If we are ever going to get a lotto win this is hopefully the year. Next year I think the top 7 players or so are supposed to be as good or better than the top two this year.

Canucks can only loose out so many times... I hope
- mauryballstein

Top 5 and we good.

But look at who is available at the moment. Makes it tough to think that another year of lousy player deployment is good for us. They say he is a good teacher.... are others not?
- Beatle_john

I don't see the point in getting rid of the good development coach we have, just to get another development coach. Especially if we are in for another year or 2 of pain, where the new guy would just end up getting the boot before we are competitive

No wonder you guys are poopty...


http://www.torontosun.com...-canucks-drinking-culture
- Iggysbff

Toronto Sun....were the informed Canuck fan gets his news........


Try harder.......

I don't see the point in getting rid of the good development coach we have, just to get another development coach. Especially if we are in for another year or 2 of pain, where the new guy would just end up getting the boot before we are competitive
- NorthNuck

May as well bring willie back for a season if he isnt fighting with benning over player development. And im not a fan of him at all. Just so many coaches over the last few years...

old news troll.
- dbot

It's pretty hilarious that it's been picked up by CBC and Toronto Star

How do you know? What can you base that on?
- Nuck4U

They have a first line, for one thing.

You said that people were calling for the Islanders to rebuild, players couldnt hack it anymore, then they changed coaches and now are in the wildcard hunt.

Retinalz said they have a much better team than us, it
- WhiteLie[Vancouver's situation] is more than a coaching change.

You questioned proof, to which I gave you. They are in a win now mode, they had success the past few seasons and need to show Tavares thats the direction if they want to persuade him to stay around. Vancouver couldnt contend with Babcock, Q, Hitch, Bowman and Arbour behind the bench at the same time time

Been saying all this time the Isles are in a win now. That they will make moves off-season to have JT resign. They would have traded with Avs by TDL if they weren't also asking for a top 4 D which they need to make playoffs.

Anyway, my question was about effect of coaching change. Not if Isles had better stats then the Nucks.

I think Nolan Patrick still goes #1.
Odds are we aren't picking the 1st OA, but that's who i'd take.

Big C that we need. Huge Ceiling, could be a great 1-2 with Bo.
He returned from his injury Jan. 13, and in 23 games has 34 points (14 goals, 20 assists) and is a plus-7. He has 42 points (18 goals, 24 assists) and is a plus-10 in 28 games this season.

No brainer.
- dbot

He is the overwhelming favorite.
But... http://hfboards.hockeysfu.../showthread.php?t=2160133
Bit of a problem.
Hirshier IMO

#top5pick

Been saying all this time the Isles are in a win now. That they will make moves off-season to have JT resign. They would have traded with Avs by TDL if they weren't also asking for a top 4 D which they need to make playoffs.

Anyway, my question was about effect of coaching change. Not if Isles had better stats then the Nucks.
- Nuck4U

except for when you directly challenged whether the Isles really are better than the canucks.

Very bizarre list...I certainly hope we don't end up with Rasmussen
- CanuckDon

Don't know much about Rasmussen, but I hate the "take him cause he's local theory." It's JV all over again.

I just want one of Nico, Patrick, Vilardi, Pettersson or Mittelstad. To much to ask? I suppose I am ok with Tippet as well (reluctantly)
- CanuckDon

Tolvanen before Petersson.

Don't know much about Rasmussen, but I hate the "take him cause he's local theory." It's JV all over again.

- we_are_all_canucks

Liljegren at that spot. Or Middlestadt.
Hopefully we pick top3 and it wont matter

you lost me...

I had said that I can see the reasoning why Benning kept Miller, given the injury to Markstrom in the superskills and the lack of market for goalies at the TDL. And you say "no one made an offer on Miller". I am asking for proof to your statement. I said that Benning likely kept Miller in good faith as he has made multiple public comments about resigning him. And to your last sentence, I don't know that Benning got offers and DIDN'T move him, I have not heard that. That is why I am asking for proof. I have no idea why the kept Miller, but I stated that I can see why they kept him IF that is what they were planning the entire time.
- Codes1087

That's what it sounded like you were saying. So fine if you got nothing on that.

Moving on to the next point I guess you wanted to talk about is if JB should sign Miller.

Well maybe look at it like this. What's best for Demko. Another year with Comets with a better group of players. Plus, a season where Marky is given at least equal to or more starts to be the guy.

