Yep, Tim.
- Sabresfan-365

Nobody wanted our trash.

I think that much was pretty simple.

Nobody wanted our trash.

I think that much was pretty simple.
- Stripes77

may also be a case of murray didnt want he deemed "trash" back.

Motzko since september
- Sabresfan-365

I am Canadian so I dont care but who would take over th US JR program?

Yep, Tim.
- Sabresfan-365

I see

I highly doubt that about the Bills. The NFL is an institution and that won't change.

I'm not so sure the Sabres will take a hit either. Their season ticket base didn't really budge when the Sabres went to Portland.
- buffalofan19

The Pegulas have been pretty patient in regards to the arena situation in Rochester as well. This is at least the second season they're playing there without a lease agreement and that place does need work. It's definitely way outdated.

With the way that many other cities have lost teams over the past few years because the owners picked them up and moved them elsewhere, the city of Rochester should probably be careful.

I am Canadian so I dont care but who would take over th US JR program?
- lulags

Thats their problem, but as you can see two birds one stone

I'll get back off the wagon. Let's say we tank last 4 weeks and can Bylsma. Who's your top choice for new coach?
- lulags

I would guess Paul MacLean, Guy Boucher or possibly Kevin Dineen

I would guess Paul MacLean, Guy Boucher or possibly Kevin Dineen
- adambuffalo

im curious how you think that would happen?

im curious how you think that would happen?
- Sabresfan-365

Isn't Boucher in Ottawa? Or am I thinking of someone else?

may also be a case of murray didnt want he deemed "trash" back.
- Sabresfan-365

I would agree not taking trash back with years left on contracts...

I would agree not taking trash back with years left on contracts...
- Stripes77

perhaps, i was thinking more that he was expecting at least 4th or 5th and getting conditional 6th and 7ths ( which im of the opinion he should have taken anyways).

Isn't Boucher in Ottawa? Or am I thinking of someone else?
- HonkFortheGoose

yep, more specifically the playoff bound senators. unless he calls out Melnyk in an interview hes safe. And even then probably just hire ukranians to hack him instead

*waits to see who gets that reference*

The Pegulas have been pretty patient in regards to the arena situation in Rochester as well. This is at least the second season they're playing there without a lease agreement and that place does need work. It's definitely way outdated.

With the way that many other cities have lost teams over the past few years because the owners picked them up and moved them elsewhere, the city of Rochester should probably be careful.
- HonkFortheGoose

I don't know why the city won't just sell the pegulas the arena. It sounds like they're willing to do the work it needs. They just don't want to pay for upgrades as a tenant, which makes sense. Even if Roch loses the revenue from the arena, they'll still collect taxes and the city will get a better arena

im curious how you think that would happen?
- Sabresfan-365

It won't. I thought his contract was up, but he has one more year.

Is it too early to start drinking?
- SabreWest

wtf kind of question is this.

I don't know why the city won't just sell the pegulas the arena. It sounds like they're willing to do the work it needs. They just don't want to pay for upgrades as a tenant, which makes sense. Even if Roch loses the revenue from the arena, they'll still collect taxes and the city will get a better arena
- jcragcrumple

Unless I misunderstood Kaiser's post yesterday, it sounded like the Pegulas already put some money into the arena and are getting frustrated over a grant that's been sitting around for 18 months that the city hasn't used for further improvements.

I don't know why the city won't just sell the pegulas the arena. It sounds like they're willing to do the work it needs. They just don't want to pay for upgrades as a tenant, which makes sense. Even if Roch loses the revenue from the arena, they'll still collect taxes and the city will get a better arena
- jcragcrumple

I haven't been following the whole situation super close, just knew going into last year that they didn't have a lease anymore and that they were pushing for renovations to be done to the arena.

I believe at one point they actually threatened to move the team to the Arena here or the HarborCenter or something as well to try and get Rochester to do something and nothing ever came of it.

