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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 7 @ 1:53 PM ET
Subban is exempt so if you are saying him plus fourth traded to protect Sbisa plus Guance then Vegas has to pick someone else. Like DD...?
- Nuck4U



Nope you are wrong. They take Subban as their selection agreed by the Canucks and that is the one player that goes to Vegas.

To guide the LVK to that selection Canucks agree to trade a fourth round pick for future consideration.

Each team only loses one player
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 7 @ 1:54 PM ET
Because Edler is 30 years old, I'd be much more inclined to move him during this rebuilding phase. Probably has higher value as well.
- LeftCoaster

You think Edler has higher value than Tanev?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 7 @ 1:56 PM ET
No, not a good example.
- LeftCoaster



Well who are all these UFA Dmen that cost 1 mill and can play under this system ?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 7 @ 1:57 PM ET
Well who are all these UFA Dmen that cost 1 mill and can play under this system ?
- VANTEL

Any stay at home type of physical 5/6 dman, there's tons of them out there.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Mar 7 @ 1:58 PM ET
Only because of an "agreement" to share, not because they actually do.

And I know (assume) you wouldn't know this, why would you, you've probably never been here. But, the companies that do business up here, do so under the most stringent policies in the world! Canada produces the cleanest oil in the world.

When they remove the overburden (soil) above the oil sands, they extract the oil and reclaim the land back to where you'd never know an extraction process existed there.

Nature left oil deposits here that rise to the surface during the summer and create puddles that animals get trapped in, it naturally runs off into lakes and streams and rivers polluting them, blame nature/God for that, not the oil companies.

- LeftCoaster


Using the CAPP argument i see...ight.
You certainly would know more on the subject then I however, there's no denying that its a pretty controversial project, judging simply by the amount of blow-back it receives.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 7 @ 2:00 PM ET
Using the CAPP argument i see...ight.
You certainly would know more on the subject then I however, there's no denying that its a pretty controversial project, judging simply by the amount of blow-back it receives.

- Whiskey-Tango

There's a lot of misinformation or just plain ignorance on the subject.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 7 @ 2:00 PM ET
Projecting prospects is challenging. Some are late bloomers and some peak early. Some show they have talent and some get exposed for lack of talent. I think we can assume that OJ will be better than Subban, but I am not convinced Brisebois will be more than just another mediocre shutdown defender.

One projection site that compares player stats has Subban 33% chance at NHL player, while Brisebois only has 17%. One has more comparables due to size than the other, but highlights that they both still have a ways to go

- WhiteLie


While I agree that it's extremely challenging projecting prospects, Brisebois is a much higher end prospect at this point. Size, skating and high IQ. Subban is an extreme longshot.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 7 @ 2:01 PM ET
Any stay at home type of physical 5/6 dman, there's tons of them out there.
- LeftCoaster



Sbisa is playing 3/4 not 5/6 and makes 3.6



I just looked at the list of free agents . I will stick with Sbisa for a few more years thanks
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Mar 7 @ 2:01 PM ET
Well who are all these UFA Dmen that cost 1 mill and can play under this system ?
- VANTEL

Mark Fayne is available next year.
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Mar 7 @ 2:02 PM ET
Greetings,

Tryamkin's back, Goldobin stays on the second line and Trevor's non-committal about Willie. Oh, and the Habs are on a hot streak as they touch down for tonight's game.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...-streak-vs-Habs/194/83579
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 7 @ 2:03 PM ET
Sbisa is playing 3/4 not 5/6 and makes 3.6



I just looked at the list of free agents . I will stick with Sbisa for a few more years thanks

- VANTEL

He's playing on a poopty team, all we need is a stop-gap guy.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Mar 7 @ 2:04 PM ET
Sbisa is playing 3/4 not 5/6 and makes 3.6



I just looked at the list of free agents . I will stick with Sbisa for a few more years thanks

- VANTEL

No love for Alzner?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 7 @ 2:04 PM ET
Mark Fayne is available next year.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

Ferrence too
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Mar 7 @ 2:04 PM ET
There's a lot of misinformation or just plain ignorance on the subject.
- LeftCoaster

there's a lot of irony here.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Mar 7 @ 2:06 PM ET
Ferrence too
- VANTEL

Yes. Both have publicly declared that they have always wanted to be Canucks.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 7 @ 2:07 PM ET
No love for Alzner?
- TheTaoOfSemenko



Do you think he is getting 2.8 net year?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 7 @ 2:08 PM ET
He's playing on a poopty team, all we need is a stop-gap guy.
- LeftCoaster



A stop gap guy like Sbisa who is affordable , fits in well and knows the system?
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Mar 7 @ 2:09 PM ET
Do you think he is getting 2.8 net year?
- VANTEL

He'll probably want at least 3 but he'll want term for sure. He'll sign with whoever is willing to give him 6+ years.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 7 @ 2:10 PM ET
He'll probably want at least 3 but he'll want term for sure. He'll sign with whoever is willing to give him 6+ years.
- TheTaoOfSemenko



He will probably want about 3.5 and term and we need a LHD for about 2-3 years only
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Mar 7 @ 2:12 PM ET
He will probably want about 3.5 and term and we need a LHD for about 2-3 years only
- VANTEL

Not sure I would even want him to tell you the truth. We're finally in a position of assets on D and there's no need for him.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 7 @ 2:13 PM ET
Not sure I would even want him to tell you the truth. We're finally in a position of assets on D and there's no need for him.
- TheTaoOfSemenko



Some team will pay , but not the Canucks
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Mar 7 @ 2:15 PM ET
Some team will pay , but not the Canucks
- VANTEL

Not with the prizes of Fayne and Ference on the horizon.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 7 @ 2:24 PM ET
Look how well it worked for JV and mcaan not going back to Jr
- Bullfrog77


JV & McCann r not OJ.
OJ forces his way onto the team or if not then its whether its Europe or Jr's.
Europe wins out & SHL division 1 is optimum
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 7 @ 2:27 PM ET
So you do agree with Benning's strategy of remaining competitive?

This might be a game by game compete and not a playoff compete but it is remaining competitive.

- Reubenkincade


Maybe competitive is in the context of play hard for 60mins game in n game out.
WIn or lose is not the foremost priority as long as there is good signs of growth.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 7 @ 2:39 PM ET
Projecting prospects is challenging. Some are late bloomers and some peak early. Some show they have talent and some get exposed for lack of talent. I think we can assume that OJ will be better than Subban, but I am not convinced Brisebois will be more than just another mediocre shutdown defender.

One projection site that compares player stats has Subban 33% chance at NHL player, while Brisebois only has 17%. One has more comparables due to size than the other, but highlights that they both still have a ways to go

- WhiteLie



Projecting is an inexact science for sure. If JB can supply a roster that has some veterans to keep the team even keeled & the D is a strong and marinated group it allows youths opportunity to excel & be insulated. Opening up the offence is one thing but better off if the D can withstand the hiccups. So resign Miller for a nice 1yr deal to give next season solid tending so the youths mistakes r not confidence killers. Its that Marky isn't that 60-65 starter yet. Rather not experiment in goal thinking next year is key in the new core really takeover & grab the reigns. Sedins or not the kids will be expected to be even better. Winger depth next year is looking like a ton of competition & the skill to go with it.
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