Detroit is over rated as far as drafting goes. Theyre good, but not the wizrds people male them out to be.
- Larsson_fan

Still, might not hurt to send a bunch of scouts to Sweden and Russia

So is Calgary playing the Caps, Pens or Jackets in the final?

Tough decision, but I am leaning towards the Jackets. I am sure Bettman would be happy about that.

36 points in 176 games is... very, very bad.
- BINGO!

This is the correct answer.

So is Calgary playing the Caps, Pens or Jackets in the final?

Tough decision, but I am leaning towards the Jackets. I am sure Bettman would be happy about that.
- FLflames34

Blue Jackets all the way!

Still, might not hurt to send a bunch of scouts to Sweden and Russia
- Saskabush

For example, how are we paying more for Lazar than what it took to get Yakupov? a Former 1st overall that might have just needed a change of scenery?

you think Lazar has actually shown anything more promising that Yak did?

Im not saying i have any desire to have Yaks, but I think Lazar is in the same boat, maybe even worse lol

For example, how are we paying more for Lazar than what it took to get Yakupov? a Former 1st overall that might have just needed a change of scenery?

you think Lazar has actually shown anything more promising that Yak did?

Im not saying i have any desire to have Yaks, but I think Lazar is in the same boat, maybe even worse lol
- cpltanto

I have no problem with the cost. None. I just think it reinforces how bad the Brouwer signing was, and also, where do you put him if you want to grab lightning in a bottle?

Truculence for truculence sake. Throw him on the 4th I guess. Maybe he will outplay Brouwer and move up

I only like this if it lights a fire in TB's a ss

Thanks Byron!

Give er a read. http://ottawacitizen.com/...nute-deal-of-curtis-lazar

For example, how are we paying more for Lazar than what it took to get Yakupov? a Former 1st overall that might have just needed a change of scenery?

you think Lazar has actually shown anything more promising that Yak did?

Im not saying i have any desire to have Yaks, but I think Lazar is in the same boat, maybe even worse lol
- cpltanto

HEs isnt as talented as Yak...but Yak has unprecedented levels of retardated Hockey Sense yet unproven to exist between Lazars ears...if that makes any sense?

Detroit is over rated as far as drafting goes. Theyre good, but not the wizrds people male them out to be.
- Larsson_fan

How are the Oilers on drafting? 1st round picks and lotteries aside?

How are the Oilers on drafting? 1st round picks and lotteries aside?
- Clyde334

Aside? Well we have had Pitlick, Pakarainen, Khaira, Slepyschev, Simpson Osterle , Davidson and Lander all playing in the NHL this year, so not too bad..pretty average.

Flames are better, no doubt, or at least they were when Feaster was there...but let me ask you this: if the Flames are such geniuses for picking Johnny Hockey in the 4th round whats the excuse for Baertschi , Granlund ( Canucks players) and that bust Wotherspoon taken before him?

I have no problem with the cost. None. I just think it reinforces how bad the Brouwer signing was, and also, where do you put him if you want to grab lightning in a bottle?

Truculence for truculence sake. Throw him on the 4th I guess. Maybe he will outplay Brouwer and move up

I only like this if it lights a fire in TB's a ss
- FLflames34

Lazar is a low risk! Yeah you might give up a gem in the second round. But take a chance. The flames seem to have a plethora of of good forwards in the minors. So why not see what happens. And plus lazar could potentially play like he did in jr hockey. Or we package I'm in another trade. maybe tkachuk will wear off on him.

Lazar is a low risk! Yeah you might give up a gem in the second round. But take a chance. The flames seem to have a plethora of of good forwards in the minors. So why not see what happens. And plus lazar could potentially play like he did in jr hockey. Or we package I'm in another trade. maybe tkachuk will wear off on him.
- pzoxic

Um, I'm not sure you know what plethora means.

Um, I'm not sure you know what plethora means.
- Hunkulese

I would think volume wise its more than a few (3) and of of varrying skill sets?

Aside? Well we have had Pitlick, Pakarainen, Khaira, Slepyschev, Simpson Osterle , Davidson and Lander all playing in the NHL this year, so not too bad..pretty average.

Flames are better, no doubt, or at least they were when Feaster was there...but let me ask you this: if the Flames are such geniuses for picking Johnny Hockey in the 4th round whats the excuse for Baertschi , Granlund ( Canucks players) and that bust Wotherspoon taken before him?
- Larsson_fan

It's not so much the GM yeah he make the final disision! ! But he has to listen to his scouts, if you have a good scouting staff. (Detroit Chicago). Your team will allways be there every year. Baetschi he showed really good in jr. I never been a fan of him. Grandlund good player plus younger brother of a star. it's in the blood lines. But can't win them all. Every team has bad ones

Um, I'm not sure you know what plethora means.
- Hunkulese

Haha did you look it up! That a boy you learned a new word tonight. I thought dorks knew all the big boy words

Haha did you look it up! That a boy you learned a new word tonight. I thought dorks knew all the big boy words
- pzoxic

Um, I don't think you know what plethora means.

Exactly, its not scrubs in the 1st 2 rounds..There is talent there, and some real gems. It's not a wasteland that everyone claims it to be....it seems like the only people who are calling it a bad draft are fans who have heard it from other fans.

They might not be sexy names, but there are a lot of good players available, not cast offs.

Jaret Anderson-Dolan is slated to be a mid 2nd round 2nd, he could be a steal. Josh Brook, Alexander Sasha Chmelevski, Isaac Ratcliffe. There are some real gems in that projected 2nd round.
- DDM-Coga

Holy poop, seriously, enough of theirs poop. CGY just drafted 9 players last summer....9! The year before we got Hamilton and 2 stud D prospects. We could afford to use 1 single 2nd round pick on a guy that has shown skill and is still very young. He's a right shot which we lack on our system, has speed and has displayed skill in the past. Give the kid a chance. Good draft, poor draft...who cares anymore. It was just a 2nd round pick for a guy that has shown actual NHL talent at this level before. Give him a shot and quit griping about the strength or lack ther-of of this draft.

