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WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Mar 4 @ 4:59 PM ET
Mete gets all the offensive assignments while his D-play is pretty suspect but ya, i hear you.

I'm not to stoked with the fact that O.J, while playing good minutes, appears to be deployed as a top 4 guy as opposed to that #1-2 D- man that Benning sold the franchise on...Plus, this is in the OHL we are talking

I'll say it again, i think O.J is going to develop into a Tanev like player (at best), which on one hand is great yet on the other, a tad disappointing for a 5th overall selection.

- Whiskey-Tango


I am less concerned with Juolevi's performance this year for a couple reasons.

1) the Knights are not as good as last year. As many carry-overs that they have, none compare to a Marner or Tkachuk, their leading scorers this year are 3rd & 4th round picks, not the elite talent.

2) Championship hangovers are mentally tough to break through. The kid had one hell of a year last year: WJC's, OHL and Memorial Cup, draft, prospects camp. It was a short summer, and would have to be tough to get up for regular season OHL games again.

You would like the 5th overall pick to overcome the shortfalls of his team and still drive play in a lower league, but I think that he will just take a bit longer (due to short off-seasons) to get stronger and adjust to that role playing without elite players his age. I didn't suspect he would graduate from OHL to NHL, we need to be more patient with him but he still has the smarts and skills to be a top defensemen IMO
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 4 @ 5:01 PM ET

- A_SteamingLombardi

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 4 @ 5:02 PM ET


I dunno b'out dat buddai.

- Whiskey-Tango

No worries. Pretty sure it's been established on here that you don't actually watch hockey
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 4 @ 5:02 PM ET
Mete gets all the offensive assignments while his D-play is pretty suspect but ya, i hear you.

I'm not to stoked with the fact that O.J, while playing good minutes, appears to be deployed as a top 4 guy as opposed to that #1-2 D- man that Benning sold the franchise on...Plus, this is in the OHL we are talking

I'll say it again, i think O.J is going to develop into a Tanev like player (at best), which on one hand is great yet on the other, a tad disappointing for a 5th overall selection.

- Whiskey-Tango

He's a 5OA not a 1-2-3. That is where most often the stud D are found.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 4 @ 5:04 PM ET
I'm confused, I thought you said you hate Granlund playing with the Sedins and that he's useless??? And now you're saying he made Sutter better but only had 1 assist. you're all over the map.
- Brooks_Light

No megna is useless. Granlund would be better served helping out Sutter then the Sedins.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 4 @ 5:04 PM ET
Replace the coach when we replace the Sedins.
- A_SteamingLombardi





And thanks for the rugby updates.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 4 @ 5:08 PM ET
Having a cannon is really empowering
- CanuckDon

Great accessory to have. Accessories are confidence.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Mar 4 @ 5:09 PM ET
He's a 5OA not a 1-2-3. That is where most often the stud D are found.
- manvanfan



HE was the 1st Dman drafted. He better be a stud (and I think he will be)
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Mar 4 @ 5:11 PM ET
No megna is useless. Granlund would be better served helping out Sutter then the Sedins.
- manvanfan


Dank needs all the help he can get.
Sooner he gets to 1k. The sooner we can begin rampant trade speculation and keep half his salary.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Mar 4 @ 5:11 PM ET
Mete gets all the offensive assignments while his D-play is pretty suspect but ya, i hear you.

I'm not to stoked with the fact that O.J, while playing good minutes, appears to be deployed as a top 4 guy as opposed to that #1-2 D- man that Benning sold the franchise on...Plus, this is in the OHL we are talking

I'll say it again, i think O.J is going to develop into a Tanev like player (at best), which on one hand is great yet on the other, a tad disappointing for a 5th overall selection.

- Whiskey-Tango


Mete is the PP architect and runs the show, his offensive skills are fantastic and his foot speed and skating are second to none. He reminds me of a faster version of Patrick Kane with the way he sees the ice, passes and navigates around players into open areas.

While OJ is better defensively he still plays a ton of offensive minutes and its suspect his numbers haven't improved given the team he's on. I was wrong about one thing, he did gain 8lbs so far since he was drafted, which is good news.

I have to disagree about one thing, he doesn't remind me of Tanev in any way. And thankfully has a much better shot than Tanev could ever dream of having. OJ reminds me more of Giordano than anyone else, and if that turns out to be true, Id be happy with that.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Mar 4 @ 5:15 PM ET
No megna is useless. Granlund would be better served helping out Sutter then the Sedins.
- manvanfan


gotcha, that makes sense.

I honestly think Granlund has possibly made the most strides of improvement on the entire team. Sven, Traymkin - close behind.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Mar 4 @ 5:17 PM ET
Mete is the PP architect and runs the PP, his offensive skills are fantastic and his foot speed and skating are second to none. He reminds me of a faster version of Patrick Kane with the way he sees the ice, passes and navigates around players into open areas.

While OJ is better defensively he still plays a ton of offensive minutes and its suspect his numbers haven't improved given the team he's on. I was wrong about one thing, he did gain 8lbs so far since he was drafted, which is good news.

