radulov would be the perfect winger for Giroux

radulov would be the perfect winger for Giroux
- Flyers Time

Galchenyuk + 1st + 2nd in 2018


Done

Galchenyuk + 1st + 2nd in 2018


Done
- Nucker101

habs laugh

habs laugh
- Flyers Time

Don't underestimate the power of the french connection

Face it boys, we're lottery bound and probably picking 10-12.
- BiggE

It's just a bias because people love Simmonds. He's always been a guy that collects most of his points on the PP. He's very good in front of the net and that's a valuable asset. He's just not a game changer at even strength. He never really has been. He's probably better than Schenn at even strength, but not by a lot.

Over the past 3 years

ESP/60
Schenn 1.45
Simmonds 1.52

Simmonds has the slight edge in possession too.
- PhillySportsGuy

Speaking of a bias and a false narrative. Going back 5 seasons, Simmonds has scored 116 5 on 5 points, and 101 points on the PP.

Schenn does give effort. He's just not good at even strength. He never has been.

I don't understand why people seem to think because a guy isn't good means he's not giving effort.
- PhillySportsGuy

Disagree. Schenn was top 60 among NHL forwards in 5 on 5 point production last year.

Speaking of a bias and a false narrative. Going back 5 seasons, Simmonds has scored 116 5 on 5 points, and 101 points on the PP.
- MJL

Sorry. A disproportionate number.

Disagree. Schenn was top 60 among NHL forwards in 5 on 5 point production last year.
- MJL

Is he top 60 this year or in any year prior to last?

The thing about points is they always need context. 50 point today is basically low end 1st line.

Couturier does not get PP1 time (and there's maybe only a few consistent 50+ guys in the league without PP1 time), and the PP2 has been a mess for a long time. Finally he's in front of the net because the coach had an epiphany we've had for years and moved him there. And the PP2 looks better now, and the personnel is improved, everyone going to their proper spots. Even so, all you can hope for is 10-12 PP points a year on the second unit, and his career high is 7, I believe. So, in order to hit 50, we're talking about scoring almost 40 ES points. That's not 2nd line levels. That's elite first line levels, top 20-25 in the league for all players, and #1 center scoring. So, that's what people ACTUALLY want from him. It sounds almost ridiculous when you actually break it down and don't just arbitrarily throw out numbers. But that's what he did last year, barring time missed, and that was probably as close to max capacity as he can run at 2 points per game 5v5. And it's a fact all the best players on the team score more with him than apart.

It's just like Provorov will never touch Norris Trophy level scoring (40+) without seeing PP1 time. He's a beast 5v5 scorer this year, but it's just not possible without PP1 time. But everyone loves Provorov and calls him a #1 because he matches against top lines, scores well 5v5, leads the PK, and can hopefully outscore his opponents in spite of that usage. Sounds familiar.
- Mononoke

The coach didn't have an epiphany "we've had for years"! LOL. They added Filppula and gave the coach another player and play maker he could insert into the second unit.

Is he top 60 this year or in any year prior to last?
- BiggE

Currently 286 this year and not even close any other year. I think around 150 in one other year.

Is he top 60 this year or in any year prior to last?
- BiggE

Doesn't matter, the poster said "he never has been" good at 5 on 5 play.

Guys, Bellemare scored a goal that one time, so if you say he doesn't contribute offensively, yaw

Doesn't matter, the poster said "he never has been" good at 5 on 5 play.
- MJL

You, as always, are ridiculously literal. The posters POINT was that Schenn and Simmonds are not top notch ES scorers. This is a fact and it's illustrates one of the teams biggest weaknesses: they aren't good enough at ES. And yes, I know they lit up Buffalo at ES the other night, but that's one game and doesn't change the underlying issue. Until the Flyers play consistently better at ES, they will never be more than a bubble team.

Guys, Bellemare scored a goal that one time, so if you say he doesn't contribute offensively, yaw
- PhillySportsGuy

You, as always, are ridiculously literal. The posters POINT was that Schenn and Simmonds are not top notch ES scorers. This is a fact and it's illustrates one of the teams biggest weaknesses: they aren't good enough at ES. And yes, I know they lit up Buffalo at ES the other night, but that's one game and doesn't change the underlying issue. Until the Flyers play consistently better at ES, they will never be more than a bubble team.
- BiggE

No, you're just replying this way based on who is posting. The poster was simply wrong, and I pointed it out. Schenn had a solid season and was a good player at 5 on 5 last season. That is a fact. So saying that he has never been a good player 5 on 5 is incorrect. Discussing the Flyers 5 on 5 play as a team, is a different discussion. I agree with you that they have to be a better 5 on 5 team.

The coach didn't have an epiphany "we've had for years"! LOL. They added Filppula and gave the coach another player and play maker he could insert into the second unit.
- MJL

No they chose to play him in a role he was ill suited for. Filppula is on the other half wall that Coots never played. Sorry but he should have always been in front and that's what we have wanted for a while. They experimented with it before Flip earlier and just abandoned it too for some reason. Anyone can see Coots is a net front player. But the coach was right to play him on the wall. As always. And now he's right to put him in front.

- ob18

Knew you were pro tank

No they chose to play him in a role he was ill suited for. Filppula is on the other half wall that Coots never played. Sorry but he should have always been in front and that's what we have wanted for a while. They experimented with it before Flip earlier and just abandoned it too for some reason. Anyone can see Coots is a net front player. But the coach was right to play him on the wall. As always. And now he's right to put him in front.
- Mononoke

Doesn't matter what wall Filppula played on compared to Couturier, you need a distributor of the puck on the half wall. It's a question of having the personnel and being open minded to know that while putting a player in a certain spot might not be ideal for that player, that's going to happen on a team that has limited talent and has it's 4 best forwards offensively stacked on the first unit PP, but there has to be a continuing narrative that the coach doesn't know what he is doing but "we" do!

No they chose to play him in a role he was ill suited for. Filppula is on the other half wall that Coots never played. Sorry but he should have always been in front and that's what we have wanted for a while. They experimented with it before Flip earlier and just abandoned it too for some reason. Anyone can see Coots is a net front player. But the coach was right to play him on the wall. As always. And now he's right to put him in front.
- Mononoke

You should try arguing with a brick wall, you'll have much better luck

For the record, I would never respect a team that intentionally loses for a full season or more.

It's that simple, and I'm sticking to it.
- jmatchett383

Hahahahah. You're a closet Penquin syncophant

You should try arguing with a brick wall, you'll have much better luck
- BiggE

- Landsbergfan

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Not going to lie ....was hoping for something else with this gif

Knew you were pro tank
- Mononoke

watching kane and pannarin play hockey