Again who are you tanking for? Nolan Patrick? Nico Hischier?

Edmonton has been in the lottery for years and only showing to be a competent team because they were able to land McDavid.

Same with the Leafs in getting Matthews.

Where's Buffalo? They have been acquiring assets for a couple years now. Are they any better then Philadelphia?
- J35Bacher

Edmonton did NOTHING except draft.

I'd trust the Flyers scouting more than that of the sabres. Refuse to sell off pieces to better the future? Too proud? Wish to waste time on guys like Fil to try and make those wonderful playoffs? Fine.

Continue to watch your forward core age with hopes that boys like Lindblom save the day.

The plan is not directly to tank. It's admitting that your forward core is nowhere near good enough and won't be when this teams D prospects are ready.

Sabres were deliberately shooting for rebounds and most were in areas he could handle. Two of the goals were heavily screened and one was deflected. It was a strong game for Mason. As for fatigue, the team has not a heavy schedule lately. They even had a total off-day on Sunday.

Plain and simple, Hakstol played a hunch last night that Neuvirth would crank out a gem with a vote of confidence in a crucial game.
- bmeltzer

I don't think it matters much who this team has in goal right now.

They aren't good. They huff and puff to generate offense. They are actually pretty tough to watch.

I mean, it would have been great if Neuvirth (or whoever) stood on their head. But if you absolutely need that sort of game just to get into the playoffs, that says alot about the constitution of the team.

The organization as a whole seems to favor Neuvirth over Mason, which I don't agree with, or understand. That they didn't even have contract talks with Mason is puzzling. What do they know that we don't?
- MJL

Good question. We'll probably not find out, but there is definitely something going on with him and the team.

They are doing a rebuild.

Next year they will probably have 2 new defenseman and also new forward depth.

Not every rebuild needs to be a strip it down to bare bones.

Who's to say they don't look to move a couple guys this offseason and make a change in the core.
- J35Bacher

Don't fool yourself that this is a rebuild.

It's the same old 're tool' nonsense. This deadline showed you exactly that.

Don't fool yourself that this is a rebuild.

It's the same old 're tool' nonsense. This deadline showed you exactly that.
- flyer_nutter

Deadline showed me what?

It takes two teams to make a trade.

What info do you have that they turned down trades that they could have made?

Good question. We'll probably not find out, but there is definitely something going on with him and the team.
- Scoob

I wonder if it's not even about Mason or Neuvirth.

Could it be that maybe the Flyers feel someone in Lehigh Valley is ready?

Deadline showed me what?

It takes two teams to make a trade.

What info do you have that they turned down trades that they could have made?
- J35Bacher

Do you believe the Flyers 3games ago were more concerned about making the playoffs or getting some ice time for the youth/bettering their draft position?

Do you believe the Flyers 3games ago were more concerned about making the playoffs or getting some ice time for the youth/bettering their draft position?
- flyer_nutter

I believe the Flyers are trying to build a winning culture from Lehigh Valley up.

Yes. They were still trying to make the playoffs.

No. They aren't bringing any youth up.

But I don't want them to bring youth up. I would rather them compete for a Calder Cup.

Do you believe the Flyers 3games ago were more concerned about making the playoffs or getting some ice time for the youth/bettering their draft position?
- flyer_nutter

Making the playoffs because that is their goal every year and they were still technically in the hunt

I wonder if it's not even about Mason or Neuvirth.

Could it be that maybe the Flyers feel someone in Lehigh Valley is ready?
- J35Bacher

Well, if that's the case that someone should be with the team and playing.

Ahhh I need to drop this poop.

They will do what they do as an organization. If they continue this trend for years there will be a purge just like the Leafs head and the country club may finally come to an end.

Hopefully some of the boys rebound next season and the club can find some high talent level forwards in other means. One can hope.

Deadline showed me what?

It takes two teams to make a trade.

