I can definitely see the tank . Nice job going from 28 to 24 in two days
- VANTEL

wasn't Gostisbehere 3rd rnd? so a better player for the future of the team could have been picked with a higher pick? so why tank? you can , with proper scouting and vision , build a team thru later picks
- onesmallleap

but that is reliant on either luck or other teams' incompetence.

if everyone has "proper scouting and vision," then you definitely need the higher pick.

if you argue (and it's a logical/valid argument) that not everyone has proper scouting and vision, you are just relying on luck (for your desired player to fall).

this model actually relies on more luck than relying on the ping pong balls to fall your way.

can we all get off this notion that anyone is advocating only one thing or the other.

tankers don't say that all you have to do is draft!!! good drafting + good development + good coaching + good complementary players (through trades and free agent signings) = a good chance to becoming a legitimate contender.

i would just like the team to build a young core through the draft. while there are some decent pieces, the team is still multiple impact players away. in my view, the easiest (most probable statistically speaking) way (but certainly not the only way) is through the draft.

there is no one advocating a draft only model.
- RealityChecker

Definitely not. Having higher picks also gives you better prospects (on paper) to trade later on, or to just trade the pick itself. Like if colorado wanted to trade Duchene for Tanev and our first, they might do it if it was top-5. They might be less likely if it's outside of the top-10. I'm not trying to say we should or shouldn't trade the pick, just an example

I can definitely see the tank . Nice job going from 28 to 24 in two days
- VANTEL

Oughta be like pissing in the corn flakes of tank nation 😂😂

IMO Subban is no stud & Weber was.
Poile has searched for years to build his top 6 & lacked the C's to do it.
I'd be the last person to knock Nashvilles way of doing business since day 1.
- Nighthawk

Weber Josi, same thing. It hasn't gotten them anywhere. We've got Juolevi, so let's load up with centres now. No more (frank)ing RW. I'm looking at you Tippett. No more right handed shots either. Lets get a stud left shot centre.

Well his blanket statements don't apply every draft do they?
- Nighthawk

If I had to write a novel to explain my position every time it wouldn't go over well. Thus some information must be inferred.

but that is reliant on either luck or other teams' incompetence.

if everyone has "proper scouting and vision," then you definitely need the higher pick.

if you argue (and it's a logical/valid argument) that not everyone has proper scouting and vision, you are just relying on luck (for your desired player to fall).

this model actually relies on more luck than relying on the ping pong balls to fall your way.
- RealityChecker

That IF if all teams scout the same with vision is why having JB drafting for us gets my vote cuz all teams r not equal.

They were definitely lucky, they didn't finish last but they still won the lottery. They could've picked any kid in the world, who they picked is inconsequential, the fact they could've picked anyone is the important part.

Now I know you're trying to be a smart ass but just because they're incompetent doest mean Benning should be too. Make a better choice.
- LeftCoaster

i am not being a smart ass . i am saying your constant preaching for top 3 picks leaves little hope for a team that is probably going to be 18-24 overall this year and 13-19 IMO next year

i choose to believe there is another way or we can make another way to being successful

Weber Josi, same thing. It hasn't gotten them anywhere. We've got Juolevi, so let's load up with centres now. No more (frank)ing RW. I'm looking at you Tippett. No more right handed shots either. Lets get a stud left shot centre.
- Scooby_Doo

I don't think Juolevi is that high-end D you need to win. If you do, well, much like Vantel, you're just wrong.

In certain years that high draft pick matters.

Benning even said a few weeks back we are confident we will get a very good draft pick within the top twenty.

This is a year to find a good piece of the puzzle not a franchise player
- VANTEL

well now i'm just sounding like a broken record (i'm the only one in this thread) but if benning believes that i still want him having the earliest pick so that he gets his first choice rather than his 4th or 5th choice.

the team isn't going to find a generational player in every draft but i still want them picking the guy that they want.

we've all been in fantasy drafts where the guy you want is picked right before your turn. i don't care if the difference between players is small; i still want benning to get the guy he wants.

If I had to write a novel to explain my position every time it wouldn't go over well. Thus some information must be inferred.
- LeftCoaster

I've never actually believed drafting higher the better is a bad thing.
I just believe the notion sucking to do so makes no sense.
Luck i don't believe in nor rely on it for anything.
I'm all about do what u can with what u have & rise above.

It tells me that top picks are a crap shoot and superstars are in the later rounds. Bad luck or good luck be damned.
- CubanBuffet

There aren't really picks slipping through the crack like that these days though, the league has gotten much better at scouting. What is a recent example of this?

