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Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Mar 7 @ 11:52 AM ET
Canucks have 4 RHD and 3 LHD . so for that reason I don't see Sbisa being moved until OJ is ready.

I think a RHD gets traded and I don't believe it will be Stecher or Tryamkin.

- VANTEL


Tryamkin is a Lefthanded Defenseman(LHD)that prefers Right Defense(RD).

Sounds like McEneny also prefers the right side as a LHD.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Mar 7 @ 11:52 AM ET
I imagine this year the 6'3 or 6'2 Neill or Olsen will be on the Comets trying for a spot on the club
- VANTEL


I'd be surprised if either of those two make the Comets.
Each has serious holes in their games.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 7 @ 11:53 AM ET
I would think OJ is at least 2 years away.
- Marwood



That is why I don't see Sbisa going anywhere.

I think either Tanev( and NTC July 1) or Gudbrandson (RFA ) gets moved at the draft.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Mar 7 @ 11:53 AM ET
I imagine this year the 6'3 or 6'2 Neill or Olsen will be on the Comets trying for a spot on the club
- VANTEL


Add in Brisebois if hes eligible and I would suspect that 3 of Billins, Shields, Negrin, Nilsson, maybe Robak will open spots for those guys. Just my guess, but I would hope since Canucks control Utica they cut the dead weight there as much as the NHL team
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 7 @ 11:53 AM ET
Smart ass.
From having a sniff at the NHL. I know half the posters in here wanting him playing on the top pairing next year but I don't see any reason to rush.

- Marwood

Absolutely....he's only 18, no need to rush him.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 7 @ 11:54 AM ET
What does he have left to accomplish in junior?
- manvanfan

He won't be eligible for Utica so I don't see him being harmed by doing another year in juniors. He is definitely not ready for the NHL.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 7 @ 11:54 AM ET
What does he have left to accomplish in junior?
- manvanfan


Nothing IMO
Another year in the OHL is of no benefit but the difficulty lies in he either is on our roster or goes back without the AHL as an option. Seems like if he can show well he might be forced onto the Canucks at the cost of maybe Stecher going to Utica.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 7 @ 11:55 AM ET
That is why I don't see Sbisa going anywhere.

I think either Tanev( and NTC July 1) or Gudbrandson (RFA ) gets moved at the draft.

- VANTEL

Tanev is a much better defenceman than Gudbranson, if they want a tough guy knuckledragger just go get one in free agency.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 7 @ 11:55 AM ET
I have to believe it's got to be Tanev. I don't see how it's not Tanev. I can't see them giving up on Tryamkin this early. Gudbranson is needed for physicality. Stecher is much better offensively then Tanev. The three of them make Tanev expendable.
- manvanfan

LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 7 @ 11:56 AM ET
He won't be eligible for Utica so I don't see him being harmed by doing another year in juniors. He is definitely not ready for the NHL.
- Marwood

Maybe get loaned back to Europe.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 7 @ 11:58 AM ET
I have to believe it's got to be Tanev. I don't see how it's not Tanev. I can't see them giving up on Tryamkin this early. Gudbranson is needed for physicality. Stecher is much better offensively then Tanev. The three of them make Tanev expendable.
- manvanfan

Tanev is the best defender they have, without him and Edler it's a train wreck back there, I don't see them getting rid of him.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 7 @ 12:00 PM ET
Tanev is a much better defenceman than Gudbranson, if they want a tough guy knuckledragger just go get one in free agency.
- LeftCoaster


We r fine in the D toughness dept.
Tanev is a great piece to dangle IMO
The chance he is dealt could be very real for the right return.
Stars 1st would maybe be close enough if we r lucky.
Other teams could be suitors as in Arizona & the AV's.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 7 @ 12:00 PM ET
Tanev is a much better defenceman than Gudbranson, if they want a tough guy knuckledragger just go get one in free agency.
- LeftCoaster

