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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 4 @ 1:10 PM ET
I don't see him making the team next year.
- manvanfan



Did you see Magna and Chaput making it this year
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 4 @ 1:10 PM ET
He still pulled the trigger.
- thundachunk

When your boss tells you to do it you comply. Just playing devil's advocate.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 4 @ 1:11 PM ET
It's pretty much the same as Burrows leaving. This team, the system are smothering the players.
- manvanfan

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 4 @ 1:12 PM ET
Did you see Magna and Chaput making it this year
- VANTEL

They at least had some NHL experience and were not 19 years old. I'd prefer not to have another JV, McCann experience.

The team unless something drastic happens probably won't be winning again next season. No sense in having him play.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Mar 4 @ 1:15 PM ET
They at least had some NHL experience and were not 19 years old. I'd prefer not to have another JV, McCann experience.

The team unless something drastic happens probably won't be winning again next season. No sense in having him play.

- manvanfan

There won't be much winning next season.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Mar 4 @ 1:15 PM ET
When your boss tells you to do it you comply. Just playing devil's advocate.
- Marwood

True.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 4 @ 1:20 PM ET
There won't be much winning next season.
- thundachunk

I don't see it either. I kind of hope not also. Just because I wouldn't mind a couple high end players.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 4 @ 1:25 PM ET
They at least had some NHL experience and were not 19 years old. I'd prefer not to have another JV, McCann experience.

The team unless something drastic happens probably won't be winning again next season. No sense in having him play.

- manvanfan



I expect them dead last next year
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Mar 4 @ 1:26 PM ET
I expect them dead last next year
- VANTEL

Well its settled we are now the oilers.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 4 @ 1:29 PM ET
Well its settled we are now the oilers.
- thundachunk



We have goaltending and D though they still don't
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 4 @ 1:31 PM ET
Well its settled we are now the oilers.
- thundachunk

Not even. Van has a legit goalie prospect and a legit defensive prospect. Oilers had neither for 5 years after their first 1OA.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 4 @ 1:31 PM ET


We have goaltending and D though they still don't

- VANTEL

Yah. What Vantel said.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 4 @ 1:31 PM ET
NOT ME! lol I was on the fence. I said I would give it time. Reserved judgement. I was mad about the 2nd for Baert though.
- manvanfan

Fence sitter
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 4 @ 1:33 PM ET
I was the other way on that trade. I even defended Granlund's play last season. It wasn't as bad as some were making it sound. I considered Shink a long shot to be an NHLer. He doesn't even seem to be improving in the AHL although he's doing fine down there.

I imagine we trade Granlund down the road. I'm sure the return will be better than what we gave up for him.

- boonerbuck

A year later it was definitely a win for Benning.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Mar 4 @ 1:35 PM ET


We have goaltending and D though they still don't

- VANTEL

They have imo 2 top ten centres in the league, one of them is probably the best hockey player in the world. We don't have that or even close.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 4 @ 1:37 PM ET
Fence sitter
- LeftCoaster

At least i'm not on the cliff like bloated.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 4 @ 1:37 PM ET
They have imo 2 top ten centres in the league, one of them is probably the best hockey player in the world. We don't have that or even close.
- thundachunk



They are one hit away from being bad as we seen last year
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Mar 4 @ 1:39 PM ET
A year later it was definitely a win for Benning.
- LeftCoaster

He has his wins and his losses. When you look around the league Benning is at least making moves. Edmonton has gone through how many GM's each one not doing $hit just being poor and getting draft picks.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 4 @ 1:40 PM ET
They have imo 2 top ten centres in the league, one of them is probably the best hockey player in the world. We don't have that or even close.
- thundachunk

Well I'd say that you would have a strong chance at getting some good players when you are at it for 10 years.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 4 @ 1:42 PM ET
I was just reading the first page about Lack and wanted make someone look like an ass.
- thundachunk

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 4 @ 1:42 PM ET
He has his wins and his losses. When you look around the league Benning is at least making moves. Edmonton has gone through how many GM's each one not doing $hit just being poor and getting draft picks.
- thundachunk

Most teams are just looking for draft picks and that's all they have got. I went back through the trade tracker for past couple season and there isn't a lot of prospects traded. Maybe ones that aren't doing as well like Kassian, Lazar, CoHo. A Shink for Granlund type trade but not many where the prospect is highly rated but still unknown. Probably everyone learned from WSH and trading away Filip Forsberg.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 4 @ 1:45 PM ET
That trade did annoy me to no end, you don't need to spend those kind of assets to acquire a guy with Gudbranson's skill-set....or lack of.

Water under the bridge now...

- LeftCoaster

you were wrong on Sven, wrong on Granlund and you will be wrong on EG
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Mar 4 @ 1:47 PM ET
Most teams are just looking for draft picks and that's all they have got. I went back through the trade tracker for past couple season and there isn't a lot of prospects traded. Maybe ones that aren't doing as well like Kassian, Lazar, CoHo. A Shink for Granlund type trade but not many where the prospect is highly rated but still unknown. Probably everyone learned from WSH and trading away Filip Forsberg.
- manvanfan

They had KUznetsov.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 4 @ 1:50 PM ET
Could have been Aquilini interference.
- Marwood


this excuse is getting old... Management's role in any organization be it sports or otherwise is to take an owner's vision make it work. Aquaman might be putting unrealistic goals in front of these guys but again good management are able to know when to say no that is wrong, you hired me for a reason, let me do my job.

Obviously ownership needs to sign off on the contacts but they are not the one who are choosing the players or dictating the terms etc.

I have a really hard time believing guys like Linden and Benning, successful, competitive athletes, are just going to roll over and say well I didn't agree with the owners on signing Eriksson but I don't want to lose my job so I'm just going to go along with it.


Edit just saw your Devils advocate comment. Fair enough but it gets thrown around a lot here I feel like it is the norm for anything that doesn't look like it is working.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 4 @ 1:51 PM ET
you were wrong on Sven, wrong on Granlund and you will be wrong on EG
- CanuckDon

I don't think so, he's played 340 games in the league, he is what he is. Everyone (generalization) said Tanev was working on his shot, working on his offence, well guess what, he is what he is too. And that's fine, he's very good defensively.

I'm fine with Gudbranson, I just don't like what they used to trade for him.
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