You don't like Virtanen skill set? Shot, size and speed. Pretty decent set of tools
- CanuckDon

He has the tools, he needs to put his mind in sync with those skills now.

Yeah... So in reality, the jury isn't out. That ceiling can be acquired outside the lottery. Can't waste lottery picks on anything other than top line forwards or top pairing dmen. Scouts have to identify skillsets with those ceilings.
- DrChristianTroy

There are several busts in the top 10 in every draft. It's the nature of picking 17 year olds

You don't like Virtanen skill set? Shot, size and speed. Pretty decent set of tools
- CanuckDon

Top line forwards (the players you target in the lottery) should have all of that plus ELITE hockey IQ

Thanks Carol.

I've seen this posted a bunch of times, without ever seeing one shred of evidence towards it.
- golfingsince

It was presented by Tony Gallagher on TSN1040 one day, long time ago. Tony Gallagher is a chump though, the guy complains about the Vancouver fan base crying when they lose, and crying when they win, and are never happy, yet he drives the hysteria bus with all his dramatic articles and posts. F that guy. He does everything he can stay relevant in Canucks media.

https://twitter.com/Canuc...status/797131568007393281

Top line forwards (the players you target in the lottery) should have all of that plus ELITE hockey IQ
- DrChristianTroy

JV likes Bieber... nuff said.

Too early to tell with JV. I saw a wicked goal he got the other day. He's a kid that still needs to learn, he has the tools. I'm looking forward to seeing him at camp.
- VanHockeyGuy

Me too, I wouldnt be suprised if he works his bag off this summer and really pushes for a spot

Me too, I wouldnt be suprised if he works his bag off this summer and really pushes for a spot
- phyllee

if doesn't then he's a bust for sure.

Skillset has nothing to do with age.
- DrChristianTroy

I'm glad you're back

it's not like CSIS is on the case... its innuendo and speculation. Aquaman probably thought a local boy would be great for marketing... but that's just foolish, when there were other two way guys that JB likes on the board who were as good or better than Virtanen.

It's not like JB can come out and say, "Aquaman put me up to it"...
- kaptaan

Let's not pretend JB doesn't like the meat and potatoes guys.

It's purely speculation, which i'll interpret as a great excuse absolving Benning of any responsibility for a poor selection.

There are several busts in the top 10 in every draft. It's the nature of picking 17 year olds
- CanuckDon

No, it's the nature of bad scouting. There are a LOT of bad scouts in the NHL who put too much emphasis on the wrong sh!t.

It was presented by Tony Gallagher on TSN1040 one day, long time ago. Tony Gallagher is a chump though, the guy complains about the Vancouver fan base crying when they lose, and crying when they win, and are never happy, yet he drives the hysteria bus with all his dramatic articles and posts. F that guy. He does everything he can stay relevant in Canucks media.

https://twitter.com/Canuc...status/797131568007393281
- Codes1087

Tony suspected.

His reasoning is the departing GM wanted Larking.

No, it's the nature of bad scouting. There are a LOT of bad scouts in the NHL who put too much emphasis on the wrong sh!t.
- DrChristianTroy

But they're pros and pros can never do a bad job.

Top line forwards (the players you target in the lottery) should have all of that plus ELITE hockey IQ
- DrChristianTroy

Isn't HF a more appropriate place to complain about Virtanen? He is what he is.the past can't be changed

One way to utilise JV more is dump it in & have him chase & bang.
His speed & size would punish D.

The gauntlet had been thrown down.

I'm going to grab some popcorn and see who can pick up the subtleties of this post.
- Pres.cup

Let's not pretend JB doesn't like the meat and potatoes guys.

It's purely speculation, which i'll interpret as a great excuse absolving Benning of any responsibility for a poor selection.
- golfingsince

My biggest beef with JB is he doesn't like meat and potatoes

1 top C won't make us a contender but would make us better.
2 scoring lines is needed & that is not there atm or anytime soon.
The D is a glairing problem supplying offence.
- Nighthawk

thats what I said

No, it's the nature of bad scouting. There are a LOT of bad scouts in the NHL who put too much emphasis on the wrong sh!t.
- DrChristianTroy

Clearly we have terrible scouting. This shouldn't be a revelation

Isn't HF a more appropriate place to complain about Virtanen? He is what he is.the past can't be changed
- CanuckDon

Is HB strictly for complaining about the Sedins, Edler, Gillis, AV, WD, etc?

He was a bad pick. It's the kind of pick that can set a rebuild back severely, especially if he doesn't ever become any kind of player in the NHL.

Clearly we have terrible scouting. This shouldn't be a revelation
- CanuckDon

Why isn't it being changed then?

I'm glad you're back
- Nucker101

Feels like I never left

This franchise moves at a glacier's pace...

No, it's the nature of bad scouting. There are a LOT of bad scouts in the NHL who put too much emphasis on the wrong sh!t.
- DrChristianTroy

Its all between JV's ears & his work ethic to be a pro.
On all accounts to date his IQ is in question.
If true then prolly a bust if a maturity curve then all will be ok.
Doesn't mean he is a top line F either.

Is HB strictly for complaining about the Sedins, Edler, Gillis, AV, WD, etc?

He was a bad pick. It's the kind of pick that can set a rebuild back severely, especially if he doesn't ever become any kind of player in the NHL.
- golfingsince

I'm super pissed off about the Patrick White pick. Let's debate. He appears to be a bad pick. I'd be very surprised if Virtanen isn't an NHL player.

Why isn't it being changed then?
- Nucker101

That question is more suited for HF, sorry.