Fun fact. Colorado is not eliminated yet.
- TheSabresTaco

#racefor8th

This is the biggest factor IMO. If it goes up 3-5MM over the next 2 years I see no issue. If it does not. big issue.
- ImThatGuy

Agreed. I have a sense it will go up but it won't be a lot. If it goes up say $2M for 17/18 and another 2-3 for 18/19 there is enough of a bump where Murray can get his business done with Eichel, Reinhart and Kane. He also has Carrier, Bailey, Fasching and Baptiste to re-sign as well.

I think Vegas takes a chance on either Bogo or Ennis if we leave both exposed. Buying out Moulson next season saves us 2.2 million on the cap next year and 1.2 the following year. 19/20 and 20/21, he's about 0.83 on the cap. I can't imagine a BO this summer unless we're really that tight to the cap with a new defender.
- TheSabresTaco

We have $24M in cap space at the current cap number for next year and have to re-sign Lehner, Girgensons, Foligno, Rodrgiuez and Larsson. If Vegas takes one of our bad contracts we'll look even better to upgrade the D.

Looking at the stats on the Sabres page. Random musings:

Okposo and Gionta are falling off their pace from earlier this year

DLo 31 gp 0-0-0 is unbelievably bad

Kulikov and Gorges point totals are almost as bad

Sam and Jack have the same stat line: 15-25-40, despite 20 games fewer for Jack

Jack needs F/O work

The stats say Carrier is bad. I haven't seen anything to tell me otherwise

Moulsons P/60 is just ahead of Gionta. Not sure who that reflects more poorly on

This. Especially when your centre is jack eichel, it wont be hard to find a guy who can replicate that level of production at less cost.
- Sabresfan-365

Oh really. We have been looking for one forever. We have one and you want to move him ?

WOW

Oh really. We have been looking for one forever. We have one and you want to move him ?

WOW
- cabin

It's not want, it might be more need.

Everyone should want Kane here in a perfect world where he's healthy and on top of his game

Oh really. We have been looking for one forever. We have one and you want to move him ?

WOW
- cabin

did i say move him for spare parts? i said move him for a position of greater importance

RFA for RFA swap.

Foligno, Larsson, Girgensons for an RFA D-man.

Make it happen GMTM

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It's not want, it might be more need.

Everyone should want Kane here in a perfect world where he's healthy and on top of his game
- sbroads24

OK . Players we can get equal production and guaranteed to play 80 games?

This. Especially when your centre is jack eichel, it wont be hard to find a guy who can replicate that level of production at less cost.
- Sabresfan-365

Except he's played just as much without Eichel this year and has still produced there. So not sure why this whole "playing with Eichel" thing keeps getting brought up.

He actually started his hot streak when he was dropped down to the 3rd line.

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- homiedclown

America
- Sabresfan-365

If not for us where else would you vacation and buy all your clothes?

Kane for Barrie.

Would you do it?
Would they do it?
- ImThatGuy

if Kane won't sign an extension, I would think about it

I would rather have a second pair d man and a pp qb in return for kane than a second rd pick (deadline trade)

RFA for RFA swap.

Foligno, Larsson, Girgensons for an RFA D-man.

Make it happen GMTM
- ImThatGuy

Would rather have someone with term, but I'd probably still make the trade. We need Defensive help more than anything on this team.

GMTM has his work cut out for him this offseason.

Except he's played just as much without Eichel this year and has still produced there. So not sure why this whole "playing with Eichel" thing keeps getting brought up.

He actually started his hot streak when he was dropped down to the 3rd line.
- HonkFortheGoose

Side note, his numbersr with Eichel and without Eichel are drastic.

His numbers with Eichel are off the charts.

Side note, his numbersr with Eichel and without Eichel are drastic.

His numbers with Eichel are off the charts.
- ImThatGuy

So are Jacks with Kane

If not for us where else would you vacation and buy all your clothes?
- Buffalo--Sabres

Europe where most of that stuff came from in the first place?

Except he's played just as much without Eichel this year and has still produced there. So not sure why this whole "playing with Eichel" thing keeps getting brought up.

He actually started his hot streak when he was dropped down to the 3rd line.
- HonkFortheGoose

Im not saying kanes production is a result of eichel. Im saying it wont be hard to find a winger who can pot that many goals because he'll play with eichel.

It's not want, it might be more need.

Everyone should want Kane here in a perfect world where he's healthy and on top of his game
- sbroads24

Last night was the first game in a while where I thought to myself: "Reinhart is really playing with confidence out there"

The kid hustled, he checked, he stickhandled, he made some beautiful passes.....this is the Reinhart we drafted!

if Kane won't sign an extension, I would think about it

I would rather have a second pair d man and a pp qb in return for kane than a second rd pick (deadline trade)
- homiedclown

That's the only way I would let him go. Impossible to replace him. Stupid to trade our leading scorer when goals for this team are at a minimum.

if Kane won't sign an extension, I would think about it

I would rather have a second pair d man and a pp qb in return for kane than a second rd pick (deadline trade)
- homiedclown

Martin Hanzel
No way in (frank) he gets us a 2nd. But I get it.

Right move is to see where the budget is at after July 1st. Figure out extensions for the pair, talk to kane's agent. If there's no way to keep him, trade him before the season. I wouldn't roll into next season without knowing he'll sign.

So are Jacks with Kane
- cabin

It's not want, it might be more need.

Everyone should want Kane here in a perfect world where he's healthy and on top of his game
- sbroads24

played a Free Entry on DFS

Started Eichel, Kane, Reinhart. Came in 12th

nothing like winning on a free entry.