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LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 6 @ 11:51 AM ET
They won.
- Marwood

That's a simplistic look at it though, if you dissect it, they won because of goaltending not because of coaching. They gave up 90 shots, that's an issue!!

Montreal was in first place in their division and still fired their coach, on the surface it looks good, but if you dig deeper there's issues....that's all I'm saying.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Mar 6 @ 11:51 AM ET
Pretty funny to see people calling for Willie's head after two back to back victories in California.
This fan base is a general embarrassment. Shameful.

- Marwood


I enjoy seeing them win, standings be damned.

Great to see some new faces in the lineup, want to see them do well. I think the draft lotto allows for some wins, so much chance involved.

Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 6 @ 11:59 AM ET
Did you delete any of my posts....because that would make me
- LeftCoaster

No how could I ever delete a well articulated, thoughtful post by you, when Lefty posts people listen and bow in awe
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 6 @ 12:00 PM ET
this team is going to lose more often than not anyways. Judgement should be made based on his decisions going forward and whether they support the rebuild, since the direction was only changed like a week ago.

I was very happy to see that 53-47-60-27-51 were first ones out on the PP a few times, even though the Sedins were rested. Likewise I like the addition of Goldoblin on with the experienced guys as he gets integrated (it injury influenced, but glad the priority was to keep the other unit together rather than adding Sven with the Sedins). If he keeps making decisions like these, I am fine with keeping WD around until this team is ready to be competitive again

- WhiteLie

That's nice but none if it matters as long as Willie behind the bench.

I'm not even a fan of Willie but the hysteria is baffling. Oh, I forgot, if they get Hitchcock to coach the Presidents Trophy will be forever re-named the Canuck Trophy.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 6 @ 12:00 PM ET
No how could I ever delete a well articulated, thoughtful post by you, when Lefty posts people listen and bow in awe
- Makita

I think they're generally more confused than in awe
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 6 @ 12:00 PM ET
That's nice but none if it matters as long as Willie behind the bench.

I'm not even a fan of Willie but the hysteria is baffling. Oh, I forgot, if they get Hitchcock to coach the Presidents Trophy will be forever re-named the Canuck Trophy.

- Marwood

Did you know Willie Desjardins is 6th all-time in games coached for the Canucks

Only Vigneault, Crawford, Neale, Quinn, McCammon are ahead of him after this season.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 6 @ 12:00 PM ET
That's a simplistic look at it though, if you dissect it, they won because of goaltending not because of coaching. They gave up 90 shots, that's an issue!!

Montreal was in first place in their division and still fired their coach, on the surface it looks good, but if you dig deeper there's issues....that's all I'm saying.

- LeftCoaster

Ok.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 6 @ 12:03 PM ET
Ok.
- Marwood

This is a great retort when you know you're wrong
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 6 @ 12:06 PM ET
Pretty funny to see people calling for Willie's head after two back to back victories in California.
This fan base is a general embarrassment. Shameful.

- Marwood

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 6 @ 12:07 PM ET
I think people have generally been on the fire him side for awhile now. They gave up 90 shots in the two games, their goaltenders won them the games....not Desjardin.
- LeftCoaster

Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 6 @ 12:07 PM ET
This is a great retort when you know you're wrong
- LeftCoaster

Wrong about finding it ironic that people are freaking out about Willie after winning 2 back to back games on the road?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 6 @ 12:08 PM ET
Wrong about finding it ironic that people are freaking out about Willie after winning 2 back to back games on the road?
- Marwood

No...
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 6 @ 12:09 PM ET
this team is going to lose more often than not anyways. Judgement should be made based on his decisions going forward and whether they support the rebuild, since the direction was only changed like a week ago.

I was very happy to see that 53-47-60-27-51 were first ones out on the PP a few times, even though the Sedins were rested. Likewise I like the addition of Goldoblin on with the experienced guys as he gets integrated (it injury influenced, but glad the priority was to keep the other unit together rather than adding Sven with the Sedins). If he keeps making decisions like these, I am fine with keeping WD around until this team is ready to be competitive again

- WhiteLie


It's convenient that fans are calling for his dismissal and he does the right thing and gives the kids some opportunities. Why can't he make the right decision on his own?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 6 @ 12:10 PM ET
They definitely need to rely on Horvat offensively much much more. Henrik is getting 59.7% of zone starts in the offensive zone at even strength, Daniel is getting 60.5%.

Horvat on the other hand is getting 45% at even strength.

