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Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Mar 20 @ 4:14 PM ET
This is not even close to the same scenario to the Bert thing.

Never said that Doughty is untouchable, that's just a silly comment.

Your the one whining about it was a dirty hit. I wasn't disagreeing with you, just that a Doughty had it coming.

- Kaynine


I would label it closer to Kesler getting Thrashed by Domi
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Mar 20 @ 4:15 PM ET
This is not even close to the same scenario to the Bert thing.

Never said that Doughty is untouchable, that's just a silly comment.

Your the one whining about it was a dirty hit. I wasn't disagreeing with you, just that a Doughty had it coming.

- Kaynine


I don't think its that dirty at all. I think the hit is fine and everyone just needs something to whine about today. What did Tkachuk do? He turned his back to absorb a hit. Do I think he needed to raise his elbow? Probably not, but that's for the league to decide not me. You guys are saying "he wont fight, he just yaps, all we can do is slash and elbow, whine whine whine".
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Mar 20 @ 4:17 PM ET
Not at all comparable to the Bertuzzi incident.

Bertuzzi was following a young guy, forcing him to fight, then dirty hit him after the whistle.


Doughty got rocked by 19 yo's dirty hit after the play. Not comparable imo.

- Crazybagoham


I already said its not in the same category as far as outcome. But again, you guys are whining that you have to do something to Doughty because all he does is yap and won't fight. I don't remember Steve Moore fighting either.. Why is everyone so pissed off over Doughty's yapping anyway, we had Kesler and Burrows and Bieksa for how many years and no one seemed to raise stink then.
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Mar 20 @ 4:17 PM ET
I don't think its that dirty at all. I think the hit is fine and everyone just needs something to whine about today. What did Tkachuk do? He turned his back to absorb a hit. Do I think he needed to raise his elbow? Probably not, but that's for the league to decide not me. You guys are saying "he wont fight, he just yaps, all we can do is slash and elbow, whine whine whine".
- Codes1087


I never said that he just yaps, but I don't think he would fight. I honestly didn't think he'd even had a fight in his career.
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Mar 20 @ 4:21 PM ET
I don't think its that dirty at all. I think the hit is fine and everyone just needs something to whine about today. What did Tkachuk do? He turned his back to absorb a hit. Do I think he needed to raise his elbow? Probably not, but that's for the league to decide not me. You guys are saying "he wont fight, he just yaps, all we can do is slash and elbow, whine whine whine".
- Codes1087


It was definitely dirty , but its done.... Tkachuk will probably get 3-5 games, mehhhhhhh
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 20 @ 4:21 PM ET
Everyone talks like the Canucks need to be tough but gentlemen. I think we need a few less "virgins" and a couple of real Vikings. (Win at all cost)
- edmontonxxbound


Aaron Rome u listening?
Was the 5 game PO suspension worth it? 😜
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Mar 20 @ 4:22 PM ET
I already said its not in the same category as far as outcome. But again, you guys are whining that you have to do something to Doughty because all he does is yap and won't fight. I don't remember Steve Moore fighting either.. Why is everyone so pissed off over Doughty's yapping anyway, we had Kesler and Burrows and Bieksa for how many years and no one seemed to raise stink then.
- Codes1087


Then why bring it up?

btw Keith hit daniel in the head, because back then the Canucks would NEVER answer the bell (they always wanted to punish teams on the Powerplay). And they didn't..... Keith gets 5 games, Daniel out for 6 months..... you honestly think Keith Regrets that?
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Mar 20 @ 4:24 PM ET
I already said its not in the same category as far as outcome. But again, you guys are whining that you have to do something to Doughty because all he does is yap and won't fight. I don't remember Steve Moore fighting either.. Why is everyone so pissed off over Doughty's yapping anyway, we had Kesler and Burrows and Bieksa for how many years and no one seemed to raise stink then.
- Codes1087


Swap Tkachuk's namebar for Marchand and there wouldn't be a single person in here praising the hit. Marchand has been vilified in here for much less, it wont be long until fans here hate Tkachuk just the same
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 20 @ 4:26 PM ET
My thought on the hit on Doughty "Oh Well"

belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 20 @ 4:27 PM ET
My thought on the hit on Doughty "Oh Well"


- A_SteamingLombardi


Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Mar 20 @ 4:31 PM ET


But we were losing anyways and I really wanted to throw Granlunds 22-25 goals for free in the Flames fans faces

- boonerbuck



Yup. Couldn't they have give him a couple more games. Not like surgery was urgent. They are on the road likely to lose so why make it even more boring for the fans tuning in.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Mar 20 @ 4:32 PM ET
Thought Doughty handled it with class actually, admitted it was dirty, but still kind of gave tkachuk props for playing him so hard.