This may actually be the 3rd year they're playing without a lease. But if they really wanted to, they could probably work out some sort of deal where they share the same arena that the Otters play in in Erie (which is definitely in much better condition) and move the team there. Keeps them at approximately the same distance as they are in Rochester. This is by no means me saying I've read or heard anything about that scenario, but from my own standpoint, I could see how it may be a viable option.

https://youtu.be/FIMMCLXZuOQ

Unless I misunderstood Kaiser's post yesterday, it sounded like the Pegulas already put some money into the arena and are getting frustrated over a grant that's been sitting around for 18 months that the city hasn't used for further improvements.
- stashu

Overall, the City needs to do something with it. Doesn't seem like there's all that many concerts that have even been going there (or at least not as many that pique my interest these days). Probably because the condition of the arena has deteriorated quite a bit.

It's not a bad venue, just needs a bit of TLC. I can understand the Pegulas not wanting to fully foot the bill to do that themselves though, as the space does get used for plenty of other events typically.

Unless I misunderstood Kaiser's post yesterday, it sounded like the Pegulas already put some money into the arena and are getting frustrated over a grant that's been sitting around for 18 months that the city hasn't used for further improvements.
- stashu

Very close - the City has money but the arena is used as more than just a hockey barn. the fight is whether the City money will be used for hockey or non-hockey improvements.

The Pegulas put a bunch of dough in to improve it as a hockey barn (but not all the improvements they think can be made to the hockey fan experience).

The City is willing to do more improvements but has taken the position that the Pegula's money has made it a pretty good hockey barn, so the City money can be used for other improvements not necessarily related to hockey.

The pegula's think that they should either be reimbursed or that the City/landlord should make the improvements that the pegulas/tenant-issimo is demanding

I'll get back off the wagon. Let's say we tank last 4 weeks and can Bylsma. Who's your top choice for new coach?
- lulags

I wanted torts or boucher and got laughed at a few years back


my guess would be therrien or tocchet

maybe dineen

I would agree not taking trash back with years left on contracts...
- Stripes77

the sabres bring an arena full of sunshine to buffalo 41 nights a year

Very close - the City has money but the arena is used as more than just a hockey barn. the fight is whether the City money will be used for hockey or non-hockey improvements.

The Pegulas put a bunch of dough in to improve it as a hockey barn (but not all the improvements they think can be made to the hockey fan experience).

The City is willing to do more improvements but has taken the position that the Pegula's money has made it a pretty good hockey barn, so the City money can be used for other improvements not necessarily related to hockey.

The pegula's think that they should either be reimbursed or that the City/landlord should make the improvements that the pegulas/tenant-issimo is demanding
- Der Kaiser

http://www.democratandchr...0-percent-wrong/98604570/



Pretty unequivocal stuff from Brandon. Sounds like its not as big of a problem as it seemed

Overall, the City needs to do something with it. Doesn't seem like there's all that many concerts that have even been going there (or at least not as many that pique my interest these days). Probably because the condition of the arena has deteriorated quite a bit.

It's not a bad venue, just needs a bit of TLC. I can understand the Pegulas not wanting to fully foot the bill to do that themselves though, as the space does get used for plenty of other events typically.
- HonkFortheGoose

if pegula buys the arena, doesn't he get rent money for those venues?


big pissing contest down here with the jaguars

they wanted the stadium all to themselves during football season, aside from florida georgia football game


city said screw you, we pay for that stadium, deal with it

Overall, the City needs to do something with it. Doesn't seem like there's all that many concerts that have even been going there (or at least not as many that pique my interest these days). Probably because the condition of the arena has deteriorated quite a bit.

It's not a bad venue, just needs a bit of TLC. I can understand the Pegulas not wanting to fully foot the bill to do that themselves though, as the space does get used for plenty of other events typically.
- HonkFortheGoose

We don't get big concerts in Rochester anymore because the arena only holds like 10K - 12K tickets, and the Carrier Dome and KeyBank are only an hour either way. In the summer, FLPC and Darien Lake get the outside shows with the same capacities.

It's actually not a bad arena for its size - nicer than alot of other places where AHL teams play - but it isn't Pegula quality, and i get why they think they should get the same benefit of the free upgrades that the other tenants will get.