That's the problem I'm okay with benching I'm on your side but it seems that he's just going after him
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Maybe he is!!!

I'm wondering if that's a bad a thing though?
Don't we all agree that Jack needs to be better defensively?
Might as well hammer it home now,
Since we aren't making the playoffs this year anyways

Okay, I'll bite. I told you I wasn't going to respond to you anymore, but what about that statement, in particular, was me talking out of my ass?

How about this. You do research before you post. You utilize personal experience in coming to conclusions.

FACT: The MINIMUM salary in the AHL is 42k a year.

FACT: The age when a US Citizen is considered to be an INDEPENDENT STUDENT is, go figure, 24 years of age. Where my number came from.

FACT: Most college degrees earned these days are Associates Degrees and Bachelor's following. 2 and 4 year degrees.

FACT: Most college grads NOW, cannot find work in their Field. Even when they do, an adjunct professor for example, makes an average of $20,000.00 a year, if that. And that's even when they have a Master's Degree.

Most end up serving tables, bartending, working in factories... Which creates job competition in places where there wasn't before; said factories being the place this is most apparent. So it's effectively removing the working-class or "unskilled" laborer, forcing them into the service jobs which then forces the service workers into welfare which creates a very vicious circle of competitive job environments and poverty.

So an NCAA player has a few choices. Jack Eichel is an anomaly. Most college players, if drafted, would be eligible for the AHL, if I'm not mistaken. They are usually middle-class already when they're hockey players. They can choose to make around 50k a year as a young adult and work hard to try and earn an NHL roster spot and get the big money

-or-

They can finish a 4-year degree, stay an extra 2 and try to get their Master's and then make a choice between possibly and probably being in the AHL, now at the age of 24 and making 50k a year or to enter the job market and make the same amount with no room to advance compared to the difference in salary between AHL/NHL and say, Merrill Lynch or JP Morgan and the salary being entirely dependent on who you know and where you go. Merrill Lynch in Binghmaton, for example, is NOT paying what Merrill Lynch in New York City is paying.

And that person who's been trying to do it the RIGHT way by staying in college and getting this education this country farcically values, who is now considered an Independent Student and a "full-fledged" adult now has to be pretty much owned by a professional club that drafted him 6 years earlier and is most likely going to bury them in the minors for some period of time? Yet in every other facet of life is told he has the freedom to choose?

Right.
- BeadyEyedDouche

#PegulasFault

Am i right?!
if only he spent his billions fixing education...

I would settle for a button



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- cabin

Lol...

Thoughts on Bylsma using the rest of this season to really drill it into Jack that he has to be more responsible defensively?

I think it makes sense

Lol...

Thoughts on Bylsma using the rest of this season to really drill it into Jack that he has to be more responsible defensively?

I think it makes sense
- jdfitz77

Why not ? Kills bad habits . Better to get them out of the way sooner than later.

Maybe they shouldn't major in English or philosophy or phys ed, but for those that get 4 year degrees in engineering or other sciences earn a good deal of money. Sure, you might have to move, but there's money to be made on a 4 year degree right out of school.
- Wetbandit1

Well. Even if a person completes just a 4-year engineering degree, the entry level salary for a Computer Engineer, for example, is somewhere between 60k-80k. But like you said, you have to move elsewhere to find that job... Usually NYC, LA, Silicon Valley... And all of those places you pretty much have to half anyone's salary to get an idea of how not well off they are. The cost of rent and living usually means those people are living in a literal closet or worse, their vehicle, all the while working massive amounts of unpaid overtime since they're going to be on salary and terribly exploited. A lot of them work 60+ hours a week, a surprising amount are homeless and most of them are hardly living paycheck to paycheck themselves.

So they earn money, but they certainly do not enjoy it. I've met quite a few engineering students when I was living in Binghamton... They're usually raging alcoholics, too. I've had the room mates to know...

#PegulasFault

Am i right?!
if only he spent his billions fixing education...
- jdfitz77

I think this is stemming back to a Sabres89 comment I laughed at, even if he and I came from a different perspective as to the funniness of the joke.

It was funny because people in Buffalo have universally praised him for saving their crappy sports teams from moving, all the while acting like the guy single-handedly saved Buffalo from the edge of Hell.

And in the meantime, those teams have continued to suck. And the Harbor went from like a 3/10 to a 5/10 at most. A Hotel... A new catering service... And a ice facility attached to an ice facility attached to an ice facility with an outdoor, seasonal ice facility. That's what he's done.

I've been trying to find other information on his investments and all these jobs he's created according to you and a couple others on here. There's literally next to nothing outside the Harbor Center.

