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- VANTEL

I love you Bro
- VANTEL

Lemmings

Carol, I agree with you about Goblins lack of ice time being blown out of proportion like all things Canucks. But it's an accumulation of bizarre decisions by Willie. His deployment of Vey, Magma, Horvat, chaput. Having Dorset on the ice with th goalie pulled. It's a 100 small bizarre things that have warranted his dismissal. I want him fired on the last day of the season. Let him ride out his last year
- CanuckDon

I am unsure how I feel about the coaching situation. I feel like WD is a very good coach for young players with how well liked he is, that is a challenging thing to do and could probably be a good thing until these kids get comfortable at the NHL level.

The other reason I would be hesitant to dismiss him, is who do you bring in that fits the team? We dont know which of the "future" will arrive, how they will be in the NHL and their strengths. I would like to see the next coach fit the team and their style, not pick the coach and have these players adapt.

For me, I have a clean slate for Willie and he has from now until the end of the year to show that he is committed to development of our long term players. He said previously it was a challenge to try and be competitive while developing kids, well now one of those is gone so he should be able to focus entirely on the other now

love hate relationship, there stuck in there own zone a lot, they hook and hold because there to slow but yet they can still put up points 40 to 50 now which isn't horrendous.
- Bettmanhatesus

This stat drives me crazy.

If Bo and Sven played 25 minutes a game, played the bulk of every PP, had most Offensive zone starts, and passed 90 % of their passes to each other, that their numbers would be much higher?

I don't have any juicy inside intel. My opinion on Willie is essentially unchanged from Year 1.

Tank Nation might not like it, but he's still coaching to win games. His NHL record is going to appear next to his name until the end of time; he wants it to be as good as it can be.

I do think his coaching style breeds trust from his players and he deserves credit for the development we've seen from Bo, Sven, Granlund and the young D-men. As I've said before, I wish he'd be more responsive with his player management during games and more willing to make adjustments, more willing to ride the hot hand or mix things up to try to spark the team.

But perhaps those moves would erode the positives of his relationships with his players? It could be a double-edged sword.

Like many things Canucks-related, I think fans' emotions have a tendency to get overblown when it comes to Willie. Goldobin's ice time in his first game should not be cause for opening a special investigation.
- Carol Schram

Indeed, but Megna??? WD says Goldobin doesn't know the system well enough. Sure his goal was a bit lucky, but he did finish the breakaway. Who else on the Canucks can do that? Horvat and maybe Baertschi. While I like beating the Kings (who looked awful at times), the win was pointless. I'd rather lose 5-4 and get the young guys scoring than win 2-1 and turtle in the third.

This stat drives me crazy.

If Bo and Sven played 25 minutes a game, played the bulk of every PP, had most Offensive zone starts, and passed 90 % of their passes to each other, that their numbers would be much higher?
- VANTEL

100%

This stat drives me crazy.

If Bo and Sven played 25 minutes a game, played the bulk of every PP, had most Offensive zone starts, and passed 90 % of their passes to each other, that their numbers would be much higher?
- VANTEL

This is 100% accurate.

Indeed, but Megna??? WD says Goldobin don't know the system well enough. Sure his goal was a bit lucky, but he did finish the breakaway. Who else on the Canucks can do that? Horvat and maybe Baertschi. While I like beating the Kings (who looked awful at times), the win was pointless. I'd rather lose 5-4 and get the young guys scoring than win 2-1 and turtle in the third.
- pmg2008

This is 100% accurate.
- mauryballstein

You basically copied my post. 95%

Indeed, but Megna??? WD says Goldobin don't know the system well enough. Sure his goal was a bit lucky, but he did finish the breakaway. Who else on the Canucks can do that? Horvat and maybe Baertschi. While I like beating the Kings (who looked awful at times), the win was pointless. I'd rather lose 5-4 and get the young guys scoring than win 2-1 and turtle in the third.
- pmg2008

If he isnt going to play the kids at this point in the season then fire him.

You basically copied my post. 95%
- CanuckDon

You won the fastest typing award

I am unsure how I feel about the coaching situation. I feel like WD is a very good coach for young players with how well liked he is, that is a challenging thing to do and could probably be a good thing until these kids get comfortable at the NHL level.

The other reason I would be hesitant to dismiss him, is who do you bring in that fits the team? We dont know which of the "future" will arrive, how they will be in the NHL and their strengths. I would like to see the next coach fit the team and their style, not pick the coach and have these players adapt.

For me, I have a clean slate for Willie and he has from now until the end of the year to show that he is committed to development of our long term players. He said previously it was a challenge to try and be competitive while developing kids, well now one of those is gone so he should be able to focus entirely on the other now
- WhiteLie

Willie needs a strong experienced assistant, like Crawford is in Ottawa. I like Jarvis alot; we need another like him. Look at the Seahawks. Their assistants are always being plucked to be head coaches. The NHL has evolved to that level. A strong financial investment needs to be made on the coaching staff.

Playoffs in two years.

This stat drives me crazy.

If Bo and Sven played 25 minutes a game, played the bulk of every PP, had most Offensive zone starts, and passed 90 % of their passes to each other, that their numbers would be much higher?
- VANTEL

yes they would for sure, I would hope next year this becomes reality.

