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Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Mar 8 @ 11:17 AM ET
Bo, Sven, Loui, Hank,Daniel, Granlund, Sutter, all protected.
Goldobin, Boeser, Gaudette, Virtanen & Labate vying for 6 remaining jobs along with our 1st round pick also included.
Gaunce if not taken in expansion also on this list making it 8 forwards, with 5 remaining positions.
I would think Labate is a lock if he has a decent training camp (waiver eligible) & I honestly do not believe any decent young players will slip past Vegas when sending down to minors as I believe that players such as labate, Pedan will be taken as they may be better options for Vegas than what teams like NJ, Toronto & Arizona offer through expansion draft.The team may have to have them on the 23 man roster to avoid losing them.
Back to the forwards, 4 positions remain, assuming they want to get some more youth regularly into lineup they keep 2 of the remaining group, 1 spot will be reserved for a Dorsett/Cramarossa type leaving possibly 1 position open for a Megna,Chaput or Skille. Of those 3 Chaput being younger and able to play Centre would make the most sense.IMO.

Apologies for the novel.

- Reubenkincade


IF they keep WD then probably all waiver exempt players will be playing on the Comets to start the season. Then just wait for injuries. Only rookie they will keep up is OJ. As a 6/7 D to slowly work into pros.

So yeah they will likely resign Chaput, Megna, Skille. Keep Boucher and Cram as well with DD.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 8 @ 11:20 AM ET



That 9 game winless streak was just a season killer

- WhiteLie

Interesting that some forwards took steps forward but others took steps back. Almost the same amount of injuries. Still preforming the same.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 8 @ 11:24 AM ET
Washington has signed 3 undrafted players.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Mar 8 @ 11:27 AM ET
Washington has signed 3 undrafted players.
- manvanfan


You would think that the franchises that are super deep in all positions, that NCAA or CHL free agents would try and sign on a team that has less depth (for a better chance at securing at job at the NHL level).
WhiteLie
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Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Mar 8 @ 11:27 AM ET
Interesting that some forwards took steps forward but others took steps back. Almost the same amount of injuries. Still preforming the same.
- manvanfan


I am pleased that it was the older guys that regressed and the young players took the step forward (as it should be). The future would look very bleak if the Sedins had a rejuvenated season and Horvat/Sven/Granlund stumbled
WhiteLie
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Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Mar 8 @ 11:30 AM ET
You would think that the franchises that are super deep in all positions, that NCAA or CHL free agents would try and sign on a team that has less depth (for a better chance at securing at job at the NHL level).
- Codes1087


Depends on whats promised to them, but Chicago has done a good job landing some in the past couple years because they need the cheap bodies under the cap and can offer them good linemates to boost their future value
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Mar 8 @ 11:31 AM ET

He works hard, but man does he look like he lacks scoring confidence. The one good chance he had was an ugly sweeping shot on net, just awkward


- WhiteLie



Perhaps that part will come. He can score in AHL but he hasn't found the confidence to slow the game down for him to get the right shot off to score in the NHL. In some ways he might be like Hansen without the speed but size. It took him a while to get confidence there while being a good defensive forward.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Mar 8 @ 11:32 AM ET
Depends on whats promised to them, but Chicago has done a good job landing some in the past couple years because they need the cheap bodies under the cap and can offer them good linemates to boost their future value
- WhiteLie


I guess it really depends on what the franchise offers, because what you said makes sense. CHI has so much $ invested in so many players, that signing these kids to play along side the guys who make big money makes sense for their cap.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 8 @ 11:33 AM ET
You would think that the franchises that are super deep in all positions, that NCAA or CHL free agents would try and sign on a team that has less depth (for a better chance at securing at job at the NHL level).
- Codes1087

What Whitelie said down there too.

A chance to win the stanley cup and play with all-star players. A lot of the kids will never see an NHL game so the first contract they are offered is taken.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 8 @ 11:35 AM ET
I am pleased that it was the older guys that regressed and the young players took the step forward (as it should be). The future would look very bleak if the Sedins had a rejuvenated season and Horvat/Sven/Granlund stumbled
- WhiteLie



Ya it went the way it should. I wish the Sedin's weren't declining at the pace they are. Unless they have a bit of a bounce back year next season then I can't see them being resigned.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 8 @ 11:36 AM ET
Perhaps that part will come. He can score in AHL but he hasn't found the confidence to slow the game down for him to get the right shot off to score in the NHL. In some ways he might be like Hansen without the speed but size. It took him a while to get confidence there while being a good defensive forward.
- Nuck4U

He's becoming more steady. Just needs 1.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Mar 8 @ 11:43 AM ET

He works hard, but man does he look like he lacks scoring confidence. The one good chance he had was an ugly sweeping shot on net, just awkward


- WhiteLie


yeah that pretty much sums it up -

BTW, that shot reminds me of 80% of the dudes in my beer league
WhiteLie
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Mar 8 @ 11:44 AM ET
I guess it really depends on what the franchise offers, because what you said makes sense. CHI has so much $ invested in so many players, that signing these kids to play along side the guys who make big money makes sense for their cap.
- Codes1087


