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Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Mar 1 @ 4:05 PM ET
Think about what it's like for us old guys:

Thomas Vanek: Offer sheet, declined 4 first round picks for him, Career earnings $70Million, gets a third rounder

Drew Stafford - once a #13 overall first round pick, making $4Mill a year, traded for a CONDITIONAL 6th round pick.

Jesus christ ... I'm going to walk off into the woods
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Mar 1 @ 4:06 PM ET
Yes you track down those 0.00001 percent of people, whereas you can as the millions who waste their money daily on it.

Six points out, we acquire 3 roster players that will improve our roster for garbage picks. The odds of us making the playoffs increase far greater than our odds of hitting on that late round pick.

But darn, we miss out on Greg Sutch and Cedrick Henley. DRATS!!!!!

- Mentalorgasm5


So you wanted to add rentals to this team?



Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Mar 1 @ 4:06 PM ET

- ImThatGuy

You must like it up there, because apparently you know a lot more than our current GM.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Mar 1 @ 4:07 PM ET
So you wanted to add rentals to this team?




- ImThatGuy

You wanted to add a 5th round pick to the team.


lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Mar 1 @ 4:07 PM ET
I cant get 550 to stream. Has TM been on yet post deadline?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Mar 1 @ 4:07 PM ET
You must like it up there, because apparently you know a lot more than our current GM.
- Mentalorgasm5


I never said I was smarter than the general population sir, that was you.

Getting picks for players that are going to walk for free is always the better option when you are going to miss the playoffs.

See Trade deadline 2017 other than buffalo Sabres.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Mar 1 @ 4:07 PM ET
Rattled
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Mar 1 @ 4:08 PM ET
I cant get 550 to stream. Has TM been on yet post deadline?
- lulags


Yes, it will be up in the on demand section soon I'm sure. Worth a listen.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Mar 1 @ 4:08 PM ET
You wanted to add a 5th round pick to the team.



- Mentalorgasm5


4th If you are going to try and laugh at lease get it right.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Mar 1 @ 4:09 PM ET
He's at the age where it's "is he having an off year because he's only playing on the 3rd line?" or is it "he's 32 and the wheels are starting to fall off." Teams are willing to roll the dice for a year for a player who up until this year has been an effective player. ::cough:: Matt Moulson 5 years.
- Wetbandit1


That's fair. Sorry if I gave the impression I think he's worthless. I get why he has some value, just don't think he's a real solid player going for peanuts either. With the age and cap working against him, I'm not really surprised about the return. Maybe I'm undervaluing his previous years though as well.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Mar 1 @ 4:09 PM ET
Rattled
- jochfr

im so rattled Im in tears and i went and blew my entire savings account on lottery tickets.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Mar 1 @ 4:09 PM ET
4th If you are going to try and laugh at lease get it right.
- ImThatGuy

When you want to use statistical anomalies to prove your point as the a good move, I will give you a hint, its not good idea.
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

Mar 1 @ 4:10 PM ET
This year. If they don't it deducts from next year's cap.
- Wetbandit1



Thank you sir
yen6d1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: maxim Afinogenov, NY
Joined: 02.21.2011

Mar 1 @ 4:10 PM ET
So, now it's Myers, Lemieux, Armia, Roslovic, 6th for Kane, Kransdorf, Bogo. That's how it works right?
- Wetbandit1

Not a shot at you but we needed a top 6 winger and they received some decent bottom 6 help and a strong prospect for a player that wanted out fair for all imo
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Mar 1 @ 4:11 PM ET
I never said I was smarter than the general population sir, that was you.

Getting picks for players that are going to walk for free is always the better option when you are going to miss the playoffs.

See Trade deadline 2017 other than buffalo Sabres.

- ImThatGuy

Yes me saying investing in lottery tickets is an unintelligent move says this.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Mar 1 @ 4:11 PM ET
When you want to use statistical anomalies to prove your point as the a good move, I will give you a hint, its not good idea.
- Mentalorgasm5


Ask any GM, if they are going to miss the playoffs and have pending UFA's they are going to move them for Draft picks.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Mar 1 @ 4:12 PM ET
Rob Ray on no trades:

"Does that really surprise you?" "In this day and age those picks never work out." "Sometimes its just easier to sit tight and ride it out."
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 1 @ 4:12 PM ET
Does that not mean a good point producer with term should get a "good" return?

So a good player, who is "guaranteed" to play for your team next year, only got that poop return...yet 2 horrible d-men on the worst team evarrr not getting traded is a failure.

Got it.

- stashu

Expansion draft..... that makes this trade different
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Mar 1 @ 4:12 PM ET
Thank you sir
- Matthews_Auston


No problem.

Edit: If they don't have the room this year it deducts from next year's. Sorry should've been clearer.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Mar 1 @ 4:12 PM ET
Rob Ray on no trades:

"Does that really surprise you?" "In this day and age those picks never work out."

- Der Kaiser

Rob Ray needs to look at recent drafts then.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Mar 1 @ 4:13 PM ET
Salary and cap room have to come into play here, too. You just can't say, "draft picks are being offered" and assume that's that. Murray is a wheeler and a dealer, I think we all know that, regardless of your views of how he's done with those trades. If there was a deal to be made, he would have made it.

Maybe team A WAS offering draft pick B for one of our ufa D, but insisted that we take back player X in the deal. Had we done that, Murray would have been lynched.

Either way, it's all speculation for 99% of us. The other 1% on here, the "experts", can clearly do Murray's job better than him, so b!tch away, GM's.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Mar 1 @ 4:13 PM ET
Rob Ray needs to look at recent drafts then.
- ImThatGuy


I'm not your enemy.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Mar 1 @ 4:14 PM ET
Not a shot at you but we needed a top 6 winger and they received some decent bottom 6 help and a strong prospect for a player that wanted out fair for all imo
- yen6d1


I was just making a joke because Broads said that about if Kane got traded.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 1 @ 4:14 PM ET
Think about what it's like for us old guys:

Thomas Vanek: Offer sheet, declined 4 first round picks for him, Career earnings $70Million, gets a third rounder

Drew Stafford - once a #13 overall first round pick, making $4Mill a year, traded for a CONDITIONAL 6th round pick.

Jesus christ ... I'm going to walk off into the woods

- Der Kaiser

I'll give you a 5th rounder if you do
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Mar 1 @ 4:15 PM ET
I'll give you a 5th rounder if you do
- sbroads24


When is the deadline? I'm fielding calls
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