Buffalo was on an upswing when he bought the Sabres. Anyone could see it. It was small but noticeable. Pegula got the bulk of the credit and the attention, yet has only bought our sports teams and made a gaudy Hotel complex attached to the arena. It looks hideous from an architectural standpoint. But the mentality surrounding having a Billionaire in Buffalo has made from some pretentious sugar-coating of a town that is too massively depopulated to sustain it's newfound burden.

Okay, I'll bite. I told you I wasn't going to respond to you anymore, but what about that statement, in particular, was me talking out of my ass?

How about this. You do research before you post. You utilize personal experience in coming to conclusions.

FACT: The MINIMUM salary in the AHL is 42k a year.

FACT: The age when a US Citizen is considered to be an INDEPENDENT STUDENT is, go figure, 24 years of age. Where my number came from.

FACT: Most college degrees earned these days are Associates Degrees and Bachelor's following. 2 and 4 year degrees.

FACT: Most college grads NOW, cannot find work in their Field. Even when they do, an adjunct professor for example, makes an average of $20,000.00 a year, if that. And that's even when they have a Master's Degree.

Most end up serving tables, bartending, working in factories... Which creates job competition in places where there wasn't before; said factories being the place this is most apparent. So it's effectively removing the working-class or "unskilled" laborer, forcing them into the service jobs which then forces the service workers into welfare which creates a very vicious circle of competitive job environments and poverty.

So an NCAA player has a few choices. Jack Eichel is an anomaly. Most college players, if drafted, would be eligible for the AHL, if I'm not mistaken. They are usually middle-class already when they're hockey players. They can choose to make around 50k a year as a young adult and work hard to try and earn an NHL roster spot and get the big money

-or-

They can finish a 4-year degree, stay an extra 2 and try to get their Master's and then make a choice between possibly and probably being in the AHL, now at the age of 24 and making 50k a year or to enter the job market and make the same amount with no room to advance compared to the difference in salary between AHL/NHL and say, Merrill Lynch or JP Morgan and the salary being entirely dependent on who you know and where you go. Merrill Lynch in Binghmaton, for example, is NOT paying what Merrill Lynch in New York City is paying.

And that person who's been trying to do it the RIGHT way by staying in college and getting this education this country farcically values, who is now considered an Independent Student and a "full-fledged" adult now has to be pretty much owned by a professional club that drafted him 6 years earlier and is most likely going to bury them in the minors for some period of time? Yet in every other facet of life is told he has the freedom to choose?

Right.
- BeadyEyedDouche

OK Einstein, you want to drop the gloves, let's go:

A) I didn't say anything about "that particular statement." I said "A lot of what you say." From you, the response to this shortcoming would be something witty like "Reading Comprehension."

B) A lot of what you write in this post is pure bullpoop, which is to say generalities (derived from your own limited experience) that are at the same time both over-inclusive and under-inclusive, which you tie in some loose causal relationship to wider societal tendencies.

C) Leaving aside all the rest of the pure bullpoop in your post - I'll take one example. Anybody with a modicum of understanding regarding the challenges faced by US factories right now understands that competition for factory work doesn't come from college educated US citizens displacing the more traditional "unskilled" force. It comes instead from the globalization of commerce, and the rapid advance of technology displacing all human workers.

D) So, in this post, as in "a lot of what you say" you made it about a third of the way before - as in "a lot of what you say" - your mistaken belief that "hey I'm a pretty smart guy" got in the way of a meaningful contribution to the thread. And that is "talking out your ass."

So (frank) off DOUCHE. All that "talking out your ass" is cluttering up the thread, giving everybody else a pain in the ass, and just getting in the way of our good time talking hockey. So (frank) off. Please.

Well. Even if a person completes just a 4-year engineering degree, the entry level salary for a Computer Engineer, for example, is somewhere between 60k-80k. But like you said, you have to move elsewhere to find that job... Usually NYC, LA, Silicon Valley... And all of those places you pretty much have to half anyone's salary to get an idea of how not well off they are. The cost of rent and living usually means those people are living in a literal closet or worse, their vehicle, all the while working massive amounts of unpaid overtime since they're going to be on salary and terribly exploited. A lot of them work 60+ hours a week, a surprising amount are homeless and most of them are hardly living paycheck to paycheck themselves.

So they earn money, but they certainly do not enjoy it. I've met quite a few engineering students when I was living in Binghamton... They're usually raging alcoholics, too. I've had the room mates to know...
- BeadyEyedDouche

There are more jobs than people to fill them in this country. The problem isn't that there are no jobs the problem is one of qualification. That's why companies hire foreigners to fill their engineering and computer jobs.

https://www.glassdoor.com...=C&locId=1131887&jobType=


1,094 engineer jobs in Buffalo. The vast majority of the ones I saw with pay at least in the $40s, most in the $60s and some up into the $100s.