ATOI (average time on ice) Henrik is still averaging 19:13 minutes and Daniel 18:29. Horvat is at 17:49, so he's catching them, but he needs to be above them next year.

http://www.hockey-referen...e.com/teams/VAN/2017.html

- LeftCoaster


You are absolutely correct that Horvat needs more O zone starts but the Sedin's would get buried if they started in their own end more frequently.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 6 @ 12:12 PM ET
Wrong about finding it ironic that people are freaking out about Willie after winning 2 back to back games on the road?
- Marwood

Are people still complaining? I was complaining after the LA game but now that we are back in the playoff picture I think Willie is a sensational coach.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Mar 6 @ 12:14 PM ET
It's convenient that fans are calling for his dismissal and he does the right thing and gives the kids some opportunities. Why can't he make the right decision on his own?
- CanuckDon


I really think the mandate changed on him. He said essentially called out management last year when he said its difficult to try and compete but also develop players, and as of the TDL it was the first time anyone in Canucks said our focus is the future.

I cant blame him for having trust in certain players in attempts to squeeze out wins with that kind of roster. I hope now he becomes more ok with mistakes in an effort to develop these kids, if he fails to they need to find a coach that will
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 6 @ 12:16 PM ET
Are people still complaining? I was complaining after the LA game but now that we are back in the playoff picture I think Willie is a sensational coach.
- CanuckDon

Does the sun rise in the east?
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Mar 6 @ 12:33 PM ET
splitting up the Sedins is pointless. They are struggling while playing with each other, what makes you think they will be any better being split up. I think they need moved to more of a "2nd line" deployment. Both in game and on the PP. Move Bo's line to number 1 and Let Bo's PP line start the PP. He shouldn't be playing behind the Sedins anymore, and I think he has proved that.
- Codes1087



Yeah I'd go with that order for Bo. My suggestion on splitting them up between a second and third line.

Like Danny could help Sutter. Granlund with Goldy and Hank. As an example. Might see how that works as a set up for next season. They might be more useful and less harmful without the puck for next season.

Plus help the style of the team develop more offensively. Just don't know if the coach and management see it like that or would know how to push it on them.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Mar 6 @ 12:34 PM ET
Did you know Willie Desjardins is 6th all-time in games coached for the Canucks

Only Vigneault, Crawford, Neale, Quinn, McCammon are ahead of him after this season.

- LeftCoaster


lots of coaching changes over many losing seasons.

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 6 @ 12:53 PM ET
I really think the mandate changed on him. He said essentially called out management last year when he said its difficult to try and compete but also develop players, and as of the TDL it was the first time anyone in Canucks said our focus is the future.

I cant blame him for having trust in certain players in attempts to squeeze out wins with that kind of roster. I hope now he becomes more ok with mistakes in an effort to develop these kids, if he fails to they need to find a coach that will

- WhiteLie


I think it's fair to blame him for placing his trust in Chaput, Magma, Vey, Dorsett etc. With the exception of Dorsett, none of them belong in the NHL. Benning deserves some blame here though. He should send these guys to Utica so Willie can't deploy his pets over more skilled, younger players like Boucher and Gaunce.
Bullfrog77
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 02.18.2015

Mar 6 @ 12:54 PM ET
splitting up the Sedins is pointless. They are struggling while playing with each other, what makes you think they will be any better being split up. I think they need moved to more of a "2nd line" deployment. Both in game and on the PP. Move Bo's line to number 1 and Let Bo's PP line start the PP. He shouldn't be playing behind the Sedins anymore, and I think he has proved that.
- Codes1087

They played third line minutes last night
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Mar 6 @ 1:03 PM ET
I think it's fair to blame him for placing his trust in Chaput, Magma, Vey, Dorsett etc. With the exception of Dorsett, none of them belong in the NHL. Benning deserves some blame here though. He should send these guys to Utica so Willie can't deploy his pets over more skilled, younger players like Boucher and Gaunce.
- CanuckDon


It is definitely fair, but I dont know the relationships or expectations given to players to say he should trust one over another. I do agree its a shared blame, if Benning is unhappy with who he uses, it is his roster to change
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Mar 6 @ 1:04 PM ET
I think it's fair to blame him for placing his trust in Chaput, Magma, Vey, Dorsett etc. With the exception of Dorsett, none of them belong in the NHL. Benning deserves some blame here though. He should send these guys to Utica so Willie can't deploy his pets over more skilled, younger players like Boucher and Gaunce.
- CanuckDon



Would like to see that. You wonder if Nucks care to promote and develop any exposed players prior to Vegas draft?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Mar 6 @ 1:12 PM ET
They played third line minutes last night
- Bullfrog77


yah and they won lol
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Mar 6 @ 1:22 PM ET
Hockey talk?

Boooooooooring.
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