The American Dream is a farce for anyone not affluent in the first place. They have the option to invest in better alternatives and they don't.
These teams in Buffalo now are cursed by dirty money. - BeadyEyedDouche
Pegula didn't come from wealth. The median family income in the town he grew up in was $35,351. He went to a Canisuis type high school and then Penn State. It doesn't seem like he was poor by any means, and there are always scholarships to those private schools and then colleges, but he wasn't rich either.
This is a headline that doesn't summarize what the article actually says.
This has been going on for a while now, and a little blurb this size is just the most recent shot in a long standing feud.
The City of Rochester, which owns the Blue Cross Arena, has a $10Million grant to upgrade the facility. PSE is pushing to have that $10Million to spent as it wants, rather than to upgrade some of the features that aren't related to hockey.
Seeing as the grant was awarded like 18 months ago and the Amerks are still in Rochester, I wouldn't put too much weight into the thing. - Der Kaiser
They've been going back and forth for years and years right? This isn't new at all. It's just posturing.
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Not to get off the subject at hand, but what are the greener methods that could be implemented in such a large scale and cost effective that it would make natural gas production obsolete? - sskkoo1
Wind, solar, steam, geothermal. All industries that were ignored because of the "cost" of harnessing their effects. Yet the reason they ended up so expensive, was because of interests in exploiting Middle-Eastern and African countries for their oil to begin with. They were less technologically advanced and manipulated into signing trade deals they had no idea of the consequences of and just how much they were getting screwed over on.
And this is precisely because of rich corporations trying to make the most money and the individuals within the petroleum and natural gas industries that could invest in the rigs and drill sites while at the same tie exploiting over-worked and under-paid employees locally.
Diamond mines, for example. You know why diamonds are so expensive? It's not because they're rare. They're actually incredibly abundant. It's because, much like the wine industry, the big companies burn their excess product to create an artificial scarcity to drive up prices.
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Mar 1 @ 9:55 PM ET
They've been going back and forth for years and years right? This isn't new at all. It's just posturing. - Wetbandit1
Pegula just sunk a ton of dough into improving the place and then he got pissed (fairly so, in my view) when the City got that big grant and hasn't committed to returning the favor.
But theyre not going anywhere. No place fits like ROC. The trend league wide is to keep the farm team close so players can move back and forth quickly. Erie is already taken. Hamilton is already taken. Toronto is already taken. Any other town would cost more in operational costs to subsidize the team than is at stake in the improvements.
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Mar 1 @ 9:57 PM ET
Wind, solar, steam, geothermal. All industries that were ignored because of the "cost" of harnessing their effects. Yet the reason they ended up so expensive, was because of interests in exploiting Middle-Eastern and African countries for their oil to begin with. They were less technologically advanced and manipulated into signing trade deals they had no idea of the consequences of and just how much they were getting screwed over on.
And this is precisely because of rich corporations trying to make the most money and the individuals within the petroleum and natural gas industries that could invest in the rigs and drill sites while at the same tie exploiting over-worked and under-paid employees locally.
Diamond mines, for example. You know why diamonds are so expensive? It's not because they're rare. They're actually incredibly abundant. It's because, much like the wine industry, the big companies burn their excess product to create an artificial scarcity to drive up prices. - BeadyEyedDouche
I would like to buy one of these plentiful burning diamonds. Can you tell me where I might find one?
This is a headline that doesn't summarize what the article actually says.
This has been going on for a while now, and a little blurb this size is just the most recent shot in a long standing feud.
The City of Rochester, which owns the Blue Cross Arena, has a $10Million grant to upgrade the facility. PSE is pushing to have that $10Million to spent as it wants, rather than to upgrade some of the features that aren't related to hockey.
Seeing as the grant was awarded like 18 months ago and the Amerks are still in Rochester, I wouldn't put too much weight into the thing. - Der Kaiser
My fault. Tried with the "fair warning", they have me working late so hadn't gotten around to it yet.
Again, I don't eat everything that's fed to me. - BeadyEyedDouche
Isn't there a difference between not eating everything that's fed to you and believing your food has a mythical curse attached to it due to the farmer having cultivated it with ill tempered means?
Pegula just sunk a ton of dough into improving the place and then he got pissed (fairly so, in my view) when the City got that big grant and hasn't committed to returning the favor.
But theyre not going anywhere. No place fits like ROC. The trend league wide is to keep the farm team close so players can move back and forth quickly. Erie is already taken. Hamilton is already taken. Toronto is already taken. Any other town would cost more in operational costs to subsidize the team than is at stake in the improvements. - Der Kaiser
I just meant that there's been poop for years about the team not being happy and they've threatened to move, cut jobs, rehired. All that happy horsepoop.
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Mar 1 @ 10:00 PM ET
Pegula didn't come from wealth. The median family income in the town he grew up in was $35,351. He went to a Canisuis type high school and then Penn State. It doesn't seem like he was poor by any means, and there are always scholarships to those private schools and then colleges, but he wasn't rich either. - Wetbandit1
Um. He went to a private Catholic School. That costs money. He certainly was NOT working class.
$35,000 median income when he was a teenager and young adult is like $100,000+ these days adjusted to inflation. Comfortably middle-class, in other words.
Penn State's tuition is $18,000. Add in room and board, student fees and meal plans and you're pushing $40,000. It's not exactly a poor-person's college.
Wind, solar, steam, geothermal. All industries that were ignored because of the "cost" of harnessing their effects. Yet the reason they ended up so expensive, was because of interests in exploiting Middle-Eastern and African countries for their oil to begin with. They were less technologically advanced and manipulated into signing trade deals they had no idea of the consequences of and just how much they were getting screwed over on.
And this is precisely because of rich corporations trying to make the most money and the individuals within the petroleum and natural gas industries that could invest in the rigs and drill sites while at the same tie exploiting over-worked and under-paid employees locally.
Diamond mines, for example. You know why diamonds are so expensive? It's not because they're rare. They're actually incredibly abundant. It's because, much like the wine industry, the big companies burn their excess product to create an artificial scarcity to drive up prices. - BeadyEyedDouche
They don't burn them, they just horde them, and then release them in a trickle. And one company, DeBeers owns 95% of the mines in the world.
Um. He went to a private Catholic School. That costs money. He certainly was NOT working class.
$35,000 median income when he was a teenager and young adult is like $100,000+ these days adjusted to inflation. Comfortably middle-class, in other words.
Penn State's tuition is $18,000. Add in room and board, student fees and meal plans and you're pushing $40,000. It's not exactly a poor-person's college. - BeadyEyedDouche
I didn't say he was working class. I just said the town he grew up in, today, has a median family income of $35K. And yeah, he went to a Canisuis type high school. But how do we know he didn't get a scholarship? Same with Penn State, which isn't exactly Yale either.
It's a lot different than someone like George W Bush who was born with a silver spoon up his ass and went to the best schools(a $50K high school) and then Yale which is about $65K. All paid for, and pushed through, by daddy.
That's all I was saying. He was far from affluent to begin with.
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Mar 1 @ 10:15 PM ET
Isn't there a difference between not eating everything that's fed to you and believing your food has a mythical curse attached to it due to the farmer having cultivated it with ill tempered means? - kingcong39
You tell me this meat tastes better than something free-range, raised on a farm. Right.
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They don't burn them, they just horde them, and then release them in a trickle. And one company, DeBeers owns 95% of the mines in the world. - Wetbandit1