I'm thinking Tkachuk will have a huge target on his back now

- Crazybagoham


I think he already did ...it's just getting bigger now
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 20 @ 4:33 PM ET
not a fan of bertuzzi/moore retribution sorry.

you guys are all treating Doughty like he is untouchable. FFS the guy has the puck on his stick every shift. Take a healthy yet legal run at him and stop whining about him.

- Codes1087

It was just a little elbow....it was nothing like the Bertuzzi incident. I have no issue with it.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Mar 20 @ 4:35 PM ET
Bargaining chip for JB.

Hey, you weren't a 20 goal scorer.
Sign here.

- dbot



I get that but doesn't player and agent have a say in doing surgery now? So maybe they aren't concerned. They showed enough to get what they want.
edmontonxxbound
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 03.12.2017

Mar 20 @ 4:35 PM ET
Aaron Rome u listening?
Was the 5 game PO suspension worth it? 😜

- Nighthawk

You are kidding, right? You must be the third person, after that series who felt that was the correct call. Way to go little guy. Keep it up you will someday have a whole team of genius hockey people.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 20 @ 4:42 PM ET
You are kidding, right? You must be the third person, after that series who felt that was the correct call. Way to go little guy. Keep it up you will someday have a whole team of genius hockey people.
- edmontonxxbound


Sarcasm 😂😂
I figured Horton admiring his pass in center ice was on him & was brain dead not knowing to be prepared. Rome was only the poor scapegoat for an idiotic league when it comes to player discipline. Horton has his head on a swivel like it should have been & he prolly never gets a career ending hit.

Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Mar 20 @ 4:42 PM ET
You are kidding, right? You must be the third person, after that series who felt that was the correct call. Way to go little guy. Keep it up you will someday have a whole team of genius hockey people.
- edmontonxxbound

Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Mar 20 @ 4:47 PM ET
I get that but doesn't player and agent have a say in doing surgery now? So maybe they aren't concerned. They showed enough to get what they want.
- Nuck4U


Granlund was probably on board with this, but he's under contract.... if the team medical staff told him to get surgery, not much he can do it about it. He seems smart, he probably knew this is the best time to take the surgery and gives him ample time for recovery. I would think Management/COachs/Doctors/Granlund and his agent all decided this.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Mar 20 @ 4:52 PM ET
Then why bring it up?

btw Keith hit daniel in the head, because back then the Canucks would NEVER answer the bell (they always wanted to punish teams on the Powerplay). And they didn't..... Keith gets 5 games, Daniel out for 6 months..... you honestly think Keith Regrets that?

- Crazybagoham


I bring it up strictly because you guys keep saying "Doughty won't fight, the only way is to get slashes/elbows on him". If I remember correctly, Bertuzzi wanted Moore to answer and fight but he wouldn't. The don't belong in the same category apart from the fact that certain people keep saying the only way to get retribution is with these cheap shots, and all I am saying is people need to stop whining and just go after him. Doughty has the puck on his stick all night when hes on the ice, go hit him and let that be the end of it.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Mar 20 @ 4:53 PM ET
It was just a little elbow....it was nothing like the Bertuzzi incident. I have no issue with it.
- LeftCoaster


people need something to talk/complain about. We see far worse hits and elbows all year but because it was done by a pest like Tkachuk on a good player like Doughty, suddenly everyone loses their minds.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 20 @ 4:57 PM ET
people need something to talk/complain about. We see far worse hits and elbows all year but because it was done by a pest like Tkachuk on a good player like Doughty, suddenly everyone loses their minds.
- Codes1087

I don't know who's losing their mind, just something to yak about.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 20 @ 4:58 PM ET
I don't know who's losing their mind, just something to yak about.
- LeftCoaster

yawn
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Mar 20 @ 5:04 PM ET
people need something to talk/complain about. We see far worse hits and elbows all year but because it was done by a pest like Tkachuk on a good player like Doughty, suddenly everyone loses their minds.
- Codes1087



Nobody is whining or complaining about it.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Mar 20 @ 5:04 PM ET
I don't know who's losing their mind, just something to yak about.
- LeftCoaster


I would say don't waste your time by reading over the last few pages, but I know you are retired with nothing better to do so go ahead and have a read
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Mar 20 @ 5:06 PM ET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADGbV5yoFUs
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