There's some more extended highlight videos available that show all plays, not just goals/assists, both good and bad.
- Nucker101

thanks for posting this for me. He does look great. Impressed with the amount of multi goal games, one he had 6 points, several at 5 points. Several hat tricks in 1 season. Impressive. Also he seems to score from just about everywhere

That is my Pont, another player who takes the poop and abuse and does nothing to defend himself. I want no more of the current brand of wussy hockey that we have endured for the last several years here. Mittlestadt, in my opinion, represents more of the same.
- Reubenkincade

... then it's a no for Necas, a no for Hischier... a no for Tolvanen...

I'm not worried about Mittlestadt. He's already a 200 pound kid... he'l adjust in college once he's away from the schoolies.

Yeah, I'll happily eat crow on that one as well. Neither player is going to be some core player, but Granlund has been a hell of a lot more useful so far than Shinkaruk. He's been better defensively than I thought he'd be as well.

Safe to say the age gap has been filled now though, time to stockpile picks and hope to hit a couple of homeruns.
- Nucker101

There was a lot of people calling Granlund a bust in here when the trade went down. You are just a rare case of someone admitting it rather than flip flopping on it. Kudos.

Interesting. I'm not super high on him, I feel like he's one of those guys who has inflated stats because of his size/speed combo advantage over a lot of his peers. I'd have him ranked more around the 10-15 range. Not someone I hope the Canucks end up with unless it's by acquiring another 1st rounder.
- Nucker101

If he can only score on the PP for the most part, it can't even be said he uses his size well... just on the PP.

He reminds me more of Comtois, but who is a PP specialist only.


I take Rasmussen out of the top 10.

Edit: Comtois being more physical.

Where we will pick Rasmussen is an unnecessary reach.
Some picks r not even worth talking about unless trading down.
Up to JB if someone slides too far & if he deals to get him.
Tbh i don't see it happening unless a team offers up a no-brainer.
There is always hope someone might or BPA & call it a day.

If Av's or Yotes slide down in the lottery then Liljgren looks a great consolation to either of them. Thats a real possibility.
Either we get bumped with them or doing the bumping.
With this draft not getting the highest reviews especially on its depth outside of the top 4-5OA then maybe 6-10OA next up 10-12 picks that could move around in any order. Strategizing on the top 10 picks & what teams need most could be a precursor to trades leading up or during the draft. I'm just lovin the wheelin n dealin or just the chance of it. We need to move a D in the end before the E-draft & anything we can parlay that into has my attention. Another 1st or top prospect as long as its bold. Cap space continues to get better n better. Thats an ace up our sleeve eg card we can play when the timing is right. That could take on any form who knows. Everything points to the 2018 or 2019 season. Cap space, prospects on the team, draft picks grooming will be in FULL GEAR.

My personal list of team needs in order next draft.
Using todays standings for draft position.
NOTE: 1st lottery is for 3OA then 2OA & finally 1OA. Odds increase each lottery

17.9%........AV's - top 2D, scoring wingers, goalie
12.1%........Yotes - top 2D, 1C, goalie
10.3%........LVGK - star power BPA
10.3%........Canucks - 1C, scoring top D
8.5%..........Stars - top 2 D, goalie
7.6%..........Jets - idk..they r loaded on prospects..goalie but not 1st rd
6.7%..........Wings - everything almost
5.8%..........Devils - 1C, scoring RW
5.4%..........Canes - 1C, scoring help on the wings
4.5%..........Sabres - shutdown top 2D, LW
89.1% total

Those represent the 10 top teams likely preferences as it seems to me

Agree or disagree is fine but who might get picked or slides who knows but in the mid 1st round D starts to dominate. Top 4 or higher potential. From there on i've no interest on who or what happens if we r not in it. By that i mean who can we trade maybe Tanev to if it makes sense assuming its more than just a pick(s)?

Thursday @ 3:21 PM ET
Lefty, tell me more about being a bully. The other night, you are cracking off about my education and calling me names all on your own... I knew sharing why I had to leave school on this board might draw out a classless act or two but I was surprised you are the only one so far. If I hit a wall in our arguments, I wouldn't reach down that low. I couldn't finish school because of the abuse at home... and at times we didn't even have a home. How many people here lived in a car at times when they we 11 or 12? I guess that will be the next thing you target when you can't win an argument... shame me for the poop out of my control when I was a kid.

I know you don't share much on here... but imagine if cracks were made about the complications your daughter may have in life from her injury for example... I was nothing but supportive like everyone else on here... I wouldn't pick that scab.

You and bloated need to get this poop out of your system. People are bored of it if you hadn't noticed. You've been as stubborn and arrogant on your opinions as anyone on here. Somehow, only the people sticking to their own opinions are arrogant. Glass houses.