Its smart on Chi too, sign a decent NCAA/Euro kid, play him with Toews/Hossa, Kane/Panarin, let the rack up points and sell high. As long as that core is going strong they can manufacture assets
WhiteLie
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Mar 8 @ 11:47 AM ET
yeah that pretty much sums it up -

BTW, that shot reminds me of 80% of the dudes in my beer league

- Brooks_Light


Yes! Thats why I posted it, it just looked so bad and awkward, like a first timer haha

I think he was maybe trying to look off Price but was poorly poorly executed
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Mar 8 @ 11:47 AM ET
I guess it really depends on what the franchise offers, because what you said makes sense. CHI has so much $ invested in so many players, that signing these kids to play along side the guys who make big money makes sense for their cap.
- Codes1087



Pens can do same as well. But here's the rub the NCAA guy's that are free agents usually went undrafted. Thus would still be a project and risk for these top teams to develop. Where as a bottom team can offer more spots and time to make it. Being NHL ready is not an easy transition. Look at Stecher. He only got his break because of injuries to a unimpressive D unit. On a contender how would that work?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Mar 8 @ 11:50 AM ET
Pens can do same as well. But here's the rub the NCAA guy's that are free agents usually went undrafted. Thus would still be a project and risk for these top teams to develop. Where as a bottom team can offer more spots and time to make it. Being NHL ready is not an easy transition. Look at Stecher. He only got his break because of injuries to a unimpressive D unit. On a contender how would that work?
- Nuck4U


that's the point I was getting at, when looking at the opposite end of the spectrum, NCAA have a better shot of making a team that lacks depth. You are bound to make a ton more money, playing at the highest level of competition signing with a team that is really lacking. I see both sides, I guess it just surprises me more when NCAA or CHL free agents opt to sign with cup contenders as opposed to teams that lacking.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Mar 8 @ 12:01 PM ET
Yes! Thats why I posted it, it just looked so bad and awkward, like a first timer haha

I think he was maybe trying to look off Price but was poorly poorly executed

- WhiteLie


I'm so glad you posted it - plus compare that play to when Granlund scored on an identical play the on the weekend, Gaunce is kinda heartbreaking, cus I don't believe if he "gets a few" its gonna change anything. I hate to harp on the guy, bcus he does have some of the tools, but its the NHL, and that's just not good enough. I think after 75 games its fair to give someone else a shot, but I admit I'm a broken record on this topic.
WhiteLie
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Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
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Mar 8 @ 12:10 PM ET
I'm so glad you posted it - plus compare that play to when Granlund scored on an identical play the on the weekend, Gaunce is kinda heartbreaking, cus I don't believe if he "gets a few" its gonna change anything. I hate to harp on the guy, bcus he does have some of the tools, but its the NHL, and that's just not good enough. I think after 75 games its fair to give someone else a shot, but I admit I'm a broken record on this topic.
- Brooks_Light


Agreed, the fact Granlund had the same situation and executed it well highlights the difference between them. I see Gaunce as being a good 4th liner, who can PK well and disrupt plays but will be offensively challenged.

I also dont think getting a few will change much either, to me he just doesnt look very comfortable with the puck on his stick and will probably mostly get ugly/grinding goals in his career
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Mar 8 @ 12:28 PM ET
I saw he had chances. Highlights don't show most of the play though.
- manvanfan

you missed the point....i was mocking the coach for benching him
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 8 @ 12:34 PM ET
you missed the point....i was mocking the coach for benching him
- SMBDragon

nobody hates WD more then me.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 8 @ 12:37 PM ET
Pens can do same as well. But here's the rub the NCAA guy's that are free agents usually went undrafted. Thus would still be a project and risk for these top teams to develop. Where as a bottom team can offer more spots and time to make it. Being NHL ready is not an easy transition. Look at Stecher. He only got his break because of injuries to a unimpressive D unit. On a contender how would that work?
- Nuck4U

It wouldn't, he's not really that good, he should be in the minors or 6-7 dman.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Mar 8 @ 12:38 PM ET
nobody hates WD more then me.
- manvanfan

Im pretty far up on the meter myself.

thats why I said he probably did something like take the puck to the net to earn his benching....willie doesnt like like it when you shoot on net instead of dumping it in the corner
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Mar 8 @ 12:39 PM ET
Washington has signed 3 undrafted players.
- manvanfan


Any word on who?
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Mar 8 @ 12:43 PM ET
It wouldn't, he's not really that good, he should be in the minors or 6-7 dman.
- Makita


That's a little harsh...
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 8 @ 12:47 PM ET
Man I really, really hope they sign Willie to a 5 year extension just so we can have a daily dose of Willie hate, Willie whining, Willie b!tching, Willie moaning, I know better than Willie, Willie has a funny mustache, Willie has a facial tick thing, oh have you heard I'm not a fan of Willie..
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