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belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 15 @ 7:19 PM ET
That's fine and can happen. It's the easy call. But it all depends on where he is at developing and what Canucks need. He should be playing AHL next season but because of junior rule can't.

Junior given all he's done won't develop his game much if at all. He might take on bad habits against inferior players. Those are the negatives against. Plus playing so much less time in gym for him to put on weight. The biggest knock he has now for pros is strength and weight. Lots of time with Nuck training staff might counter that.

- Nuck4U


Given all he has done? let him dominate Junior before stating that he doesn't belong in that league. He is arguably the 3rd best D on his team let alone the league. I have he will be a good player but he certainly isn't "too good" to be playing on one of the best developing teams in the OHL.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Mar 15 @ 7:20 PM ET
I would trade Tanev for forward help.

Edler Stetcher
Hutton Tryamkin
OJ Gudbrandson

Not that guddy is bottom pairing, but Edler and stech have chemistry as do Hutton Tryamkin

- Retinalz

guddy is bottom pairing he sucks.. i think we need help on D moving forward all we need is one center which we will probably get this year and for a few of our wingers to turn out.

edler has to go this off season
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Mar 15 @ 7:23 PM ET
So he sits 30 games as a Canuck and when he does play gets 12 minutes or plays 80 games as a London Knight 20 minutes a night . What would be better for him
- VANTEL



He did that Knight plan this season. They didn't keep him up. So now they have to evaluate again. I explained options and benefits or negatives in other reply above. It's not my call. I don't know where he's going to be at by camp. But playing more minutes in junior games in itself might not be an uptick in benefit alone. My take is options might be better if he's ready for it.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 15 @ 7:27 PM ET
I would trade Tanev for forward help.

Edler Stetcher
Hutton Tryamkin
OJ Gudbrandson

Not that guddy is bottom pairing, but Edler and stech have chemistry as do Hutton Tryamkin

- Retinalz



Honestly I would ask Edler to waive,

I would keep Tryamkin Sbisa Tanev Hutton Gudbranson Stecher Biega and pick up a UFA like Alzner for a few years and draft a high profiled Dman and let OJ develop
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Mar 15 @ 7:28 PM ET
Given all he has done? let him dominate Junior before stating that he doesn't belong in that league. He is arguably the 3rd best D on his team let alone the league. I have he will be a good player but he certainly isn't "too good" to be playing on one of the best developing teams in the OHL.
- belcherbd



3rd best on team? Don't see him deployed like that. Anyway, he's not a dominating style player. He works better with players that can handle his passing and set ups. Development is a funny thing. Some guys pick up more being top dog others get better being part of the next level. I know the traditional argument is it can't hurt let him get more time. My only suggestion is some guys are in between. He should play AHL. But can't. So does hybrid option on Nucks work better for him?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 15 @ 7:28 PM ET
Dahlen, bb, Goldy one line, Bo, Baer, granny line 2 future looks bright
- Bettmanhatesus

Won't our first line need a center?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 15 @ 7:29 PM ET
He did. I listened to the interview.
- Marwood

But you were probably on LSD so we can't believe anything you hear, signed Dragon.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Mar 15 @ 7:29 PM ET
I would trade Tanev for forward help.

Edler Stetcher
Hutton Tryamkin
OJ Gudbrandson

Not that guddy is bottom pairing, but Edler and stech have chemistry as do Hutton Tryamkin

- Retinalz


With respect man, thats a bad D-core. Without Tanev, I'm no longer sure we stack up all that well against the Oilers blueline.

Stetcher ain't first pairing, that 2nd pair would get mutilated and Guddy will singlehandedly bust O.J.


Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Mar 15 @ 7:32 PM ET
Honestly I would ask Edler to waive,

I would keep Tryamkin Sbisa Tanev Hutton Gudbranson Stecher Biega and pick up a UFA like Alzner for a few years and draft a high profiled Dman and let OJ develop

- VANTEL


Alzner probably wouldn't come to Van ....I suspect he is either a cap, oiler, or flame next year
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 15 @ 7:33 PM ET
If OJ puts on some weight, he could start as a #6
- Retinalz

In 2 years.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 15 @ 7:33 PM ET
That's fine and can happen. It's the easy call. But it all depends on where he is at developing and what Canucks need. He should be playing AHL next season but because of junior rule can't.

Junior given all he's done won't develop his game much if at all. He might take on bad habits against inferior players. Those are the negatives against. Plus playing so many junior games is less time in gym for him to put on weight. The biggest knock he has now for pros is strength and weight. Lots of time with Nuck training staff might counter that. Ease into games. It's not a rush if seen as a development step.

Following season it's AHL or big club just like JV. No worries he's young. That's the option for keeping up. If sent down which is fine then no option. It's a wait a year.

- Nuck4U

That will not happen under Hunter, I trust Dale with everything about OJ.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 15 @ 7:34 PM ET
He should be sent to Jr and the following year to Utica. We don't want to rush these kids
- VANTEL

Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Mar 15 @ 7:37 PM ET
That will not happen under Hunter, I trust Dale with everything about OJ.
- A_SteamingLombardi



Okay. Fair enough on that point on Hunter

Guess it depends what Canucks want to accelerate or work on and where OJ and they are at.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 15 @ 7:38 PM ET
But you were probably on LSD so we can't believe anything you hear, signed Dragon.
- A_SteamingLombardi

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 15 @ 7:38 PM ET
Alzner probably wouldn't come to Van ....I suspect he is either a cap, oiler, or flame next year
- Redmile247


And you know this how?
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Mar 15 @ 8:22 PM ET
And you know this how?
- VANTEL

he don't know crap
but Juolevi and Gudbrannson could work so it don't matter if some overpriced has been don't want to play here
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Mar 15 @ 8:35 PM ET
guddy is bottom pairing he sucks.. i think we need help on D moving forward all we need is one center which we will probably get this year and for a few of our wingers to turn out.

edler has to go this off season

- mauryballstein

guddy sucks? the panthers are still choked about that deal, cost gallant his job. We havnt really seen him, he came into a new system, new team, hurt his wrist in the first month, you ever try to play with a bad wrist it sucks!
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Mar 15 @ 8:39 PM ET
Won't our first line need a center?
- CanuckDon

dahlen can play center they say.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Mar 15 @ 8:44 PM ET
guddy sucks? the panthers are still choked about that deal, cost gallant his job. We havnt really seen him, he came into a new system, new team, hurt his wrist in the first month, you ever try to play with a bad wrist it sucks!
- Bettmanhatesus

Some people only care about advanced stats.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Mar 15 @ 8:50 PM ET
And you know this how?
- VANTEL


Unless your giving him a massive overpay why is he going to a team starting a rebuild or whatever you call it ...
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Mar 15 @ 8:50 PM ET
he don't know crap
but Juolevi and Gudbrannson could work so it don't matter if some overpriced has been don't want to play here

- onesmallleap



onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Mar 15 @ 8:51 PM ET

- Redmile247

Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Mar 15 @ 8:52 PM ET
guddy sucks? the panthers are still choked about that deal, cost gallant his job. We havnt really seen him, he came into a new system, new team, hurt his wrist in the first month, you ever try to play with a bad wrist it sucks!
- Bettmanhatesus


The panthers are fine without guddy ...their good players being injuried is what hurt the panthers this year
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Mar 15 @ 8:52 PM ET
The Canucks last game."Oh look its Brad Marchand and the Boston Bruins"
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Mar 15 @ 8:53 PM ET

- onesmallleap




You never know Karl might want to come home ...but unless he wins a cup this year I'd expect him to stay away from van
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