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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 1 @ 10:25 AM ET
Wait...What?
- IvanBrovorov


Sanheim may be an upgrade over those guys
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 1 @ 10:25 AM ET
Pierre LeBrun‏Verified account @Real_ESPNLeBrun now7 seconds ago

Hearing that the Flyers are close to re-signing goalie Michal Neuvirth (pending UFA July 1)
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Mar 1 @ 10:26 AM ET
I'm not really concerned with sending MacDonald or Manning down to LHV
- PhillySportsGuy



Would it be a tragedy of Hindenburgian proportions if Manning/MacDonald never played another game for the Flyers?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 1 @ 10:26 AM ET
when is the last time a trade like that has happened though? I am trying to think...
- YuenglingJagr


A top 6 forward with term left? Kessel?
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Mar 1 @ 10:26 AM ET
Long time Flyer fan and I think Bill needs to at least mention how boring this team is to watch - no identity, too small, too slow and painful to watch.
- Dktj53


Too Small? 0.6" shorter and 1lb lighter than your defending Stanley Cup Champions. Yes I know they are 30th in avg height and 28th in weight but size isn't always the answer. Everyone was screaming for 5'10" 175lbs Travis Konecny to make this team now we got to get bigger??? Can we make up our freaking minds?
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Mar 1 @ 10:26 AM ET
The Positive Patties are hanging out in the Hawks, Penguins, Caps, Jackets, and Wild threads.
- PLindbergh31


Then pick one of those franchises to root for. Since you feel this one is so "inept".
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 1 @ 10:26 AM ET
Pierre LeBrun‏Verified account @Real_ESPNLeBrun now7 seconds ago

Hearing that the Flyers are close to re-signing goalie Michal Neuvirth (pending UFA July 1)

- PLindbergh31


according to Ek's people that would be a really dumb thing to do
pinkfloydfreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.13.2012

Mar 1 @ 10:26 AM ET
lol what?
- YuenglingJagr


Feanor's reasoning for not signing Del Zotto that i replied to was that 5 defenseman were already under contract next season. I don't think its necessary to consider Manning one of those 5. He's going to be 27 next season making 1 mil, and other than his hot start this season he generally looks like a borderline NHL player. He can easily be on the phantoms next year.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 1 @ 10:26 AM ET
A top 6 forward with term left? Kessel?
- PhillySportsGuy

I mean on deadline day. He was a july 1st trade
JW98FlyerFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2013

Mar 1 @ 10:27 AM ET
Lebrun reporting Flyers close to resigning Neuvirth...probably a move to cover the Exp draft rules...
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Mar 1 @ 10:27 AM ET
Very, especially when that pick goes from a 4 to a 1 if they win the Cup and we all know Hansen won't be the key to that happening.

As much as being out of the playoffs and a possible seller stinks, the saving grace is that it's almost always a seller's market. Vancouver has made 2 really nice moves so far IMO.

- five4fighting10



I think Vancouver has done well on both moves.

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 1 @ 10:27 AM ET
I would love to see all of the UFA skaters go and one of our UFA goalies get traded as well (preferably Neuvirth). However, the fact that Hextall hasnt done anything yet might mean that either he can't get value, his potential trade partners already filled their perceived needs, or he's just not willing to give up on this season yet.

I think you're right about Schenn and Simmonds. The "big" sort of trade, involving the likes of a Schenn or Simmonds would be more likely to happen right before the Draft.

- Doc_Sarcasm


I think Streit gets moved. Maybe Mason too. That's probably it though.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 1 @ 10:28 AM ET
according to Ek's people that would be a really dumb thing to do
- Scoob


He hasn't played well. I wouldn't do it.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 1 @ 10:28 AM ET
I'm not really concerned with sending MacDonald or Manning down to LHV
- PhillySportsGuy


I don't think Hextall will do that. They are viewed as everyday defensemen by Flyers management. More so than MDZ.
IvanBrovorov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.07.2017

Mar 1 @ 10:28 AM ET
we dont know if a guy who has never played in the NHL is an upgrade over guys who play in the NHL
- YuenglingJagr



Agree. Just messing around, thought the sentence itself was tough to decipher.
WhirlingDervish
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "Make The Flyers Great Again", PA
Joined: 02.01.2016

Mar 1 @ 10:29 AM ET
There isn't anyone in this draft that is on the level of Kane, Crosby, McDavid, Matthews, Laine Etc. So tanking this year is a crap shoot.

