What lines do you predict Adam Mascherin and Linus Nassen to be on?
- jochfr

**how many


Edit: answer is about the same as blowgo

**how many


Edit: answer is about the same as blowgo
- Sabresfan-365

All the lines

were we ever out of it?
- Sabresfan-365

With all the stupid a$$ line juggling, i would say it was a stealth tank season from game 1

I like Nyberg as well. I dont know what happened in 14 but the last two drafts have helped with that.
- Sabresfan-365

It loooks like Brycen Martin and Eric Cornel are busts and Karabacek is close to that. Olofsson could be ok and Wilman and Brown are having decent college seasons but overall it isn't good.

Then flipped Mcginn for a pick that we sent to acquire Vesey's rights, which, while it didn't pan out, was well worth it imo
- jcragcrumple

Totally agree. We could afford to roll the dice and spend a 3rd. The upside of landing Vesey far out weighed the downside of losing a 3rd

Second best TM trade

Buffalo Sabres acquire

Ryan O`Reilly
Jamie McGinn


Colorado Avalanche acquire
Nikita Zadorov
Mikhail Grigorenko
J.T. Compher
2015 2nd round pick
- lulags

I don't think any of his trades have been awful, but not too many wins in there either. When he was selling guys off in '14 & '15 he got what the market was giving. But in the end it doesn't matter if he can't do anything with those picks!

It loooks like Brycen Martin and Eric Cornel are busts and Karabacek is close to that. Olofsson could be ok and Wilman and Brown are having decent college seasons but overall it isn't good.
- mhp

He actually looked good last week when Rochester played in Buffalo. Now, it's only one game, but he has a good amount of speed to his game and was one of the most noticeable guys out there. Could still very well end up a career AHLer or he could be a late bloomer. After Wednesday, I'm going to reserve judgement for a little bit longer.

Just saw that Rick Vaive has a son playing for Rochester...

Totally agree. We could afford to roll the dice and spend a 3rd. The upside of landing Vesey far out weighed the downside of losing a 3rd
- lulags

Someone was just complaining about that trade the other day. 3rd rounders are already a bit of a gamble and Vesey was a more developed entity, so the risk/reward factor was heavily skewed in our direction. Unfortunately he chose to go elsewhere. At the end of the day, it's not really a big deal to "lose" out on that 3rd rounder. At least it was in an attempt to do something more.

TM's post deadline video
https://www.nhl.com/sabre...17/t-277437090/c-49875903

TM's post deadline video
https://www.nhl.com/sabre...17/t-277437090/c-49875903
- lulags

hes speaking on wgr today right?

hes speaking on wgr today right?
- Sabresfan-365

He's on WGR every Thursday at 5:30

He actually looked good last week when Rochester played in Buffalo. Now, it's only one game, but he has a good amount of speed to his game and was one of the most noticeable guys out there. Could still very well end up a career AHLer or he could be a late bloomer. After Wednesday, I'm going to reserve judgement for a little bit longer.
- HonkFortheGoose

Let's hope he's a late bloomer. I know he had an injury earlier in the year and went to Elmira for a bit on a conditioning assignment. But his draft year I thought he was a bit of a reach for a 2nd rd pick.

He's on WGR every Thursday at 5:30
- HonkFortheGoose

something tells me this will be more eventful than the others

Let's hope he's a late bloomer. I know he had an injury earlier in the year and went to Elmira for a bit on a conditioning assignment. But his draft year I thought he was a bit of a reach for a 2nd rd pick.
- mhp

While the draft interests me, I'm just never quite that into it. I know who the guys are that typically go in the 1st round and maybe a few of the guys that go at the top of the 2nd but by pick 40 I'm probably clueless unless someone really falls.

I'm hoping he's on the right trajectory now, but we'll have to wait and see.