- boonerbuck

Agreed. fck enough with the personal attacks not just in this case but between other people on here too...

i don't post on here as much but i'm glad that i don't have any of that caustic back and forth on here.

My personal list of team needs in order next draft.
Using todays standings for draft position.
NOTE: 1st lottery is for 3OA then 2OA & finally 1OA. Odds increase each lottery

17.9%........AV's - top 2D, scoring wingers, goalie
12.1%........Yotes - top 2D, 1C, goalie
10.3%........LVGK - star power BPA
10.3%........Canucks - 1C, scoring top D
8.5%..........Stars - top 2 D, goalie
7.6%..........Jets - idk..they r loaded on prospects..goalie but not 1st rd
6.7%..........Wings - everything almost
5.8%..........Devils - 1C, scoring RW
5.4%..........Canes - 1C, scoring help on the wings
4.5%..........Sabres - shutdown top 2D, LW
89.1% total

Those represent the 10 top teams likely preferences as it seems to me

Agree or disagree is fine but who might get picked or slides who knows but in the mid 1st round D starts to dominate. Top 4 or higher potential. From there on i've no interest on who or what happens if we r not in it. By that i mean who can we trade maybe Tanev to if it makes sense assuming its more than just a pick(s)?
- Nighthawk

I agree with your assessment by and large, just not with the Stars... they'll be able to trade for a top goalchie or get one as a UFA... I'd say they need more top 6 support before a goalchie...

My personal list of team needs in order next draft.
Using todays standings for draft position.
NOTE: 1st lottery is for 3OA then 2OA & finally 1OA. Odds increase each lottery

17.9%........AV's - top 2D, scoring wingers, goalie
12.1%........Yotes - top 2D, 1C, goalie
10.3%........LVGK - star power BPA
10.3%........Canucks - 1C, scoring top D
8.5%..........Stars - top 2 D, goalie
7.6%..........Jets - idk..they r loaded on prospects..goalie but not 1st rd
6.7%..........Wings - everything almost
5.8%..........Devils - 1C, scoring RW
5.4%..........Canes - 1C, scoring help on the wings
4.5%..........Sabres - shutdown top 2D, LW
89.1% total

Those represent the 10 top teams likely preferences as it seems to me

Agree or disagree is fine but who might get picked or slides who knows but in the mid 1st round D starts to dominate. Top 4 or higher potential. From there on i've no interest on who or what happens if we r not in it. By that i mean who can we trade maybe Tanev to if it makes sense assuming its more than just a pick(s)?
- Nighthawk

In this draft Tanev could probably get you Buffalo pick.

I slept for the 3 rd
- VANTEL

I didn't even bother to watch at all. I watched the "game in five". Stecher trying to secure someone in front of the net made me turn it off half way through. Showing lately the pains of a long NHL season. Send him down to Utica and help them out.

thanks for posting this for me. He does look great. Impressed with the amount of multi goal games, one he had 6 points, several at 5 points. Several hat tricks in 1 season. Impressive. Also he seems to score from just about everywhere
- SMBDragon

Only took till the 4:50 mark before he engaged physically with anyone.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5rpsesBDRJI
Looks like Dahlen would be a LW and not Center.

Bo looks like he will crack the 20 goal mark and Granlund doesn't look to far off. That is good news.

I think Sven and Sutter will be close.

I think with another year under their belt Bo Granlund Sutter and maybe Sven will all pass the 20 goal mark.

The reason I say this is because it looks like WD is starting to realize the Sedins are not effective and awarding better opportunities to the new crew.

Someone said last night we don't want to be like the Oilers. I would hate to fall from 28 th and all this mentorship be gone with no one to guide us to 27 th . Check our last 4 years rankings and you may discover that we are the new Oilers without the number one picks.

This so called mentorship is an anchor not a positive.

When I look at the players that leave here and regenerate their game it proves how suffocating a style we play with the predictable perimeter game we play focused on two players.

I swear when they leave I will be doing a happy dance down Granville.

Bo looks like he will crack the 20 goal mark and Granlund doesn't look to far off. That is good news.

I think Sven and Sutter will be close.

I think with another year under their belt Bo Granlund Sutter and maybe Sven will all pass the 20 goal mark.

The reason I say this is because it looks like WD is starting to realize the Sedins are not effective and awarding better opportunities to the new crew.

Someone said last night we don't want to be like the Oilers. I would hate to fall from 28 th and all this mentorship be gone with no one to guide us to 27 th . Check our last 4 years rankings and you may discover that we are the new Oilers without the number one picks.

This so called mentorship is an anchor not a positive.

When I look at the players that leave here and regenerate their game it proves how suffocating a style we play with the predictable perimeter game we play focused on two players.