That's just engineering. That's not necessarily computer related jobs that a lot of times only require a one year certification and can easily make into the $60s. Not to mention all the other categories of job that make decent money, like Physical Therapy assistant, 2 year degree, salary in the $50s to start. In Buffalo.

Again, it's not a question of if the jobs are there it's a question of idiots getting English degrees wondering why they can't find a job.

Or, better yet, learn a (frank)ing trade, pour some concrete, they do actually make really good money. Again, here in Buffalo, don't even have to move, there's always construction going on. My cousin is a glazier and hasn't been laid off in many years. My step-brother is a tin knocker, same deal he's always working.

Ok I hated the gaming chair that I bought to use as a computer chair, I have now taken it back and bought yet another computer chair. Walked into Sams Club and brought the chair back that I already assembled because i'm a moron.

Ok I hated the gaming chair that I bought to use as a computer chair, I have now taken it back and bought yet another computer chair. Walked into Sams Club and brought the chair back that I already assembled because i'm a moron.
- SABRES 89

Way better than the posts that seem like little girls complaining cause their new first thong feels weird .

thank you 89

sorry your dumb ass bought the same chair . hope you resolve it .

Ok I hated the gaming chair that I bought to use as a computer chair, I have now taken it back and bought yet another computer chair. Walked into Sams Club and brought the chair back that I already assembled because i'm a moron.
- SABRES 89

Did they not have one for you to sit in before you bought it?

Did they not have one for you to sit in before you bought it?
- Wetbandit1

Well, some homeless guy with a four year degree in computer science and a mountain of debt who hadn't yet become an INDEPENDENT STUDENT and wasn't able to get a job in his FIELD sold it to him, and because he didn't know what the (frank) he was talking about he was just talking out his ass and resulted in a total poopty time for SABRES89

- cabin

Deshawn shead visiting the bills. This would be a significant signing and signify buffalo is probably going with Davis or Howard at 1-10.

Now you're saying it's Pegula's fault there aren't more white collar jobs?!

Yet u say u liked what Buffalo was...
well, we're a blue collar town
This isn't Silicon Valley

And building the Harbor center certainly doesn't prevent a company like Apple, or IBM, or blah blah blah company that would create the White Collar jobs that would be in DIRECT CONTRAST to the supposed Buffalo that you love more than everyone else

Good grief
If only u could see how contradictory you sound

But I can tell u think you're the smartest one in the room...
so keep on believing
Thing is, u might actually be the smartest person in your room
But I bet it's pretty lonely there since most ppl don't wanna be around someone so bitter looking down from their high horse

At least you're a legend in your own mind though
- jdfitz77

You mean I've been dethroned?

You mean I've been dethroned?
- buffalofan19

Pssssst. It was never you.

But it's kinda funny that you make that mistake.

OK Einstein, you want to drop the gloves, let's go:

A) I didn't say anything about "that particular statement." I said "A lot of what you say." From you, the response to this shortcoming would be something witty like "Reading Comprehension."

B) A lot of what you write in this post is pure bullpoop, which is to say generalities (derived from your own limited experience) that are at the same time both over-inclusive and under-inclusive, which you tie in some loose causal relationship to wider societal tendencies.

C) Leaving aside all the rest of the pure bullpoop in your post - I'll take one example. Anybody with a modicum of understanding regarding the challenges faced by US factories right now understands that competition for factory work doesn't come from college educated US citizens displacing the more traditional "unskilled" force. It comes instead from the globalization of commerce, and the rapid advance of technology displacing all human workers.

D) So, in this post, as in "a lot of what you say" you made it about a third of the way before - as in "a lot of what you say" - your mistaken belief that "hey I'm a pretty smart guy" got in the way of a meaningful contribution to the thread. And that is "talking out your ass."

So (frank) off DOUCHE. All that "talking out your ass" is cluttering up the thread, giving everybody else a pain in the ass, and just getting in the way of our good time talking hockey. So (frank) off. Please.
- Der Kaiser

So everyone is here to talk hockey and then when they stop talking hockey, it's okay for them but because I actually try to engage people, I should be the one who "(frank)s off".

Okay. Never do I say what I'm writing is unquestionable truth. You're right about manufacturing/factory jobs being massively displaced by replacement of human workers and globalizing commerce... I'm talking about the factory jobs that actually are left in America, where college grads who can't find full-time work in their degree's field, are replacing off-the-street workers because it looks better for the company to hire someone with a degree... But that's an entirely different subject.

I'm sorry you all feel so threatened by my, what do you call it?

mistaken belief that "hey I'm a pretty smart guy"

But aside from a few of you, who can have a discussion and argue without personal attack and insult (see: insecurity), you all say some dubious things constantly and expect no one to question them or try to engage you. And the kicker of it is, I'm mostly only responding to someone who's brought up non-hockey related topics in the first place.

