Guess Petro will have to step up his O game
- lulags

I had to.

Cost to replace him would be ? And who? There isn't a bunch out there. GM would want to do the trade, Player would want to sign if a UFA? who is out there?
- cabin

Don't get me wrong, I like the player, and the dollars don't bother me, but the years are the issue IMO. I lot can happen in 6-7 years, especially if he continues the PPYP (problems per year pace). Factor in injuries due to his style of game as he ages and shooting percentage, and the whole thing looks dicey. By year 5, you could be looking at broken down, ostracized player. 4 years, 6.5 mil i would do. If i had to guess, his agent won't talk anything under 5 years

Don't get me wrong, I like the player, and the dollars don't bother me, but the years are the issue IMO. I lot can happen in 6-7 years, especially if he continues the PPYP (problems per year pace). Factor in injuries due to his style of game as he ages and shooting percentage, and the whole thing looks dicey. By year 5, you could be looking at broken down, ostracized player. 4 years, 6.5 mil i would do. If i had to guess, his agent won't talk anything under 5 years
- jcragcrumple

He'd be 29 lets slow down on that talk. Its not like the deal would take him into his 30's.

Damn hippies....
- jochfr

They listed my former car last night.

Thought you'd be interested in seeing it.

http://www.goldsteinsubar...RX-Base-JF1GH76679G821991

Don't get me wrong, I like the player, and the dollars don't bother me, but the years are the issue IMO. I lot can happen in 6-7 years, especially if he continues the PPYP (problems per year pace). Factor in injuries due to his style of game as he ages and shooting percentage, and the whole thing looks dicey. By year 5, you could be looking at broken down, ostracized player. 4 years, 6.5 mil i would do. If i had to guess, his agent won't talk anything under 5 years
- jcragcrumple

He's right at 13% this year, with a career average of 9%.

During his hot streak he's shooting I'd guess close to 18-20%.

I don't think a guy just "gets it" one day and doubles his shooting %.

As far as a Kane extension goes with the type of style he plays if his agent brings up 8 years and anything above $6.5 per year I am trading him.

I love his game right now, I actually have all season even when he wasn't scoring he was playing balls out, going hard on every shift.

But that style is not good towards the body.

If they want 8 years $6 million per year tops is what I go.

If they want 5 or 6 I could go $7 million per assuming Reinhart signs a bridge deal.

Poach a d from a team that has too many good D (Carolina, Anaheim, Minnesota) right before expansion.

He'd be 29 lets slow down on that talk. Its not like the deal would take him into his 30's.
- ImThatGuy

Year 5 of a new deal would take him to 31-32. He's going to be 26 and his deal won't start until 2018

He'd be 29 lets slow down on that talk. Its not like the deal would take him into his 30's.
- ImThatGuy

Fair, but keep in mind, he's had a lot of injuries already, and players statistically (usually) peak by 26. You're really retroactively paying him more for his best past years. With his style of play, Kane at 30 could be Gionta at 35

Year 5 of a new deal would take him to 31-32. He's going to be 26 and his deal won't start until 2018
- sbroads24

Should have specified mid 30's.

Don't know if you guys had seen this yet. It's from Eliotte Friedman's 30 thoughts blog on Sportsnet. Enjoy ....


11. Boston added Drew Stafford right at the deadline. They were in on Radim Vrbata, and, at one point, some of the other teams in that bidding thought the Bruins would get him. Sounds like they also took a look at Dmitry Kulikov, but could not work out something with Buffalo.

12. Speaking of Buffalo, I think Nashville was one of the clubs that took a look at Evander Kane. Don’t think it went very far.

13. Sabres GM Tim Murray quickly shot down any idea that Alexander Nylander would be available. The 2016 first-rounder has struggled at AHL Rochester. Word from a couple of team execs recently scouting in Sweden was that Nylander’s disappointment reached home. But it’s way too soon to give up on him and Murray knows that.

He'd be 29 lets slow down on that talk. Its not like the deal would take him into his 30's.
- ImThatGuy

He will be 27 the season his new contract kicks in. A 5 year deal takes him to 32. That's about as long of a contract I would go for him.

Edit: Late

As far as a Kane extension goes with the type of style he plays if his agent brings up 8 years and anything above $6.5 per year I am trading him.

I love his game right now, I actually have all season even when he wasn't scoring he was playing balls out, going hard on every shift.

But that style is not good towards the body.

If they want 8 years $6 million per year tops is what I go.

If they want 5 or 6 I could go $7 million per assuming Reinhart signs a bridge deal.

Poach a d from a team that has too many good D (Carolina, Anaheim, Minnesota) right before expansion.
- Stripes77

Another reason why I wanted Murray to sell at the deadline.

He could have had 2-2's 2-3'3 2-4's plus another pick to use as bait towards guys that cant be protected.

Don't know if you guys had seen this yet. It's from Eliotte Friedman's 30 thoughts blog on Sportsnet. Enjoy ....


