Heh i'm not Freud by any means but all players r built differently.
Coaching is as much to do about the the mental makeup of his players & go from there to get the best from them. Can always tell any player to work on this or work on that but it will come down to the art of communication so the player fully comprehends. Thinking its x's & o's or plug n play is too simplistic of an approach. Bringing out the qualities of any player is the goal & adding to them follows. Character & determination & the hunger to learn will make a player better. Some players r intelligent others r pure talent & many have holes in their game. The student of the game is always working on the details. Players who have to be pushed only go as far as they will til they take ownership. Eg JV learning to be a pro.

Heh i'm not Freud by any means but all players r built differently.
Coaching is as much to do about the the mental makeup of his players & go from there to get the best from them. Can always tell any player to work on this or work on that but it will come down to the art of communication so the player fully comprehends. Thinking its x's & o's or plug n play is too simplistic of an approach. Bringing out the qualities of any player is the goal & adding to them follows. Character & determination & the hunger to learn will make a player better. Some players r intelligent others r pure talent & many have holes in their game. The student of the game is always working on the details. Players who have to be pushed only go as far as they will til they take ownership. Eg JV learning to be a pro.
- Nighthawk

this right here is why Mike Keenan is #8 all time ....he knows how to push buttons

Trevor could teach us all a thing or two and hire Iron Mike and show everybody the act of forgivness

Boeser will be an interesting guy. I wonder if fans will scream if he gets 6 min of TOI?
- VANTEL

or if he struggles his first game hes a bust.

thanks.
that was the joke...
- dbot

Too subtle. It should be bolded, capitalized and preferably underlined as well. Also, if you could explain the joke afterwards, that would be great.

thats not tanking thats developing , and so what do you do when your youth scores and you win games? Bench them?
- onesmallleap

Exactly a rebuilding team moves up. A tanking team stays down to get top picks. Can't be moving in both directions at same time.

The word Fock is sensored
- CanuckDon

Actually, I could care less but you are always a smug dink to everyone else about it.
- Marwood

It's my thing, I have a dry sense of humour in real life

Too subtle. It should be bolded, capitalized and preferably underlined as well. Also, if you could explain the joke afterwards, that would be great.
- CubanBuffet

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......its kind of a secret.....some posters on hockey buzz are not the sharpest tools in the shed.....

Its all about inclusion

We are progressive on the Canucks board

It's my thing, I have a dry sense of humour in real life
- LeftCoaster

Same.

We Know Lefty4U we know
- VANTEL

I don't ramble or speak in some language poorly translated to English

On what you are saying there is a way and plan. Other tankers want that as well. Just wondering what that is and how it looks
- Nuck4U

Google nhl teams that have tanked

Google nhl teams that have tanked
- LeftCoaster

Lefty, Lefty, Lefty, after the fine compliment I gave you this morning, I had to delete a few posts that were a result of an inappropriate post by you.

So while you are keeping her numbers up, you are also bring them down..
- Makita

what did I say??

- Marwood

Exactly a rebuilding team moves up. A tanking team stays down to get top picks. Can't be moving in both directions at same time.
- Nuck4U

another thing to factor in next year is a contract year for the Twins, and if they have a desire to play more it will be on them to prove they still have significant value to their games. Factor that in with the expected progress of our tweeners like Bo , Sven , Grandlund Goldobin, et all , we should expect to see an upswing from this year, and that nots factoring the other teams downturns like LA , Dallas , and others that aren't that deep to begin with

Exactly a rebuilding team moves up. A tanking team stays down to get top picks. Can't be moving in both directions at same time.
- Nuck4U

They're the same thing

You overthink everything, when you're rebuilding you're tanking and when you're tanking you're rebuilding

the team sucks but benning doesn't b/c: 1) it's mg's fault; 2) it's aqalinni's fault; 3) it's linden's fault; 4) it's wd's fault; and 5) it's the sedins' fault.