The only one I can think of is Gaudreau, who's size and heart were questioned. Even that was 3rd round. There hasn't been a 5th or 6th round superstar drafted in a long time.

I don't think Juolevi is that high-end D you need to win. If you do, well, much like Vantel, you're just wrong.
- LeftCoaster

Then why did we pick him?

I don't think Juolevi is that high-end D you need to win. If you do, well, much like Vantel, you're just wrong.
- LeftCoaster

i love Shea Weber as much as anyone but without Suter or Josi as side kicks, he probably would have struggled more, maybe Joulevi and Liljegren could be dynamic duo thats leads us to victory

I don't think Juolevi is that high-end D you need to win. If you do, well, much like Vantel, you're just wrong.
- LeftCoaster

Says the guy who is pushing for the tank and probably knows nothing about the top 10 ranked


You lost me tonight when you said you wanted a Stamkos or McDavid in this draft.

That IF if all teams scout the same with vision is why having JB drafting for us gets my vote cuz all teams r not equal.
- Nighthawk

yes, but if you believe that jb has superior vision, you should want him to have the most picks possible and at the earliest possible position.

I don't think Juolevi is that high-end D you need to win. If you do, well, much like Vantel, you're just wrong.
- LeftCoaster

U have a crystal ball? 😂😂
U preach high picks give better chances for success without naming who that is.
Then its onto a 19yr old in Jr's is pigeon holed on what he won't be.
Saying not high end translates to u saying OJ was drafted a bust?

i am not being a smart ass . i am saying your constant preaching for top 3 picks leaves little hope for a team that is probably going to be 18-24 overall this year and 13-19 IMO next year

i choose to believe there is another way or we can make another way to being successful
- onesmallleap

Little hope? That's a complete fabrication. I just said top nine picks are great with me, just so happens the majority of great players now a days come from the top positions.

Weber Josi, same thing. It hasn't gotten them anywhere. We've got Juolevi, so let's load up with centres now. No more (frank)ing RW. I'm looking at you Tippett. No more right handed shots either. Lets get a stud left shot centre.
- Scooby_Doo

It hasn't gotten them anywhere because Nashville can not and will not spend to the cap. Also, they've been in the playoffs 10 of the last 13 seasons (including this year), and are arguably as good as they've ever been right now.

U have a crystal ball? 😂😂
U preach high picks give better chances for success without naming who that is.
Then its onto a 19yr old in Jr's is pigeon holed on what he won't be.
Saying not high end translates to u saying OJ was drafted a bust?
- Nighthawk

That's because they do, that's just a fact.

U have a crystal ball? 😂😂
U preach high picks give better chances for success without naming who that is.
Then its onto a 19yr old in Jr's is pigeon holed on what he won't be.
Saying not high end translates to u saying OJ was drafted a bust?
- Nighthawk

you put a lot of words in my mouth, none of them true however.

It is fine to want to get a top pick .


Hischier Viardi and Patrick are the top three projected Centers and top three picks .What are some of the things that you like more about their game that makes you want to throw away the season.

I find Hischier and Suziki somewhat similar but Suzuki is projected at 25 what are the differences in their game that you see the need to tank?

Middlestadt is projected at 11 and Glass at 16 I think both are excellent picks and have some of the same qualities as the top 3 . Don't you agree?

Canucks are projectd to pick Tovalen at 7-8 but what would you say about Popoguyev Ratcliffe or Heiskanen or Vilimaki?

I am just trying to find out why you think their is such a difference between these rankings when most on here can't find a huge difference.
- VANTEL

Which projections/rankings/mocks are you looking at... Mittelstadt at 11

Says the guy who is pushing for the tank and probably knows nothing about the top 10 ranked


You lost me tonight when you said you wanted a Stamkos or McDavid in this draft.
- VANTEL

News flash we r drafting a number the name will fill itself in automagically.
Its all in the number true to lottery form. 6/49 anyone?

Says the guy who is pushing for the tank and probably knows nothing about the top 10 ranked


You lost me tonight when you said you wanted a Stamkos or McDavid in this draft.
- VANTEL

I never said that...

well now i'm just sounding like a broken record (i'm the only one in this thread) but if benning believes that i still want him having the earliest pick so that he gets his first choice rather than his 4th or 5th choice.

the team isn't going to find a generational player in every draft but i still want them picking the guy that they want.

we've all been in fantasy drafts where the guy you want is picked right before your turn. i don't care if the difference between players is small; i still want benning to get the guy he wants.
- RealityChecker

The thing about this year if you miss getting your guy at # 5 you can get his clone at 16 or 46


You miss Foote at 9 Hague is there at 16 Rasanen at 46