I mean really guys. Why bother getting a few late round picks and needing to call up AHL D? If nothing was out there, nothing was out there. You know Tim loves trades. You know he tried.

Little irked as well. But whatever.
- TheSabresTaco

You just said picks were out there.

Or, again, nobody was making deals today. Look at the guys left on the board that are UFA that could've gone cheap. Vanek only went for a conditional 3rd and a warm body and he has 38 points. Iginla for a 4th and Colorado retains 50%. You're telling me that 5th or 6th we would've gotten for our UFAs would've been worth something?
- Wetbandit1

Im willing to bet they could have gotten something in the weeks leading up to the deadline.

I kinda get keeping Kulikov. But Franson?
- Losman

Franson, to me, is like Tallinder back in 2013-2014. They couldn't give him away.

That's a bit unfair. I have to assume something along those lines was offered if you look at the other d-men moved.
- ImThatGuy

oh

Let them all walk for free

- profit

You just said picks were out there.
- sabresfan69

..if..

The circular logic around here is entertaining
- stashu

I swear it's all some sort of test. If I get through without losing my mind I get something good.

4th rd picks. are better than nothing.
- ImThatGuy

Not really. If you couldnt acquire a 2nd, there was no point in moving anyone.

Or, again, nobody was making deals today. Look at the guys left on the board that are UFA that could've gone cheap. Vanek only went for a conditional 3rd and a warm body and he has 38 points. Iginla for a 4th and Colorado retains 50%. You're telling me that 5th or 6th we would've gotten for our UFAs would've been worth something?
- Wetbandit1

Colorado could LITERALLY get nothing for sending Iginla away AND paying half his remaining salary too.

Damn you TM, why couldn't you make genius moves like this!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Or, again, nobody was making deals today. Look at the guys left on the board that are UFA that could've gone cheap. Vanek only went for a conditional 3rd and a warm body and he has 38 points. Iginla for a 4th and Colorado retains 50%. You're telling me that 5th or 6th we would've gotten for our UFAs would've been worth something?
- Wetbandit1

All I know is that we are a really bad team, and it's the GM's job to make them better.

Extra picks down the line would help replenish the system.

I find it odd that he couldn't muster up a 3rd rounder in 2018 for one of them.

This team is a joke

oh
- TheSabresTaco

Yes, Look at all of the other D-men moved. The lowest picks given up was a 4th.

Im willing to bet they could have gotten something in the weeks leading up to the deadline.
- Sabresfan-365

Maybe, maybe not. But again I point to the lack of deals overall. And outside of Hanzal, they were all "that's all he got?".

not trading them to being with, is the joke. I wasnt expecting anything big. The expectation as a seller is you sell. he couldn't even manage that. Part of it i imagine may be him waiting too long to believe he was a seller.
- Sabresfan-365

You're so right. This team would be so much further ahead with additional 3rd or 4th round picks for Kuli or Franson. Can you enlighten us about how great you thought that one shot block Risto had in that one game the other night was? He's a real difference maker.

Nobody wants the players we don't want?!?!

Not really. If you could put acquire a 2nd, there was no point in moving anyone.
- Mentalorgasm5

no the absolutely are. 4th rd picks are better than leaving for nothing.

Maybe, maybe not. But again I point to the lack of deals overall. And outside of Hanzal, they were all "that's all he got?".
- Wetbandit1

admittedly also worried they'll actually extend him

Or, again, nobody was making deals today. Look at the guys left on the board that are UFA that could've gone cheap. Vanek only went for a conditional 3rd and a warm body and he has 38 points. Iginla for a 4th and Colorado retains 50%. You're telling me that 5th or 6th we would've gotten for our UFAs would've been worth something?
- Wetbandit1

Yes, worth selling. Ghule could finish out the season in the NHL, get a little experience, bring one more up from Amerks. Our season is done. Franson and Kulikov will not be resigned by the Sabres so again YES a 5th or 6th is worth it.

Found out players that were asked about:

Franson
Kulikov
Reinhart
McCabe
Girgensons
Foligno
Bailey

And a not so very smart GM calling about Risto.

I said 50 times he's not moving Kane but got a couple calls but nothing close to moving him.
- SABRES 89

No biggie.... Just more work to do in the off season... he's gotta find a way to make this defense better, without giving up the farm.

I'll say it again...it is a possibility that GMTM is ok holding onto these guys because he can still make trades with Vegas at some point.......just playing devil's (not NJ) advocate

I'll say it again...it is a possibility that GMTM is ok holding onto these guys because he can still make trades with Vegas at some point.......just playing devil's (not NJ) advocate
- feetontheair22

GMTM cannot trade Kulikov or Franson to Vegas.

TM didn't want to give up anyone because he still feels his team has a chance of making the playoffs.

I'll say it again...it is a possibility that GMTM is ok holding onto these guys because he can still make trades with Vegas at some point.......just playing devil's (not NJ) advocate
- feetontheair22

Whats he going to trade? Exclusive negotiation rights?

All I know is that we are a really bad team, and it's the GM's job to make them better.

Extra picks down the line would help replenish the system.

I find it odd that he couldn't muster up a 3rd rounder in 2018 for one of them.
- sbroads24

All Vanek got was a 3rd. And he actually matters to a team. Kulikov or Franson are bottom pairing/depth guys. There are no 3rd rounders for Mike Weber this year. There just aren't.

Murray could very well have made the team better by not trading Kane for not fair value(top pair D).

And again, I doubt a 4th or 5th or 6th round pick is going to help this team at all, let alone in the next 5 years.

Yes, Look at all of the other D-men moved. The lowest picks given up was a 4th.
- ImThatGuy

The statement made to the team>>>>>>> the 0.00001% chance a 4th rounder develops into anything.

If a 2nd wasn't on the table, no sense in moving anyone.