We forget that the Sedins for the last 10 years have probably played 6 minutes a night at 5 on 4 that is close to 800 games with a very good chance at scoring a point.

Time to pass that torch over to Bo


( 4 penalties a night average and they played about 1.30 of the two min PP)

People talk about how sad the Canucks look, how would you like to be a King fan? Yes they have two cups but the next few years look bad bad bad
- VANTEL

I watched the comets game after the nuck game on tape, jake was the best player on the ice he was flying, making plays he wasn't out looking for the big hit although he could have numerous times so that tells me green is working with him to be a top 6 using his speed and skill and not just to go out and smash guys, just what I thought, hes coming along, as for demko he was outstanding, he was moving well, reading plays, never once out of position, he made some great saves.
- Bettmanhatesus

you better be carefull saying anything good about JV on this site , it might not go over well with some posters

This is 100% accurate.
- mauryballstein

What is 100% accurate? They don't play anything close to 25 min a game.

If we want to start talking about points vs ice time it's pretty easy to look up.

Points per 60min
Bo is first followed by Baertschi and the Sedins.....I might be wrong about Baertschi but I think a large part of his success is getting to ride shotgun on Bo's line.

Like it or not the Sedins still put up better #'s than the majority of this sad sack team and I'm not going to bother to get into arguments like quality of competition but there is another element there as well.

I don't have any juicy inside intel. My opinion on Willie is essentially unchanged from Year 1.

Tank Nation might not like it, but he's still coaching to win games. His NHL record is going to appear next to his name until the end of time; he wants it to be as good as it can be.

I do think his coaching style breeds trust from his players and he deserves credit for the development we've seen from Bo, Sven, Granlund and the young D-men. As I've said before, I wish he'd be more responsive with his player management during games and more willing to make adjustments, more willing to ride the hot hand or mix things up to try to spark the team.

But perhaps those moves would erode the positives of his relationships with his players? It could be a double-edged sword.

Like many things Canucks-related, I think fans' emotions have a tendency to get overblown when it comes to Willie. Goldobin's ice time in his first game should not be cause for opening a special investigation.
- Carol Schram

I don't see how considering the best thing Bo said he has done is put Burrows as his linemate. Then Bo went onto say how Burrows was always helping him. He's so knowledgeable. I don't hear anything about WD.

you better be carefull saying anything good about JV on this site , it might not go over well with some posters
- onesmallleap

We loved the highlights from last night, much better then the Binghamton game.

Glad to see he is progressing.

We forget that the Sedins for the last 10 years have probably played 6 minutes a night at 5 on 4 that is close to 800 games with a very good chance at scoring a point.

Time to pass that torch over to Bo


( 4 penalties a night average and they played about 1.30 of the two min PP)
- VANTEL

Don't get me wrong I'm not debating that Bo should be getting more of that ice time, in fact I've been beating that drum along with playing him with Eriksson for a while.

I just can't understand the argument that they are holding this team back....Maybe if they were putting up 70 pts and we were in the wildcard spot I could understand the argument.

I don't see how considering the best thing Bo said he has done is put Burrows as his linemate. Then Bo went onto say how Burrows was always helping him. He's so knowledgeable. I don't hear anything about WD.
- manvanfan

Taken out of context much? Bo said Burr was the best thing he did for him it doesn't mean anything other than Burr helped him a lot.

Don't get me wrong I'm not debating that Bo should be getting more of that ice time, in fact I've been beating that drum along with playing him with Eriksson for a while.

I just can't understand the argument that they are holding this team back....Maybe if they were putting up 70 pts and we were in the wildcard spot I could understand the argument.
- belcherbd

I think it's a pretty simple argument. They are taking opportunities away from younger more skilled teamates

What is 100% accurate? They don't play anything close to 25 min a game.

If we want to start talking about points vs ice time it's pretty easy to look up.

Points per 60min
Bo is first followed by Baertschi and the Sedins.....I might be wrong about Baertschi but I think a large part of his success is getting to ride shotgun on Bo's line.

Like it or not the Sedins still put up better #'s than the majority of this sad sack team and I'm not going to bother to get into arguments like quality of competition but there is another element there as well.
- belcherbd

They are part of the sad sack team. Unfortunately we are waiting for some contract to expire so we can move on from that era. Oh wait they are the contracts we are waiting for.

Baertchi has picked up some points on the PP also and that is my point . Start giving it to them and they will get the points.

Part of the points per 60 min time includes the PP . Maybe a better stat may be the 5 on 5 points , but even that doesn't take accoiunt of how many points come after an icing call.

Taken out of context much? Bo said Burr was the best thing he did for him it doesn't mean anything other than Burr helped him a lot.
- belcherbd

It's not an out of context thing. I'm not saying WD has done nothing for him, I mean he gave him a linemate that could teach him how to play hockey. WD way of teaching is putting someone in the press box or on the end of the bench. Out of 3 seasons WD first season was the only one he has done very good. Bo was the only young player on that team. He had Vets that knew what they were supposed to do. Now he doesn't and the results are showing. Reason why he plays Magma and Chaput, they have been around the league longer.

Guy Boucher said how impressed he was with Burrows being able to watch a bit of game film and understand.