And the amount of bitter, hateful responses some of you give to people on here is disgusting, especially with Gerbe. He handles it like a trooper, too.

And you, DK. Some middle-aged fat white guy telling people on a Hockey forum to kill themselves regularly, even when they constructively criticize the Sabres and talk good hockey talk. I don't care what you've seen or where you've been or what you've accomplished, you're not a nice person to interact with, even when it's hockey related.

You may be right in some of the things you say, even regarding me, but interacting with people isn't about being 'right' it's about etiquette and you sir, have none.

Deshawn shead visiting the bills. This would be a significant signing and signify buffalo is probably going with Davis or Howard at 1-10.
- turbo044

sorry turbo. Not a football follower . I just pass info when I get it .

concrete
- Wetbandit1

TRIGGERED

So everyone is here to talk hockey and then when they stop talking hockey, it's okay for them but because I actually try to engage people, I should be the one who "(frank)s off".

Okay. Never do I say what I'm writing is unquestionable truth. You're right about manufacturing/factory jobs being massively displaced by replacement of human workers and globalizing commerce... I'm talking about the factory jobs that actually are left in America, where college grads who can't find full-time work in their degree's field, are replacing off-the-street workers because it looks better for the company to hire someone with a degree... But that's an entirely different subject.

I'm sorry you all feel so threatened by my, what do you call it?



But aside from a few of you, who can have a discussion and argue without personal attack and insult (see: insecurity), you all say some dubious things constantly and expect no one to question them or try to engage you. And the kicker of it is, I'm mostly only responding to someone who's brought up non-hockey related topics in the first place.

And the amount of bitter, hateful responses some of you give to people on here is disgusting, especially with Gerbe. He handles it like a trooper, too.

And you, DK. Some middle-aged fat white guy telling people on a Hockey forum to kill themselves regularly, even when they constructively criticize the Sabres and talk good hockey talk. I don't care what you've seen or where you've been or what you've accomplished, you're not a nice person to interact with, even when it's hockey related.

You may be right in some of the things you say, even regarding me, but interacting with people isn't about being 'right' it's about etiquette and you sir, have none.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Well. poop.

Well. poop.
- buffalofan19

We are fighting .. we are not the enema.

Well. poop.
- buffalofan19

Hey man, not that you care about my opinion, but you and I have differing opinions from what I can tell, yet we can usually keep it clean and constructive when we engage each other. That's all it takes. There's several people on here with the capability.

And the Sabres (frank)ing suck right now. No one should be happy or complacent but what the hell else is there to talk about at this point in the season? The coach is a moron and he's trying to ruin our best player and only 2 guys have lived up to what we expected. And one of them people were ready to run out of town because some stupid skeezer didn't like that he hit it and quit it.

So everyone is here to talk hockey and then when they stop talking hockey, it's okay for them but because I actually try to engage people, I should be the one who "(frank)s off".

Okay. Never do I say what I'm writing is unquestionable truth. You're right about manufacturing/factory jobs being massively displaced by replacement of human workers and globalizing commerce... I'm talking about the factory jobs that actually are left in America, where college grads who can't find full-time work in their degree's field, are replacing off-the-street workers because it looks better for the company to hire someone with a degree... But that's an entirely different subject.

I'm sorry you all feel so threatened by my, what do you call it?



But aside from a few of you, who can have a discussion and argue without personal attack and insult (see: insecurity), you all say some dubious things constantly and expect no one to question them or try to engage you. And the kicker of it is, I'm mostly only responding to someone who's brought up non-hockey related topics in the first place.

And the amount of bitter, hateful responses some of you give to people on here is disgusting, especially with Gerbe. He handles it like a trooper, too.

And you, DK. Some middle-aged fat white guy telling people on a Hockey forum to kill themselves regularly, even when they constructively criticize the Sabres and talk good hockey talk. I don't care what you've seen or where you've been or what you've accomplished, you're not a nice person to interact with, even when it's hockey related.

You may be right in some of the things you say, even regarding me, but interacting with people isn't about being 'right' it's about etiquette and you sir, have none.
- BeadyEyedDouche

I'm not fat.


And it's been a long time since I was middle aged.

Did they not have one for you to sit in before you bought it?
- Wetbandit1

Yea but i'm an idiot and it felt good when I sat in the display chair, then I git home and put it together and it sucked. so I took it back ALREADY ASSEMBLED mind you (wasted 1 hour doing that) and I bought a serta computer chair.

Way better than the posts that seem like little girls complaining cause their new first thong feels weird .

thank you 89

sorry your dumb ass bought the same chair . hope you resolve it .
- cabin

No, bought a different chair after wasting my time putting the other one together. Oh yea, you can't pay any attention to the directions, the F$$KIN thing doesn't go together that way.