I swear when they leave I will be doing a happy dance down Granville.
- VANTEL

Granlund definitely has showed the most improvement amongst all our players. However, he's played his best hockey since being bumped up with the Sedins, their mentorship has been a huge positive. On the other hand, they anchor the team in other ways, but it really doesn't make too much of a difference, unfortunately we just gotta wait it out, not much longer.

Sven also looked like he had another gear in his step last night. I don't know why NOT including Sutter, Granlund and Sven as core guys is a thing in this thread?? They all have the potential to put up the majority of goals/points? The talent is here, why are posters looking elsewhere?

Bo looks like he will crack the 20 goal mark and Granlund doesn't look to far off. That is good news.

I think Sven and Sutter will be close.

I think with another year under their belt Bo Granlund Sutter and maybe Sven will all pass the 20 goal mark.

The reason I say this is because it looks like WD is starting to realize the Sedins are not effective and awarding better opportunities to the new crew.

Someone said last night we don't want to be like the Oilers. I would hate to fall from 28 th and all this mentorship be gone with no one to guide us to 27 th . Check our last 4 years rankings and you may discover that we are the new Oilers without the number one picks.

This so called mentorship is an anchor not a positive.

When I look at the players that leave here and regenerate their game it proves how suffocating a style we play with the predictable perimeter game we play focused on two players.

I swear when they leave I will be doing a happy dance down Granville.
- VANTEL

Agreed i can defiently see that happening. There should be no reason the Sedins arent moved to the third line next season. Maybe even play Boeser with them so their line is somewhat entertaining to watch

Granlund definitely has showed the most improvement amongst all our players. However, he's played his best hockey since being bumped up with the Sedins, their mentorship has been a huge positive. On the other hand, they anchor the team in other ways, but it really doesn't make too much of a difference, unfortunately we just gotta wait it out, not much longer.

Sven also looked like he had another gear in his step last night. I don't know why NOT including Sutter, Granlund and Sven as core guys is a thing in this thread?? They all have the potential to put up the majority of goals/points? The talent is here, why are posters looking elsewhere?
- Brooks_Light

I understand that they have one more year and if they decide to stay so be it.

The team with all their mentorship finished 24 th four years ago 28 th last year and are 28 th this year. I think the mentorship is overblown a bit. Not only that but Burrows Twins and Edler provide leadership for a whopping 23.5 mil per year as opposed to a team like Columbus who provide Hartnell mentorship for 5 mil.

As someone said yesterday you can find leadership at a much cheaper rate.

Agreed i can defiently see that happening. There should be no reason the Sedins arent moved to the third line next season. Maybe even play Boeser with them so their line is somewhat entertaining to watch
- phyllee

I honestly hate the idea of putting a young kid with two slow forwards that pass mostly between the two of them.

Make a kid line

I understand that they have one more year and if they decide to stay so be it.

The team with all their mentorship finished 24 th four years ago 28 th last year and are 28 th this year. I think the mentorship is overblown a bit. Not only that but Burrows Twins and Edler provide leadership for a whopping 23.5 mil per year as opposed to a team like Columbus who provide Hartnell mentorship for 5 mil.

As someone said yesterday you can find leadership at a much cheaper rate.
- VANTEL

One more year, don't resign them no matter how much of a home town discount there is.

One more year, don't resign them no matter how much of a home town discount there is.
- VanHockeyGuy

Great to see Horvat hit a milestone and continue to grow as a player, kids good. As for the Sedins, it kind of appalls me that Linden admitted in Friedman's 30 thoughts that they consult the twins on the direction of the club...why? I guess as a business owner I just don't understand that train of thought.

Edit: unless it's to see if they still want to be a part of the club?

Great to see Horvat hit a milestone and continue to grow as a player, kids good. As for the Sedins, it kind of appalls me that Linden admitted in Friedman's 30 thoughts that they consult the twins on the direction of the club...why? I guess as a business owner I just don't understand that train of thought.
- LeftCoaster

Because nobody in Management knows what they are doing?

Because nobody in Management knows what they are doing?
- bloatedmosquito

I think Benning is catching on but Linden with his love for everything Sedin is a bit much. He's too close to some of the players, which holds back the organization...or it can.

Great to see Horvat hit a milestone and continue to grow as a player, kids good. As for the Sedins, it kind of appalls me that Linden admitted in Friedman's 30 thoughts that they consult the twins on the direction of the club...why? I guess as a business owner I just don't understand that train of thought.

Edit: unless it's to see if they still want to be a part of the club?
- LeftCoaster

The Sedins carried this team for close to ten years. They deserve the respect.

I think Benning is catching on but Linden with his love for everything Sedin is a bit much. He's too close to some of the players, which holds back the organization...or it can.
- LeftCoaster

I agree. Talk about a country club atmosphere.