Looks like we are gonna pick about 8th again
6th at best
Unless we get lucky & move up in the lotto
- jdfitz77

How do you know that when we haven't even had the lottery yet.

How do you know that when we haven't even had the lottery yet.
- mhp

So you are saying I still have a shot at that 403 million?

So you are saying I still have a shot at that 403 million?
- rapperray

ha ha morning Ray, how are you bud?

The Bears are paying Glennon $14.5 million???

Yeah, Tyrod looks better and better this morning

This team wouldn't be in this damn (frank)ing mess and there would be no re-build if Pegula cleaned house (Ruff and Regier) when he bought the team in 2011. (frank) I hate re-builds.

ha ha morning Ray, how are you bud?
- mhp

Doin great MH... How about you?

This team wouldn't be in this damn (frank)ing mess and there would be no re-build if Pegula cleaned house (Ruff and Regier) when he bought the team in 2011. (frank) I hate re-builds.
- mhp

The Sabres "rebuild" is kind of like building a cabin out of Pixy Sticks. They just keep falling down and you just get nowhere...

This team wouldn't be in this damn (frank)ing mess and there would be no re-build if Pegula cleaned house (Ruff and Regier) when he bought the team in 2011. (frank) I hate re-builds.
- mhp

This team was heading in that direction no matter what. It was the best thing to happen to this team. Our 1C went from Roy to Eichel.

Doin great MH... How about you?
- rapperray

All is good Ray. When are you retiring?

The Sabres "rebuild" is kind of like building a cabin out of Pixy Sticks. They just keep falling down and you just get nowhere...
- rapperray

I'm just too old to be going through another losing season.

This team was heading in that direction no matter what. It was the best thing to happen to this team. Our 1C went from Roy to Eichel.
- Sabresfan-365

Unfortunately Eichel can't play center on 4 lines or the wings on 4 lines or defense or Goalie........ Seems like the Sabres have very serious problems to me...

I'm just too old to be going through another losing season.
- mhp

You know MH... I still have to say the quality of play in the NHL overall sucks. Compare todays game to the game of the 70's or early 80's..... Todays NHL is plain old garbage and the sad thing is that it could be easily fixed...

Unfortunately Eichel can't play center on 4 lines or the wings on 4 lines or defense or Goalie........ Seems like the Sabres have very serious problems to me...
- rapperray

i agree i just think mhp is going after the wrong mgmt group

This team was heading in that direction no matter what. It was the best thing to happen to this team. Our 1C went from Roy to Eichel.
- Sabresfan-365

Meh just ranting over all the losing. But I do wish Pegula fired both when he took over. If he did we would probably be in a better position today. Too many variables to think if Darcy was fired back then as to how the team would look and who is running it.

You know MH... I still have to say the quality of play in the NHL overall sucks. Compare todays game to the game of the 70's or early 80's..... Todays NHL is plain old garbage and the sad thing is that it could be easily fixed...
- rapperray

I agree Ray. Today the NHL is a watered down league and to top it off we'll have another team added next year, which will make the product even worse.

We both remember those days and the hockey was exciting on a nightly basis.

i agree i just think mhp is going after the wrong mgmt group
- Sabresfan-365

I see...... The frustration just keeps growing no matter what the cause I guess..... You know what I hate though... "POTENTIAL"....Only because the Sabres have supposedly been loaded with it for years but it has yet to result in success on the ice...

I see...... The frustration just keeps growing no matter what the cause I guess..... You know what I hate though... "POTENTIAL"....Only because the Sabres have supposedly been loaded with it for years but it has yet to result in success on the ice...
- rapperray

you're half right ray...we WERE loaded with it. Now we have Lehner and Bogosian

I agree Ray. Today the NHL is a watered down league and to top it off we'll have another team added next year, which will make the product even worse.

We both remember those days and the hockey was exciting on a nightly basis.
- mhp

I would give anything to be able to sit down and watch one of those classic Sabre Canadiens games... The play was so fast the camera guys could hardly keep up.... That was talent and that was hockey...

i agree i just think mhp is going after the wrong mgmt group
- Sabresfan-365

I hated the Regier days especially toward the end and this group and what Murray has done, especially with the D. He needs to make the right moves this summer.

Meh just ranting over all the losing. But I do wish Pegula fired both when he took over. If he did we would probably be in a better position today. Too many variables to think if Darcy was fired back then as to how the team would look and who is running it.
- mhp

It's possible. But like 365 said, they were heading in this direction anyway, so I'm not sure how much further ahead they'd be now. Maybe a year.

All I know is that I love having Eichel on this team. It's too bad the rest of the team needs some work.

you're half right ray...we WERE loaded with it. Now we have Lehner and Bogosian
- Sabresfan-365

I am glad you mentioned Lehner... There was a time when the Sabres had quality goaltending throughout the organization... Not so much any more...

It's possible. But like 365 said, they were heading in this direction anyway, so I'm not sure how much further ahead they'd be now. Maybe a year.

All I know is that I love having Eichel on this team. It's too bad the rest of the team needs some work.
- HonkFortheGoose

Some work?

you're half right ray...we WERE loaded with it. Now we have Lehner and Bogosian
- Sabresfan-365

Lehner may not have had the best outing the other day, but overall, he's not the issue. That game easily could have been out of control by the end of the 1st, but instead it was tied 1-1.

Are there areas I'd like him to be better? Yes. But overall is he the problem? Definitely not.

[quote=rapperray] Just can't help but shake my head in disbelief about the Sabres...A team mired in sub mediocrity with it's tires spinning uncontrollably in 3 feet of mud..... :no


It is becoming very alarming.
Coach
-deploys such a complicated system that he has many of his players so confused, still nearly 2 years in...begs the question of should you deploy a system that fits your players skill, or force the players to fit into said system.
- makes very questionable line combinations
- plays lower skilled players Obote their talent level
- plays young promising players on 4 line, stifling their development

Players
- apparently revolting, to the point one wonders if they are playing crappy to get the coach fired
Seem incapable of playing well under pressure, seem to wilt when money games are on the line

GM
Seriously misjudged the skill, hockey IQ of several Dmen he brought in
May have jeopardized the rebuild by rushing it...debatable to be sure
Either misjudged his coach if he selected him, or wasn't able to pushback on Ownersip if he was directed to land said coach.

I seriously question if this team will get to the promised land...many challenges to overcome.
Some bright spots as well...need a lot more.

Some work?
- rapperray

Depends on the day and what team decides to show up.

There's a lot more talent on this team than they like to make it look like at times. That's not to say that there isn't plenty of work that needs to be done, but they shouldn't be this bad either, IMO.