So should Miller be the other goalie, why not, if the price and term is right.

except for when you directly challenged whether the Isles really are better than the canucks.

- neem55

That's not how it was meant. I followed that up. So on you.

Don't know much about Rasmussen, but I hate the "take him cause he's local theory." It's JV all over again.

- we_are_all_canucks

Rasmussen appears to be pretty one dimensional. PP specialist. no thanks. we need a prospect than can drive offense

Been saying all this time the Isles are in a win now. That they will make moves off-season to have JT resign. They would have traded with Avs by TDL if they weren't also asking for a top 4 D which they need to make playoffs.

Anyway, my question was about effect of coaching change. Not if Isles had better stats then the Nucks.
- Nuck4U

There wasnt a question:

It's funny how before the coaching change the Isles were bottom of the East and being told to sell for a rebuild again. Now they are in a wild card spot. Same players that couldn't hack it before. Interesting huh

Given the discussion about Canuck coaching, you seemed to be indicating Vancouver with their same aging players might have a similar results had they pulled the trigger. The Sedin's are 36 and been top line all year, the only players over 35 on the Islanders are depth (Siedenberg and Chimera), not the same situation and would not have had the same impact

except for when you directly challenged whether the Isles really are better than the canucks.

- neem55

Wow!!!
Why bother with these circle talkers?

Tolvanen before Petersson.

- we_are_all_canucks

Any particular reason?

Don't know much about Rasmussen, but I hate the "take him cause he's local theory." It's JV all over again.

- we_are_all_canucks

I think it has become more of "don't take him, he is a local & we tried that once in our history and that player is a bust".

The kid is 6'5" over 200 lbs. Has good hands, respected by his teammates and coaches alike.
Scored 15 of his 32 goals on power-play, is feisty when needed.

Nah... we don't want him because he isn't shiny enough for this fan base.

This fan would take him.

He may be done for season though, as he has been out several games with a wrist injury...BUST

Tanev for bogosian and buffalo's 1st
I saw this on HF boards today, love it!
what do y'all think?

Any particular reason?
- DrChristianTroy

Speedy and can change direction with the puck at high speed, not overly big but hard to knock off the puck, shoot first type, good accuracy. A sniper.

I know we need help at centre, and if we pick top 5 that's where I would go. But if we pick around 6-10, then go for the BPA, and that's what I think he is.

Speedy and can change direction with the puck at high speed, not overly big but hard to knock off the puck, shoot first type, good accuracy. A sniper.

I know we need help at centre, and if we pick top 5 that's where I would go. But if we pick around 6-10, then go for the BPA, and that's what I think he is.
- we_are_all_canucks

I like this reasoning, but there is a good chance the BPA is still a center in the 6-10 spot with Necas and middlestadt out there gaining ground. Also, seems Tippett is quite the snipe too. I haven't watched Tolvenen, just some food for thought.

I think it has become more of "don't take him, he is a local & we tried that once in our history and that player is a bust".

The kid is 6'5" over 200 lbs. Has good hands, respected by his teammates and coaches alike.
Scored 15 of his 32 goals on power-play, is feisty when needed.

Nah... we don't want him because he isn't shiny enough for this fan base.

This fan would take him.

He may be done for season though, as he has been out several games with a wrist injury...BUST
- Reubenkincade

Like I said, I don't really know enough about him; he's big and he's a centre, all good. But is he a Martin Hanzel or a Jim Sandlak?

I just don't want where he's from to impact the decision process, and I think the Canucks let that influence their decision to take JV and not someone like Nylander or Ehlers.

I like this reasoning, but there is a good chance the BPA is still a center in the 6-10 spot with Necas and middlestadt out there gaining ground. Also, seems Tippett is quite the snipe too. I haven't watched Tolvenen, just some food for thought.
- neem55

I suspect he is top 5. Would not mind Middlestadt or Necas either. We do need to draft scoring ability though. Tolvanen is committed to BC next season, so likely 2-3 years away from the NHL.

Speedy and can change direction with the puck at high speed, not overly big but hard to knock off the puck, shoot first type, good accuracy. A sniper.

I know we need help at centre, and if we pick top 5 that's where I would go. But if we pick around 6-10, then go for the BPA, and that's what I think he is.
- we_are_all_canucks

I'm just really high on Pettersson... Guess I'll have to watch more Tolvanen.