I have to disagree about one thing, he doesn't remind me of Tanev in any way. And thankfully has a much better shot than Tanev could ever dream of having. OJ reminds me more of Giordano than anyone else, and if that turns out to be true, Id be happy with that.

- Brooks_Light

Sounds like we should pick up that Mete guy...
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 4 @ 5:18 PM ET
Mete is the PP architect and runs the PP, his offensive skills are fantastic and his foot speed and skating are second to none. He reminds me of a faster version of Patrick Kane with the way he sees the ice, passes and navigates around players into open areas.

While OJ is better defensively he still plays a ton of offensive minutes and its suspect his numbers haven't improved given the team he's on. I was wrong about one thing, he did gain 8lbs so far since he was drafted, which is good news.

I have to disagree about one thing, he doesn't remind me of Tanev in any way. And thankfully has a much better shot than Tanev could ever dream of having. OJ reminds me more of Giordano than anyone else, and if that turns out to be true, Id be happy with that.

- Brooks_Light


the Tanev comparison is a strange one
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Mar 4 @ 5:18 PM ET
gotcha, that makes sense.

I honestly think Granlund has possibly made the most strides of improvement on the entire team. Sven, Traymkin - close behind.

- Brooks_Light


I'd put the granny as most improved fwd, but hard to argue against Trees improved game. He's got my vote
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Mar 4 @ 5:21 PM ET
I am less concerned with Juolevi's performance this year for a couple reasons.

1) the Knights are not as good as last year. As many carry-overs that they have, none compare to a Marner or Tkachuk, their leading scorers this year are 3rd & 4th round picks, not the elite talent.

2) Championship hangovers are mentally tough to break through. The kid had one hell of a year last year: WJC's, OHL and Memorial Cup, draft, prospects camp. It was a short summer, and would have to be tough to get up for regular season OHL games again.

You would like the 5th overall pick to overcome the shortfalls of his team and still drive play in a lower league, but I think that he will just take a bit longer (due to short off-seasons) to get stronger and adjust to that role playing without elite players his age. I didn't suspect he would graduate from OHL to NHL, we need to be more patient with him but he still has the smarts and skills to be a top defensemen IMO

- WhiteLie

Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Mar 4 @ 5:22 PM ET
Sounds like we should pick up that Mete guy...
- kaptaan


see if you can convince Bergevin and let us know how that turns out
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Mar 4 @ 5:24 PM ET
I'd put the granny as most improved fwd, but hard to argue against Trees improved game. He's got my vote
- dbot


its hard not to love Tree, wish he'd rush the puck more - he got tons of potential, especially once he gains more confidence.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 4 @ 5:27 PM ET
its hard not to love Tree, wish he'd rush the puck more - he got tons of potential, especially once he gains more confidence.
- Brooks_Light

Imagine the size of the mumps on that guy.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Mar 4 @ 5:30 PM ET
No worries. Pretty sure it's been established on here that you don't actually watch hockey
- CanuckDon




Ok Don, you are right, your record speaks for itself
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 4 @ 5:32 PM ET
Imagine the size of the mumps on that guy.
- A_SteamingLombardi

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 4 @ 5:33 PM ET


Ok Don, you are right, your record speaks for itself

- Whiskey-Tango

I was wrong. Pedan wasn't claimed by the Leafs
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Mar 4 @ 5:33 PM ET
the Tanev comparison is a strange one
- CanuckDon


"A two-way defenceman at the top of his class in intellect, composure, and decision-making. Elite-level hockey IQ pairs seamlessly with smooth skating and quick puck movement. Defensively assertive and diligent; keeps the opposition to the outside and along the boards, and doesn't give much to work with up the middle. Finds key lanes and takes them away proactively. Good first pass and can provide support offensively. Is the total package defenceman that can offer positives in all three zones due to his calm disposition and superb poise"

You don't think that sounds like Tanev?
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Mar 4 @ 5:40 PM ET
"A two-way defenceman at the top of his class in intellect, composure, and decision-making. Elite-level hockey IQ pairs seamlessly with smooth skating and quick puck movement. Defensively assertive and diligent; keeps the opposition to the outside and along the boards, and doesn't give much to work with up the middle. Finds key lanes and takes them away proactively. Good first pass and can provide support offensively. Is the total package defenceman that can offer positives in all three zones due to his calm disposition and superb poise"

You don't think that sounds like Tanev?

- Whiskey-Tango


Where the hell is that in Tanev's game, he's a defensive defenseman, period. When has Tanev ever "provided support offensively" in his career besides making that first pass out of the zone to the forwards?
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Mar 4 @ 5:44 PM ET
Where the hell is that in Tanev's game, he's a defensive defenseman, period. When has Tanev ever "provided support offensively" in his career besides making that first pass out of the zone to the forwards?
- DariusKnight


I think you answered your own question.
Also, i was trying to trap Don, as that quite literally is the scouting report on Tanev...not O.J.

Thanks
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 4 @ 5:45 PM ET
Where the hell is that in Tanev's game, he's a defensive defenseman, period. When has Tanev ever "provided support offensively" in his career besides making that first pass out of the zone to the forwards?
- DariusKnight

No kidding. whiskey is high and trolling again
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