I really have no problem with giving up a 2nd for a project like Lazar. We drafted 9 players last year and still have a ton of young prospects in our system. We can afford to give up a 2nd round pick. Lazar is a potentially long term solution for one of Calgary's biggest gaps in terms of depth, and he fits in to our core age-wise. A change of scenery can often do wonders for kids like him.

Sure, this is a gamble, but it's pretty low risk and could pay off huge. Not to mention if Lazar plays well enough that it forces management to potect him than the gamble has already paid off. If he doesn't, I don't see any reason why we can't leave him exposed since Vegas is going to have better players to choose from. The argument that we have to protect him is moot if he doesn't play well enough this year for Vegas to take him anyway.

Only time will tell if this gamble pays off or not, but it's a gamble I'm willing to make.

I really have no problem with giving up a 2nd for a project like Lazar. We drafted 9 players last year and still have a ton of young prospects in our system. We can afford to give up a 2nd round pick. Lazar is a potentially long term solution for one of Calgary's biggest gaps in terms of depth, and he fits in to our core age-wise. A change of scenery can often do wonders for kids like him.

Sure, this is a gamble, but it's pretty low risk and could pay off huge. Not to mention if Lazar plays well enough that it forces management to potect him than the gamble has already paid off. If he doesn't, I don't see any reason why we can't leave him exposed since Vegas is going to have better players to choose from. The argument that we have to protect him is moot if he doesn't play well enough this year for Vegas to take him anyway.

Only time will tell if this gamble pays off or not, but it's a gamble I'm willing to make.
- Helios

Lazar is a calculated risk. One REAL benefit is that due to his stats, he has no choice but to sign a very reasonable "show me" contract. Probably even a 2-way deal. I'm just shocked that we have 5 First round picks from the 2013 draft between the Flames and Heat. Only time will tell, but I'll sit back and watch it come along.

I really have no problem with giving up a 2nd for a project like Lazar. We drafted 9 players last year and still have a ton of young prospects in our system. We can afford to give up a 2nd round pick. Lazar is a potentially long term solution for one of Calgary's biggest gaps in terms of depth, and he fits in to our core age-wise. A change of scenery can often do wonders for kids like him.

Sure, this is a gamble, but it's pretty low risk and could pay off huge. Not to mention if Lazar plays well enough that it forces management to potect him than the gamble has already paid off. If he doesn't, I don't see any reason why we can't leave him exposed since Vegas is going to have better players to choose from. The argument that we have to protect him is moot if he doesn't play well enough this year for Vegas to take him anyway.

Only time will tell if this gamble pays off or not, but it's a gamble I'm willing to make.
- Helios

it seemed like a strange and unnecessary gamble, I think that was some peoples point. there are basically 2 scenarios that can play out here:

1. lazar plays like poop and you wasted a 2nd rd pick on him

2. lazar plays well, isn't expansion exempt, so you have to protect him and risk losing another player that you likely didn't want to lose.

it's not a HUGE gamble, but I don't understand why the felt they needed to do it. lazar probably doesn't sniff the top 9 in Calgary (atleast not this year) and his 1st game there he's already a scratch.

it seemed like a strange and unnecessary gamble, I think that was some peoples point. there are basically 2 scenarios that can play out here:

1. lazar plays like poop and you wasted a 2nd rd pick on him

2. lazar plays well, isn't expansion exempt, so you have to protect him and risk losing another player that you likely didn't want to lose.

it's not a HUGE gamble, but I don't understand why the felt they needed to do it. lazar probably doesn't sniff the top 9 in Calgary (atleast not this year) and his 1st game there he's already a scratch.
- sensarmy_11

Why are you such an idiot?! Drinking Coga's koolaid!

Why are you such an idiot?! Drinking Coga's koolaid!
- Clyde334

wow, so discussing a trade makes me an idiot..........someone seems a little rattled that his team made a dumb trade

it seemed like a strange and unnecessary gamble, I think that was some peoples point. there are basically 2 scenarios that can play out here:

1. lazar plays like poop and you wasted a 2nd rd pick on him

2. lazar plays well, isn't expansion exempt, so you have to protect him and risk losing another player that you likely didn't want to lose.

it's not a HUGE gamble, but I don't understand why the felt they needed to do it. lazar probably doesn't sniff the top 9 in Calgary (atleast not this year) and his 1st game there he's already a scratch.
- sensarmy_11

1. We already had a 60% chance of wasting that pick anyway.

2. We are very well positioned for the expansion draft. Having to protect Lazar would not cause us to lose anyone of significance.

it seemed like a strange and unnecessary gamble, I think that was some peoples point. there are basically 2 scenarios that can play out here:

1. lazar plays like poop and you wasted a 2nd rd pick on him

2. lazar plays well, isn't expansion exempt, so you have to protect him and risk losing another player that you likely didn't want to lose.

it's not a HUGE gamble, but I don't understand why the felt they needed to do it. lazar probably doesn't sniff the top 9 in Calgary (atleast not this year) and his 1st game there he's already a scratch.
- sensarmy_11

Point 1 is legit but it's no different than using the pick and the prospect never becomes anything. At least Lazar has shown he can play at the NHL level. He's just having a bad year this year after an injury and mono, which can take a while to recover from.
Point 2 is incorrect as we'll have to lose someone and IMO we only have 7 fwds worth protecting. Hopefully Lazar becomes 1 of them. Brouwer is the bubble guy. It's either he or Lazar that gets protected.