11. Boston added Drew Stafford right at the deadline. They were in on Radim Vrbata, and, at one point, some of the other teams in that bidding thought the Bruins would get him. Sounds like they also took a look at Dmitry Kulikov, but could not work out something with Buffalo.

12. Speaking of Buffalo, I think Nashville was one of the clubs that took a look at Evander Kane. Don’t think it went very far.

13. Sabres GM Tim Murray quickly shot down any idea that Alexander Nylander would be available. The 2016 first-rounder has struggled at AHL Rochester. Word from a couple of team execs recently scouting in Sweden was that Nylander’s disappointment reached home. But it’s way too soon to give up on him and Murray knows that.
- Matthews_Auston

I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean?

Should have specified mid 30's.
- ImThatGuy

Not that Lucic is as good, but power forwards like them start to wear and tear around 28-29.

Bobby Ryan and Corey Perry have been similar

Don't know if you guys had seen this yet. It's from Eliotte Friedman's 30 thoughts blog on Sportsnet. Enjoy ....


11. Boston added Drew Stafford right at the deadline. They were in on Radim Vrbata, and, at one point, some of the other teams in that bidding thought the Bruins would get him. Sounds like they also took a look at Dmitry Kulikov, but could not work out something with Buffalo.

12. Speaking of Buffalo, I think Nashville was one of the clubs that took a look at Evander Kane. Don’t think it went very far.

13. Sabres GM Tim Murray quickly shot down any idea that Alexander Nylander would be available. The 2016 first-rounder has struggled at AHL Rochester. Word from a couple of team execs recently scouting in Sweden was that Nylander’s disappointment reached home. But it’s way too soon to give up on him and Murray knows that.
- Matthews_Auston

I posted the teams that wanted Kulikov on deadline day, he wants out I found out.

Don't know if you guys had seen this yet. It's from Eliotte Friedman's 30 thoughts blog on Sportsnet. Enjoy ....


11. Boston added Drew Stafford right at the deadline. They were in on Radim Vrbata, and, at one point, some of the other teams in that bidding thought the Bruins would get him. Sounds like they also took a look at Dmitry Kulikov, but could not work out something with Buffalo.

12. Speaking of Buffalo, I think Nashville was one of the clubs that took a look at Evander Kane. Don’t think it went very far.

13. Sabres GM Tim Murray quickly shot down any idea that Alexander Nylander would be available. The 2016 first-rounder has struggled at AHL Rochester. Word from a couple of team execs recently scouting in Sweden was that Nylander’s disappointment reached home. But it’s way too soon to give up on him and Murray knows that.
- Matthews_Auston

When things leak you always gotta think who wants it out there.. IMO it's not buffalo and most likely and GM that wants nylander.. hopefully a nonstory

As far as a Kane extension goes with the type of style he plays if his agent brings up 8 years and anything above $6.5 per year I am trading him.

I love his game right now, I actually have all season even when he wasn't scoring he was playing balls out, going hard on every shift.

But that style is not good towards the body.

If they want 8 years $6 million per year tops is what I go.

If they want 5 or 6 I could go $7 million per assuming Reinhart signs a bridge deal.

Poach a d from a team that has too many good D (Carolina, Anaheim, Minnesota) right before expansion.
- Stripes77

That's way too favorable to the player IMO. We all like the goals, but keep in mind this guy has 11 assists this year. He's not a regular on the PK and he's not great defensively. If he wanted 8 years, I would try to sign him at current salary. I would go 7-7.25 if that cuts the years in half. You can't pay him more than O'Reilly, though

I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean?
- ImThatGuy

My take on that is that he's disappointed about how this season has gone for him and he's talked about it with people he knows in Sweden.

I posted the teams that wanted Kulikov on deadline day, he wants out I found out.
- SABRES 89

So most likely no 1 year deal lol?
Saw he said in a interview that he was a little disappointed to not get an opportunity somewhere else

When things leak you always gotta think who wants it out there.. IMO it's not buffalo and most likely and GM that wants nylander.. hopefully a nonstory
- yen6d1

The fact he says it's a couple of team execs makes me wonder. There was talk here that he wasn't thrilled with having to play in AHL but who knows how true that is.

They listed my former car last night.

Thought you'd be interested in seeing it.

http://www.goldsteinsubar...RX-Base-JF1GH76679G821991
- kingcong39

That makes me miss my Mazda 3 hatch back...

I should have kept it instead of trading it in.

[quote=SABRES 89]I posted the teams that wanted Kulikov on deadline day, he wants out I found out./quote]

He'll get his wish after the season.

P.S. Don't let the door hit you on the way out Kuli...
- mattsox

Or don't hit yourself on the door....

I posted the teams that wanted Kulikov on deadline day, he wants out I found out.
- SABRES 89

He will get his wish at the end of season.

P.S. Don't let the door hit you on the way out Kuli...

They listed my former car last night.

Thought you'd be interested in seeing it.

http://www.goldsteinsubar...RX-Base-JF1GH76679G821991
- kingcong39

Manual wagon

Or don't hit yourself on the door....
- sbroads24