we've missed 2 many good ones to justify it , the shortest distance to travel and a deeper back-roots story on the players , tells me the scouts were negligent in their assessments
- onesmallleap

Scouting staff is on the GM. They go hand in hand & falls on the GM.

He's a good prospect, but not top 10 worthy from what I've seen.
- Nucker101

No one said he was top 10 we said if you had your hopes on Mittelstadt and he was gone you could draft Glass at 16 a similar type

Boeser Gaudette Lockwood
- VANTEL

Yeah, more of those. Even going back further you have Umberger, Hutton, Schneider and Kesler(not sure how many of those same scouts are still with the team though).


Patrick White was the one glaring (frank) up

Tbh for a proven NHLer if possible.
At the time i didn't see how Yak fit in nor the need for him.
Trading down is an option i like in Yaks case
- Nighthawk

I liked Dumba a lot that year, as I watched him play in Red Deer a lot, but he ultimately played himself out of 1st overall contention. It was between Galchenyuk and Yak. Most people argued Murray as a draft option but he wouldn't have really helped anything. To the contrary, the expectations heaped upon a young dman like that in Edmonton at the time would probably have ruined him permanently.
NHL ready dman? Perhaps, but a 1st overall in a relatively weak draft year wouldn't have landed anything top tier.
I dunno. That year sucked. None of the options were overwhelmingly good.

Dan Hamhuis, Paul Martin type imo. Hamhuis was actually a badass in the Dub back in the day, Juolevi is less physical than Hammer, more natural skill though, both smart players.

Those that were never as high as other Canuck fans on Hamhuis/Tanev probably won't love Olli. He plays a very quiet style, he makes some nice stretch passes but that's about it in terms of flash. It's rare to see him throw a hit, rush the push up the ice, etc. He does throw a lot of pucks at the net though, something Tanev is allergic to.
- Nucker101

He's very clinical, calm with his decisions, protects the puck really well and a great puck transition guy. Good skater. Won't knock your socks off though.

we've missed 2 many good ones to justify it , the shortest distance to travel and a deeper back-roots story on the players , tells me the scouts were negligent in their assessments
- onesmallleap

No clue how they haven't cleaned house and tried to poach some better western based scouts...maybe some guys who work with WHL teams that have drafted well. Just change something. The GM makes the final call, but the scouts will always have influence and I don't want these guys continuing to have that influence.

No clue how they haven't cleaned house and tried to poach some better western based scouts...maybe some guys who work with WHL teams that have drafted well. Just change something. The GM makes the final call, but the scouts will always have influence and I don't want these guys continuing to have that influence.
- Nucker101

Canucks are loyal to a fault with the old guard

Canucks are loyal to a fault with the old guard
- LeftCoaster

Would you fire Delorme he is a scary fuk

He's very clinical, calm with his decisions and a great puck transition guy. Good skater. Won't knock your socks off though.
- LeftCoaster

Yeah, but sometimes I'd say he's a bit too passive in his own zone. Needs to be better battling along the walls, clearing the net, etc. You don't have to be the biggest guy to do it. Tanev is far from a physical guy, but he's pretty good at knocking the puck away from forwards during board scrums.

Still a pretty lanky guy so once he fills out it should be easier for him in his own end.

that's kind of the point: the higher you draft, the better the odds you're going to find an impact player without relying on the stupidity of other GMs passing on the guy you want.

simply put, relying on the guy you want to fall to your position is relying on luck.

if you think that one prospect is as good as another b/c who knows if they'll turn out, you're relying on luck.

if you think that jb is a better than average drafter, you should want him to have the biggest pool of players available to him to draft so he doesn't get "unlucky" and have his desired player plucked by a team a couple of spots ahead of him.
- RealityChecker

Thx but tbh i don't get consumed by theoretical draft positions.
After the lotto its draft time & what happens happens.
I don't play the game of gaming the system or believe in luck.
If i were a GM i would be assertive & do what i believe i need.

When i was a poolie & won all i heard was it was luck.
Same when others won. Only thing was injuries that stopped anyone from winning.
Ppl make their own luck & not wait n hope it happens.