Wins -

Kane trade - It got us Eichel
Kulikov trade - His inability to play defense got us 19 more games of Kulikov
Lehner trade - Neck tattoo
Vesey trade - Got us doing line combinations with Vesey/Eichel/Reinhart for 3 straight months here
O'Reilly trade - Got us the identity of the mystery driver, it also got posters to claim "Eichel needs McGinn"
Halak trade - Nuff Said

Losses

McNabb trade - I got nothing, it was just stupid

That's fair. I don't know if Murray will re-sign him or not but a healthy Kulikov would have helped.
- mhp

I said it yesterday. I would be ok with essentially adding another year onto his contract. 1 year deal at the same cap hit, maybe his celery is a bit different but 1 year at $4.33M or whatever it is. And if he's still bad walk away before you commit any money and we don't have to sign Eichel and Reinhart until after next season anyway, or their money won't kick in until the season after next anyway. Sure, it's almost $4.5M dollars on the cap, but a fair amount is coming off, we'll likely have 2 new ELCs next year, and we need defensemen anyway. You can't add 4 new defensemen and hope to be any good for at least half the season.

This is all contingent on him being healthy of course. I would rather pay him more for one season than pay him less per year for a multi year deal. Even if it's only 2 for $7M. I think the absolute best he can hope for this offseason is a Franson like deal.

Wins -

Kane trade - It got us Eichel
Kulikov trade - His inability to play defense got us 19 more games of Kulikov
Lehner trade - Neck tattoo
Vesey trade - Got us doing line combinations with Vesey/Eichel/Reinhart for 3 straight months here
O'Reilly trade - Got us the identity of the mystery driver, it also got posters to claim "Eichel needs McGinn"
Halak trade - Nuff Said

Losses

McNabb trade - I got nothing, it was just stupid
- sbroads24

He's on WGR every Thursday at 5:30
- HonkFortheGoose

Not every Thursday. It's usually one or two home games a month he goes down to 716 and talks to the guys there. At least I didn't think so, then again I don't really listen to WGR at that time unless it is a game day.

I said it yesterday. I would be ok with essentially adding another year onto his contract. 1 year deal at the same cap hit, maybe his celery is a bit different but 1 year at $4.33M or whatever it is. And if he's still bad walk away before you commit any money and we don't have to sign Eichel and Reinhart until after next season anyway, or their money won't kick in until the season after next anyway. Sure, it's almost $4.5M dollars on the cap, but a fair amount is coming off, we'll likely have 2 new ELCs next year, and we need defensemen anyway. You can't add 4 new defensemen and hope to be any good for at least half the season.

This is all contingent on him being healthy of course. I would rather pay him more for one season than pay him less per year for a multi year deal. Even if it's only 2 for $7M. I think the absolute best he can hope for this offseason is a Franson like deal.
- Wetbandit1

I think we have too many guys who play that style, time to invest in puck movers.

Tyler Ennis-Ryan O'Reilly-Kyle Okposo
Marcus Foligno-Jack Eichel-Sam Reinhart
Evander Kane-Zemgus Girgensons-Brian Gionta
Matt Moulson-Evan Rodrigues-Justin Bailey

Ennis on the top line and Kane on the 3rd. Makes perfect sense if we are going for a top 3 pick.
- lulags

Kane was producing on that line before he was put on Eichel's wing...
looks to me like they're just trying to get Ennis going
Then we might be able to trade him in the offseason?
If that's the thinking, makes sense

He actually looked good last week when Rochester played in Buffalo. Now, it's only one game, but he has a good amount of speed to his game and was one of the most noticeable guys out there. Could still very well end up a career AHLer or he could be a late bloomer. After Wednesday, I'm going to reserve judgement for a little bit longer.
- HonkFortheGoose

You're the 2nd person I've seen say he looked good when they saw him,
So maybe there's hope

I just hated that pick bc it was a reach, and we had picked a bunch of forwards recently, and even though we were light on defense we passed up 2 guys that were rated much higher than him

Can't do anything about it now though,
So I hope he does work out
But it still bugs me that he picked Karabacek & Cornel instead of McKeown & Dougherty. Made no sense to me

I forgot to look but I wonder how cheap tickets were on stubhub for tonight's game?