I'm not sure tanking next season is a good idea either as there will be hell to pay, from the owners, if they miss the playoffs two years in a row.

Dump the UFA's for picks that you hope you find a diamond in the rough. Call up some kids and see what they offer. Next year hopefully Lindbolm starts with the Flyers and maybe some more youth joins the current core.

- dragonoffrost

Hate to brake it to you, but it's only 50/50 he even leaves Sweden next year.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 1 @ 10:29 AM ET
Feanor's reasoning for not signing Del Zotto that i replied to was that 5 defenseman were already under contract next season. I don't think its necessary to consider Manning one of those 5. He's going to be 27 next season making 1 mil, and other than his hot start this season he generally looks like a borderline NHL player. He can easily be on the phantoms next year.
- pinkfloydfreak


I don't think it will be easy to replace the coach and the GM.
JW98FlyerFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2013

Mar 1 @ 10:29 AM ET
Any thoughts that the Flyers might try to get picks in the 18 draft vice the 17 draft with the UFAs? they already have 10 this year, and unless they can bundle some seconds to move into the first for a guy they really want, they might get more value out of 2018 picks...
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 1 @ 10:29 AM ET
Feanor's reasoning for not signing Del Zotto that i replied to was that 5 defenseman were already under contract next season. I don't think its necessary to consider Manning one of those 5. He's going to be 27 next season making 1 mil, and other than his hot start this season he generally looks like a borderline NHL player. He can easily be on the phantoms next year.
- pinkfloydfreak

he is an ideal 6/7/8 defenseman and one that satisfies rules for expansion draft (not that AMac is getting traded or anything). It won't hurt the team much, but there's very little reason to waive him
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 1 @ 10:29 AM ET
Hate to brake it to you, but it's only 50/50 he even leaves Sweden next year.
- WhirlingDervish


It's much higher than that. An NHL ELC will be much more lucrative than staying in Sweden.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 1 @ 10:29 AM ET
Would it be a tragedy of Hindenburgian proportions if Manning/MacDonald never played another game for the Flyers?
- Doc_Sarcasm


I don't want to get into a spat with you know who about those guys, but they certainly wouldn't stand in my way if I felt the younger guys were ready to start logging NHL minutes.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Mar 1 @ 10:30 AM ET
Too Small? 0.6" shorter and 1lb lighter than your defending Stanley Cup Champions. Yes I know they are 30th in avg height and 28th in weight but size isn't always the answer. Everyone was screaming for 5'10" 175lbs Travis Konecny to make this team now we got to get bigger??? Can we make up our freaking minds?
- dragonoffrost



I would like a little more size. But not at the expense of skill. It's kind of why I like a guy like Dwight king in FA.

But the first thing this team needs is more skill added to the roster.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 1 @ 10:30 AM ET
Any thoughts that the Flyers might try to get picks in the 18 draft vice the 17 draft with the UFAs? they already have 10 this year, and unless they can bundle some seconds to move into the first for a guy they really want, they might get more value out of 2018 picks...
- JW98FlyerFan

I have already stated I think they could target 2018 picks. I think more than likely it will just be a conditional pick based on how far they get in the playoffs, but any multi-pick deals I would expect to have one in a future draft
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 1 @ 10:31 AM ET
Would it be a tragedy of Hindenburgian proportions if Manning/MacDonald never played another game for the Flyers?
- Doc_Sarcasm

It wouldn't even be a tragedy of hangnail proportions
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 1 @ 10:31 AM ET
I have already stated I think they could target 2018 picks. I think more than likely it will just be a conditional pick based on how far they get in the playoffs, but any multi-pick deals I would expect to have one in a future draft
- YuenglingJagr


If they get too many 2017 picks they can always trade up.
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