tanking is a horrible strategy that never works and is dishonorable... except when it's a "stealth" tank which is what jb did last year b/c of course the team's record wasn't his fault.

of course jb couldn't make any moves last year b/c of no trade clauses. of course he couldn't trade players on expiring contracts b/c they were trying to make the playoffs! the fact that jb was able to trade players with NTCs (before this year and at this tdl) doesn't disprove his inability to make trades, it shows his genius.

no need for top end picks b/c every pick that jb makes is going to turn into a top 3 forward or a top pairing dman. the guy he will choose at 10-20 will be as good as the guy he would choose at 5-7.

jb is such a good scout that the guy he wants in the middle part of every round will always be available b/c no other gm knows about that guy. no need to have high picks b/c jb's guy will always be there!

as long as there aren't injuries, this is a playoff contending team and should be a real cup contender in about 3-5 years.

if you disagree with any of this: you're not a real fan of the canucks. go find some other team to cheer for loser!
- RealityChecker

There's no such thing as a stealth tank. GM's trading away players to build assets and ensure a high draft pick is tanking. It's just ridiculous to say tanking doesn't work when two teams that tanked have won the last two cups (and many more besides recently).

As for him picking outside of the top 5 just as well as in it, again this just lacks any rational logic. If JB can pick good prospects with lower first round picks, surely he can pick elite prospects (has a better chance to) if fewer teams have taken players. Are no other teams good at scouting? That's just seems incredibly hard to justify, I dare say impossible.

My favorite part is you determining who "real Canucks fans" are, as if you're the arbiter of this somehow and especially since so much of what you said was so flawed in terms of the logic.

I've never been able to bring myself to cheer for the opponent (I've said it , but when I'm watching these games there no way). The last two wins for example, I wanted the Canucks to lose but really enjoyed how good the young players are as Granlund, Bo and Bae have lead the team. To say that I'm somehow not a fan seems ridiculous to me, seems to me who's not a fan is the fairweather folk who find other teams or stop watching hockey while the Canucks are in decline. I'll continue to support the team, continue to support this team tanking (as JB has done a better job of this year) and cheer for the young guys winning games. None of this will ever make me more or less than a fan than anyone else.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......its kind of a secret.....some posters on hockey buzz are not the sharpest tools in the shed.....

Its all about inclusion

We are progressive on the Canucks board
- WelfareWerewolf

The intellectual bar is getting a little high in here. I hardly ever see any good crayon or paintchip recipes posted anymore.

There's no such thing as a stealth tank. GM's trading away players to build assets and ensure a high draft pick is tanking. It's just ridiculous to say tanking doesn't work when two teams that tanked have won the last two cups (and many more besides recently).

As for him picking outside of the top 5 just as well as in it, again this just lacks any rational logic. If JB can pick good prospects with lower first round picks, surely he can pick elite prospects (has a better chance to) if fewer teams have taken players. Are no other teams good at scouting? That's just seems incredibly hard to justify, I dare say impossible.

My favorite part is you determining who "real Canucks fans" are, as if you're the arbiter of this somehow and especially since so much of what you said was so flawed in terms of the logic.

I've never been able to bring myself to cheer for the opponent (I've said it , but when I'm watching these games there no way). The last two wins for example, I wanted the Canucks to lose but really enjoyed how good the young players are as Granlund, Bo and Bae have lead the team. To say that I'm somehow not a fan seems ridiculous to me, seems to me who's not a fan is the fairweather folk who find other teams or stop watching hockey while the Canucks are in decline. I'll continue to support the team, continue to support this team tanking (as JB has done a better job of this year) and cheer for the young guys winning games. None of this will ever make me more or less than a fan than anyone else.
- neem55

Did you really take that post seriously?

The intellectual bar is getting a little high in here. I hardly ever see any good crayon or paintchip recipes posted anymore.
- CubanBuffet

Only when Don's around.