Yes we need another NTC so that in three years from now when we try to trade him he says thanks but no thanks
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 7 @ 12:01 PM ET
Tanev is the best defender they have, without him and Edler it's a train wreck back there, I don't see them getting rid of him.
- LeftCoaster



Then you get your top 3 pick
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 7 @ 12:02 PM ET
Maybe get loaned back to Europe.
- LeftCoaster


A better option than Jr where he has nothing to learn.
Wasting a year in London is how i see it if not Europe or doesn't make the Canucks.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Mar 7 @ 12:03 PM ET
Great, so flip him for someone who can fill a hole on our NHL roster. You can find dozens of Jordan Subban-type players begging for an AHL roster spot. We have more than enough offensive defensemen in the system and they're all currently and probably will always be ahead of Subban.
- DariusKnight


I think there is a bit of exaggeration in this post.

1) If you can find dozens of Subban-types, then how can you flip AHL talent to fill an NHL hole? Seems to go against supply and demand

2) Can you have enough offensive defensemen? They seem to be a premium these days

3) Who do we have that would be considered better offensively? Only Neill has better junior numbers than Subban did (and not sure if you want to discount it for being in the QMJHL). Also he has let the Comets D in scoring the entire time he has been there
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 7 @ 12:03 PM ET
Then you get your top 3 pick
- VANTEL


U tell him lol
Doesn't like getting what he has been clamouring for?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 7 @ 12:05 PM ET
I think there is a bit of exaggeration in this post.

1) If you can find dozens of Subban-types, then how can you flip AHL talent to fill an NHL hole? Seems to go against supply and demand

2) Can you have enough offensive defensemen? They seem to be a premium these days

3) Who do we have that would be considered better offensively? Only Neill has better junior numbers than Subban did (and not sure if you want to discount it for being in the QMJHL). Also he has let the Comets D in scoring the entire time he has been there

- WhiteLie



2) only if NHL calibre yes
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Mar 7 @ 12:06 PM ET
Maybe get loaned back to Europe.
- LeftCoaster


Still has to be offered back to London 1st. I believe 8.7 (a) of CBA.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 7 @ 12:06 PM ET
I think there is a bit of exaggeration in this post.

1) If you can find dozens of Subban-types, then how can you flip AHL talent to fill an NHL hole? Seems to go against supply and demand

2) Can you have enough offensive defensemen? They seem to be a premium these days

3) Who do we have that would be considered better offensively? Only Neill has better junior numbers than Subban did (and not sure if you want to discount it for being in the QMJHL). Also he has let the Comets D in scoring the entire time he has been there

- WhiteLie



Not aimed at you .

I find it funny that there is so much anger and print over a player that has not played one regulation NHL second.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 7 @ 12:10 PM ET
Tanev is the best defender they have, without him and Edler it's a train wreck back there, I don't see them getting rid of him.
- LeftCoaster

He is by far the best defensive defenceman Van has. He can't score though. He isn't physical enough to clear the front of the net. Van doesn't have that top end D guy to score 50 points a season to allow Tanev to play his defensive game. It's more about creating an equal defence as a whole unit.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 7 @ 12:11 PM ET
Then you get your top 3 pick
- VANTEL

I'd rather they lose like they are now, somewhat in games, did you see the Colorado game the other night against Winnipeg...that was just embarrassing and deflating for the players. I don't want that.

There's bad, and then there's really bad.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Mar 7 @ 12:15 PM ET
Not aimed at you .

I find it funny that there is so much anger and print over a player that has not played one regulation NHL second.

- VANTEL



You started it

If he had a different last name, I am sure there would be a lot less print about him
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 7 @ 12:16 PM ET
A better option than Jr where he has nothing to learn.
Wasting a year in London is how i see it if not Europe or doesn't make the Canucks.

- Nighthawk

I am with you. Loaned to europe to play against men better then going back to Jr. I wonder if he will get picked to play in the world ice hockey championship in May to see how he does against men.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 7 @ 12:18 PM ET
Still has to be offered back to London 1st. I believe 8.7 (a) of CBA.
- Reubenkincade

They simply decline, been done before.
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