What info do you have that they turned down trades that they could have made?
- J35Bacher

There will be no answer to these questions.

Making the playoffs because that is their goal every year and they were still technically in the hunt
- Streit2ThePoint

Don't for a second forget that, even if the Flyers get two home playoff games, they still reap the benefits of that extra revenue.

Well, if that's the case that someone should be with the team and playing.
- Scoob

I don't think so.

I think playing games in Lehigh Valley, trying to win there is beneficial. Playing in those playoffs will be good for both Lyon and Stolarz or whoever plays.

Plus right now Mason and Neuvirth are both healthy. Might as well play them.

I don' t think so, I think they ensured they meet the goalie requirements for the waiver draft..I don't think they are settled on one over the other...They could more likely move in another direction as well and pick up a guy like Miller...but I do not think they signed Neuvy because they think he is the guy over Mason.
- JW98FlyerFan

Cap space and ED certainty are big issues. People don't like the raise Neuvirth got, including me. But if you give that same percentage raise to Mason, his cap hit jumps to $6.3m.

I think you're right about this, but then I think Hakstol should of rested Mason and played Neuvirth against Buffalo, and then Mason last night. Mason has been the better goalie lately, and he should've played in the more important head to head matchup with Toronto.
- MJL

We agree!

Making the playoffs because that is their goal every year and they were still technically in the hunt
- Streit2ThePoint

To me the goal should be to win a cup, and build a club in the view of that.

Not simply on 'making the playoffs'.

What's more valuable, a first round knockout? Or picking 7th instead of 12th and some more ice time for your youth.

For those that would say not much difference between 7 and 12, I'd point at the clubs current #1 dman.

Alas, next topic haha.

Trade Read/Schenn
Let Vandevelde go to FA
Trade Del Zotto
Resign Schultz on the cheap
Trade/sign a true top line left winger
Trade/sign Bishop/Fleury
- Streit2ThePoint

To me the goal should be to win a cup, and build a club in the view of that.

Not simply on 'making the playoffs'.

What's more valuable, a first round knockout? Or picking 7th instead of 12th and some more ice time for your youth.

For those that would say not much difference between 7 and 12, I'd point at the clubs current #1 dman.

Alas, next topic haha.
- flyer_nutter

Well no poop Sherlock, that's the goal of every team. You have to make the playoffs first though. Baby steps

Refusing to fully rebuild.

Welcome to mediocrity land where drafting 12th gets you the stars of the future.

(frank)ing poopshow.
- flyer_nutter

No room for that. Embrace the suck, become a company man!

- PhillySportsGuy

I'll miss my baby boy Read

It's kind of a relief to be honest.

Even with last night as a win they would have had to win like 93% of their final games to get in. Now I can just enjoy the Flyers hockey left in the year and watch other fun games and not worry myself over the flyguys making it. Nice to not have that stress this Spring.

To me the goal should be to win a cup, and build a club in the view of that.

Not simply on 'making the playoffs'.

What's more valuable, a first round knockout? Or picking 7th instead of 12th and some more ice time for your youth.

For those that would say not much difference between 7 and 12, I'd point at the clubs current #1 dman.

Alas, next topic haha.
- flyer_nutter

Whats more important,

Developing a winning mentality, playing as hard as possible every night, and having a chance to have the younger guys get a taste of the playoffs, or moving up 5 spots in a weak draft.

I know that in order to build a successful team you need a lot more than just draft picks. You need to learn how to navigate the ups and downs of a season. You needs to have a win at all costs mentality. Thats why I am fully behind whats going on.

Speaking of clown and pathetic...
- dragonoffrost

One of these seasons he will break 40 points and skate like he doesn't have a piano on his back. I'm guessing the 2021 season.

Don't for a second forget that, even if the Flyers get two home playoff games, they still reap the benefits of that extra revenue.
- johndewar

Yup.

Not all teams operate under the premise of maximizing your chances to win a cup eventually