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Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Mar 12 @ 5:34 PM ET
I know it's a cop-out, but i think the strategy will be BPA.
Similar to last year, when PLD and the top forwards were taken, JB selected OJ.
If the top fwds are gone when JB picks this year, i wouldn't be surprised if he takes a D again. Similarly, if a top fwd is still available, we grab him.

- dbot


I don't think drafting OJ was taking the BPA ...he wasn't even the top D in many scouts lists ...he was the guy benning wanted so he took him
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 12 @ 5:34 PM ET
5-0 Comets 4 minutes left
- VANTEL

SHUT OUT!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 12 @ 5:34 PM ET
21 shot shutout for Demko his second in 7 games, and he is 7-0 in the last seven games.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 12 @ 5:35 PM ET
I don't think drafting OJ was taking the BPA ...he wasn't even the top D in many scouts lists ...he was the guy benning wanted so he took him
- Redmile247

Don't know where you got that from but sure. Benning knew that D is needed sooner then later.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Mar 12 @ 5:38 PM ET
So I guess i'm just disturbing poop by saying this. I just say whatever to it and it doesn't mean a lot from a professional stand point. ANYWAYS!

I got my father tickets to Flames vs Jets on Saturday. He's a flames fan.

Anyways, asked him how the game was and he said to me "the best player Calgary has is that Tkachuk kid." "He's going to be a real good player"

OJ better step it up and help Van win a cup.

- manvanfan


Tkachuk has been beyond good this year ...no one could have projected this ....it's easy to critique not picking him but isn't really fair at this point
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Mar 12 @ 5:41 PM ET
Man... you guys were seriously undermanned. I mean, it's not like the Pens are missing: Letang, Hornqvist, Hagelin, Cullen, Rust, Maatta and had to only dress 11 forward last second, two being call-ups and two call-ups on defense... Geez.

Also, here's my thought on that first goal being disallowed. I had a long conversation about this because I initially thought it should have been allowed. I promise I'm totally being non-homer.

1) Being in the crease BEFORE the puck which is a big part of this rule.

2) The "push" is subjective. He wasn't "pushed" until after the puck went through Murray's pads. They entered the crease together without being forced there.

#2 is the point people will argue back and forth, but I had two friends (a philly and rangers fan, so clearly bias TOWARD the Pens) and they both said he was not pushed in the crease. He was heading right for it.

- Rinosaur

We don't have a Crosby, or a Malkin, or a Kessel.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Mar 12 @ 5:42 PM ET
Don't know where you got that from but sure. Benning knew that D is needed sooner then later.
- manvanfan


Got it from TV, podcasts, etc ....no one is saying it was a bad pick or the wrong pick ...just that they could have picked a couple different D if they wanted one ...not exactly BPA approach
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Mar 12 @ 5:43 PM ET
We don't have a Crosby, or a Malkin, or a Kessel.
- Retinalz


I know you don't. I don't mean this as a dig, but the Pens are by far the better team even when BOTH teams are 100% healthy. My point is using that undermanned excuse is silly when the Pens, regardless of Sid or Geno, are missing major players.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Mar 12 @ 5:47 PM ET
I know you don't. I don't mean this as a dig, but the Pens are by far the better team even when BOTH teams are 100% healthy. My point is using that undermanned excuse is silly when the Pens, regardless of Sid or Geno, are missing major players.
- Rinosaur


when u have generational players in the line up still.. yes we will use that as an excuse

if gaunce was playing we would won 7-0!
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Mar 12 @ 5:49 PM ET
Watching Gatineau play MacEwen looks very good but bottom 6
- VANTEL

Basically a 5th rounder for free if he ends up as a 4th liner.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Mar 12 @ 5:50 PM ET
I know you don't. I don't mean this as a dig, but the Pens are by far the better team even when BOTH teams are 100% healthy. My point is using that undermanned excuse is silly when the Pens, regardless of Sid or Geno, are missing major players.
- Rinosaur

Without Sid or Malkin or Letang the teams are similar I'd say. But you have those 3 so that is a major factor.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Mar 12 @ 5:53 PM ET
Without Sid or Malkin or Letang the teams are similar I'd say. But you have those 3 so that is a major factor.
- Retinalz


Well you can say thought about plenty of teams.

If the Caps didn't have Ovie, Backstrom or Carlson, they'd be simliar to you.

If CHI didn't have Toews, Kane or Keith, they'd be similar to you.

thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Mar 12 @ 5:53 PM ET
Without Sid or Malkin or Letang the teams are similar I'd say. But you have those 3 so that is a major factor.
- Retinalz

Yeah but they have Schultz and Bonino so...
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 12 @ 5:55 PM ET
Well you can say thought about plenty of teams.

If the Caps didn't have Ovie, Backstrom or Carlson, they'd be simliar to you.

If CHI didn't have Toews, Kane or Keith, they'd be similar to you.

- Rinosaur

What's your point? Penguins are good, Canucks are bad. Are you done now?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Mar 12 @ 5:56 PM ET
What's your point? Penguins are good, Canucks are bad. Are you done now?
- CanuckDon


No. My point is the undermanned excuse was silly.
WelfareWerewolf
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 10.08.2015

Mar 12 @ 5:58 PM ET
Yeah but they have Schultz and Bonino so...
- thundachunk



Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Mar 12 @ 5:58 PM ET
https://twitter.com/DhaliwalSports/status/840983910204882944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

more warm bodies

- onesmallleap


Hope it's Healey.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Mar 12 @ 5:59 PM ET
No. My point is the undermanned excuse was silly.
- Rinosaur


No, we don't need an excuse, our team blows.
You beat a horrible team.

Good for you
You feel better now?
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Mar 12 @ 6:00 PM ET
Well you can say thought about plenty of teams.

If the Caps didn't have Ovie, Backstrom or Carlson, they'd be simliar to you.

If CHI didn't have Toews, Kane or Keith, they'd be similar to you.

- Rinosaur

Exactly, realistically we are a team with has some nice pieces coming up the pipe. But we really need a sure thing to come along.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Mar 12 @ 6:00 PM ET
door is open for hadwin!
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Mar 12 @ 6:00 PM ET

- WelfareWerewolf

Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Mar 12 @ 6:00 PM ET
No, we don't need an excuse, our team blows.
You beat a horrible team.

Good for you
You feel better now?

- Whiskey-Tango


It's ok. I expect CGY to do a number on us tomorrow.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Mar 12 @ 6:03 PM ET
It's ok. I expect CGY to do a number on us tomorrow.
- Rinosaur


We are due for a loss ....hope your right though
WelfareWerewolf
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 10.08.2015

Mar 12 @ 6:04 PM ET
We are due for a loss ....hope your right though
- Redmile247


Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Mar 12 @ 6:10 PM ET

- WelfareWerewolf


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