Would you fire Delorme he is a scary fuk
- VANTEL

I bet he can still chuck em

Would you fire Delorme he is a scary fuk
- VANTEL

Get Tryamkin to break the news to him

I bet he can still chuck em
- LeftCoaster

I remember Gillis complained about the scouting next day RD gets a promotion

Get Tryamkin to break the news to him
- Nucker101

McEwen and Cramarossa also

Yeah, but sometimes I'd say he's a bit too passive in his own zone. Needs to be better battling along the walls, clearing the net, etc. You don't have to be the biggest guy to do it. Tanev is far from a physical guy, but he's pretty good at knocking the puck away from forwards during board scrums.

Still a pretty lanky guy so once he fills out it should be easier for him in his own end.
- Nucker101

is OJ eligible for the A next year? ed willes wrote that he won't be eligible so he'd have to go back to jr.

does this mean that the team would loan him out to a euro club?

what are your thoughts? would it help his development going to europe or should they wedge him into the nhl? i'm assuming that the ohl would be a waste of time and could possibly be detrimental to his development.

Go full NCAA baby.

The Vancouver Kinda-Canucks
- Nucker101

I am a big fan of the development side of the NCAA and the style they play. The next generation of players is more aware there is a life beyond hockey and unless they expect to be a top prospect, want something to fall back on. Any NCAA freshman that is draft eligible I would give more credit to (like McAvoy last draft), the high school or BCHL type ones are a little more risky but they give you time

Yeah, but sometimes I'd say he's a bit too passive in his own zone. Needs to be better battling along the walls, clearing the net, etc. You don't have to be the biggest guy to do it. Tanev is far from a physical guy, but he's pretty good at knocking the puck away from forwards during board scrums.

Still a pretty lanky guy so once he fills out it should be easier for him in his own end.
- Nucker101

Not a mean guy, you cant teach that. Gaunce is a good example. Either you've got that compete level or you dont.

He'll skate the puck outta trouble.

Then why did we pick him?
- Scooby_Doo

He was Aquilini's choice.

Thx but tbh i don't get consumed by theoretical draft positions.
After the lotto its draft time & what happens happens.
I don't play the game of gaming the system or believe in luck.
If i were a GM i would be assertive & do what i believe i need.

When i was a poolie & won all i heard was it was luck.
Same when others won. Only thing was injuries that stopped anyone from winning.
Ppl make their own luck & not wait n hope it happens.
- Nighthawk

if you squint, your argument could be used by the tankers: you make your own luck.

is OJ eligible for the A next year? ed willes wrote that he won't be eligible so he'd have to go back to jr.

does this mean that the team would loan him out to a euro club?

what are your thoughts? would it help his development going to europe or should they wedge him into the nhl? i'm assuming that the ohl would be a waste of time and could possibly be detrimental to his development.
- RealityChecker

Europe or here no choice , junior is not the right challenge for him now he needs better competition

I remember Gillis complained about the scouting next day RD gets a promotion

- VANTEL

Yeah, more of those. Even going back further you have Umberger, Hutton, Schneider and Kesler(not sure how many of those same scouts are still with the team though).


Patrick White was the one glaring (frank) up
- Nucker101

Any failures on your team(s)?

if you squint, your argument could be used by the tankers: you make your own luck.
- RealityChecker

All about making your own luck.
Lottery aside its the only luck there is.

Europe or here no choice , junior is not the right challenge for him now he needs better competition
- onesmallleap

i agree.

along with the NCAA 4 year ufa rule, the 20 year old AHL rule should be changed. this will be a real conundrum for the team.

does his style change due to the bigger ice surface? geesh, can't anything be easy for this team!

I think he's a Hamhuis, Suter type of player, I never said he was Luke Schenn
- LeftCoaster

Hammer was our best d on our 2011 run. IF we can have that at a younger age and for 10+ years, perfect. Hammer was a solid 1.5. better than a 2 but not quite a 1. Couldn't ask for more outside of a top 3 pick TBH.