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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 5 @ 10:25 AM ET
What are you doing with my avatar? Are you an insider?
- Argue4U

No. WD is a bad coach. He should be working towards next season. Instead he's stuck in his ways.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Mar 5 @ 10:30 AM ET
Was much much better then the game against Binghamton.


http://theprovince.com/sp...frontation-with-team-tank

- manvanfan

Thanks I really didn't want to re-live that one.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 5 @ 10:32 AM ET
Uh…excuse me dude…we don't have systems…haven't you been reading? lol
- LordHumungous

"Consider that Bo Horvat said the best thing Willie has done for him in three years, was put Alex Burrows on his line.

That’s some compliment."

In three years the best thing WD has done for Bo, is to put another player on his line. To me that says everything about WD coaching right there. WD let Alex Burrows coach him to his best year yet.

I sure hope they bring Burrows back a coach in the future.
Argue4U
Seattle Kraken
Joined: 03.04.2017

Mar 5 @ 10:33 AM ET
No. WD is a bad coach. He should be working towards next season. Instead he's stuck in his ways.
- manvanfan


A coaches job is to win games.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 5 @ 10:37 AM ET
A coaches job is to win games.
- Argue4U

I guess you're the Devils advocate. Good to know.
Trying to win is over. It's time to teach. WD doesn't seem to be very good at that.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 5 @ 10:39 AM ET
Virtanen 1 goal 1 assist, game winner 2nd star.
- Bettmanhatesus

yay
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Mar 5 @ 10:39 AM ET
Vancouver media on a witch hunt to get Willie fired. I've never seen them like this before.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 5 @ 10:40 AM ET
yay
- VANTEL

No assist.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 5 @ 10:40 AM ET
Vancouver media on a witch hunt to get Willie fired. I've never seen them like this before.
- Scooby_Doo

#freewillie is trending.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Mar 5 @ 10:41 AM ET
Vancouver media on a witch hunt to get Willie fired. I've never seen them like this before.
- Scooby_Doo

It couldn't be the players fault.
Argue4U
Seattle Kraken
Joined: 03.04.2017

Mar 5 @ 10:41 AM ET
I guess you're the Devils advocate. Good to know.
Trying to win is over. It's time to teach. WD doesn't seem to be very good at that.

- manvanfan


You teach in practice, prepare your team. On game day you go for the win.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Mar 5 @ 10:45 AM ET
https://www.facebook.com/...s/videos/763874477122133/
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 5 @ 10:47 AM ET
I think WD is in over his head but I also agree with ASLs comment yesterday , get a new coach after Sedins retire.

The last thing you need is some coach coming in and not having full control.

The team works hard for WD so take your high draft pick this year and next and then go for a new package.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 5 @ 10:50 AM ET
You teach in practice, prepare your team. On game day you go for the win.
- Argue4U

If that was the case then the coach wouldn't need to be behind the bench. He could sit in the press box and watch his team in a lounge chair.
Argue4U
Seattle Kraken
Joined: 03.04.2017

Mar 5 @ 10:53 AM ET
If that was the case then the coach wouldn't need to be behind the bench. He could sit in the press box and watch his team in a lounge chair.
- manvanfan


Matchups, special teams, shoot outs, key face offs?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 5 @ 10:54 AM ET
The only player with a +/- in the negative was Granlund .


It is funny how that works . When Sutter was on that line he was a minus player also .

Eriksson also .

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Mar 5 @ 10:56 AM ET
I will ask you this, if its all about talent then what about the nyrs in the 90's before the cap came in. $95 M in payroll and they signed every talent they could. STar studded roster....even gretzky. Yet they couldnt even make the playoffs year after year! Everyone said theyd win the cup based on roster. Crash and burn. Yet the talent was there.

I'd also like to point out how certain coaches go team to team yet have the exact same results with a different roster. THats not the team its the coach. scotty bowman for example...BB...Dave tippet....AV

Then we have the pens. Both times they win the cup in recent years its after a coaching change. Same roster that wasnt gonna make playoffs then the change and win a cup. Same players, same talent. When blysma was hired it was mid season even.
Try not to dismiss the role coaches have on the outcome.

- SMBDragon

But…Boudreau and AV both walked into pretty great roster situations…as did Tippett in PHX at one time and he wasn't able to do much there. And of course the Pens both times had the best player in the world and the depth on roster to make it happen.

I get your arguments Dragon but it really does begin with a proper balanced roster. There aren't really any other top end coaches out there that could have squeezed any more out of this aging country-club core this year and previous. Hence Torts doing way better with a strong roster as opposed to an aging core. Willie has brought youth along at every level…WHL…AHL and now NHL with Bo-Sven-Granlund-Tree and even Stecher and more to come if they decide to keep WD here…Hell, even Magma and Chapoo look better under WD.

You have teams with what could be considered 'real good' coaches struggling to make the PO's when they should have solidified a spot by now in the post-season. Cooper in TB, Hakstol in PHI, Maurice in WPG, Ruff in DAL, Sutter in LA are just a few examples of good coaches struggling to get teams in because they are just missing pieces on their rosters…they just can't squeeze any more out.

I'm sure the Nucks will weigh their options in the summer on a coach as they should…but I also would not be shocked to see WD back here for a few more seasons to bring some more youth along. In 3 years (or so) when Demko-Boeser-Juolevi-Goblin-Dahlen and a few other prospects are solidified on this roster we may see a major push for a top end playoff coach.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 5 @ 10:56 AM ET
https://www.facebook.com/UticaComets/videos/763874477122133/
- thundachunk

I have never thought to check on the Comets on Facebook.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 5 @ 10:57 AM ET
Matchups, special teams, shoot outs, key face offs?
- Argue4U

Should be all in the game plan he came up with during the practices right?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 5 @ 10:59 AM ET
I didn't look at the JV lowlight package yesterday. The kid knows he just got passed by two prospects this week and if he has any intention of becoming an NHL player he better get his sh!t together.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 5 @ 11:00 AM ET
The only player with a +/- in the negative was Granlund .


It is funny how that works . When Sutter was on that line he was a minus player also .

Eriksson also .

- VANTEL

But he is one of Van's better Fancy Stat players.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 5 @ 11:01 AM ET
I didn't look at the JV lowlight package yesterday. The kid knows he just got passed by two prospects this week and if he has any intention of becoming an NHL player he better get his sh!t together.
- VANTEL

Go to theahl.com and watch the highlight package. Cassels don't suck as much as most think either.
Argue4U
Seattle Kraken
Joined: 03.04.2017

Mar 5 @ 11:02 AM ET
Should be all in the game plan he came up with during the practices right?
- manvanfan


Well if that was the case it that would apply to every coach in the league then. I do respect your opinion though and won't argue with you.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Mar 5 @ 11:03 AM ET
I wonder what number Horvat will sign at. Likely 8 years at $5-$6m is my guess.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Mar 5 @ 11:04 AM ET
I think WD is in over his head but I also agree with ASLs comment yesterday , get a new coach after Sedins retire.

The last thing you need is some coach coming in and not having full control.

The team works hard for WD so take your high draft pick this year and next and then go for a new package.

- VANTEL

So we have WD for 4 more years?
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