There's no such thing as a stealth tank. GM's trading away players to build assets and ensure a high draft pick is tanking. It's just ridiculous to say tanking doesn't work when two teams that tanked have won the last two cups (and many more besides recently).

As for him picking outside of the top 5 just as well as in it, again this just lacks any rational logic. If JB can pick good prospects with lower first round picks, surely he can pick elite prospects (has a better chance to) if fewer teams have taken players. Are no other teams good at scouting? That's just seems incredibly hard to justify, I dare say impossible.

My favorite part is you determining who "real Canucks fans" are, as if you're the arbiter of this somehow and especially since so much of what you said was so flawed in terms of the logic.

I've never been able to bring myself to cheer for the opponent (I've said it , but when I'm watching these games there no way). The last two wins for example, I wanted the Canucks to lose but really enjoyed how good the young players are as Granlund, Bo and Bae have lead the team. To say that I'm somehow not a fan seems ridiculous to me, seems to me who's not a fan is the fairweather folk who find other teams or stop watching hockey while the Canucks are in decline. I'll continue to support the team, continue to support this team tanking (as JB has done a better job of this year) and cheer for the young guys winning games. None of this will ever make me more or less than a fan than anyone else.
- neem55

You may have missed the sarcasm. He's just regurgitating a bunch of things that have been said here in the past into one massively stupid post.

There's no such thing as a stealth tank. GM's trading away players to build assets and ensure a high draft pick is tanking. It's just ridiculous to say tanking doesn't work when two teams that tanked have won the last two cups (and many more besides recently).

As for him picking outside of the top 5 just as well as in it, again this just lacks any rational logic. If JB can pick good prospects with lower first round picks, surely he can pick elite prospects (has a better chance to) if fewer teams have taken players. Are no other teams good at scouting? That's just seems incredibly hard to justify, I dare say impossible.

My favorite part is you determining who "real Canucks fans" are, as if you're the arbiter of this somehow and especially since so much of what you said was so flawed in terms of the logic.

I've never been able to bring myself to cheer for the opponent (I've said it , but when I'm watching these games there no way). The last two wins for example, I wanted the Canucks to lose but really enjoyed how good the young players are as Granlund, Bo and Bae have lead the team. To say that I'm somehow not a fan seems ridiculous to me, seems to me who's not a fan is the fairweather folk who find other teams or stop watching hockey while the Canucks are in decline. I'll continue to support the team, continue to support this team tanking (as JB has done a better job of this year) and cheer for the young guys winning games. None of this will ever make me more or less than a fan than anyone else.
- neem55

i believe that's what is referred to as "tongue in cheek"

Google nhl teams that have tanked
- LeftCoaster

It is fine to want to get a top pick .


Hischier Viardi and Patrick are the top three projected Centers and top three picks .What are some of the things that you like more about their game that makes you want to throw away the season.

I find Hischier and Suziki somewhat similar but Suzuki is projected at 25 what are the differences in their game that you see the need to tank?

Middlestadt is projected at 11 and Glass at 16 I think both are excellent picks and have some of the same qualities as the top 3 . Don't you agree?

Canucks are projectd to pick Tovalen at 7-8 but what would you say about Popoguyev Ratcliffe or Heiskanen or Vilimaki?

I am just trying to find out why you think their is such a difference between these rankings when most on here can't find a huge difference.

this right here is why Mike Keenan is #8 all time ....he knows how to push buttons

Trevor could teach us all a thing or two and hire Iron Mike and show everybody the act of forgivness
- onesmallleap

If u can find the buttons its an art form. The best coaches get the most out of players. An iron fist in the pros only goes as far as the make up of the team. A coach like WD seems to have a solid rapport with his players. Jury is out he can lead us til he has a roster that can challenge as a perennial PO team & onto the cup. He made not last that long most likely & if that comes to pass he will have made a significant impression on the youth as his legacy.

Only when Don's around.
- LeftCoaster

Flock off. Is that acceptable?