Instead of resigning the goalie with the worst stats this season to a 2-year extension, the Flyers should have chosen a random season ticket holder, signed them to a 1-year, 1-way contract at the NHL minimum, and exposed them in the ED.
- jmatchett383

Could have been the huge prize at last night's fan appreciation night. Flyers goalie for a day!

Pretty much explains why we are in 7th place in an 8 team division.
- BiggE

sad but true.....

that is fine if that is what you were getting at. I will just let you know that he is already aware of the situation. What he is hinting at with his comment is that Vegas has to take 20 players that are signed through 2017, so leaving Weal unsigned technically reduces the chances of him being picked
- YuenglingJagr

Yeah true and looking at the list of potential exposed players (Raffl, Read, Laughton, Weal, Weise, Cousins, Leier, Bellemare, Vandevelde, MacDonald, Del Zotto, Schultz) I would personally go with an usigned Weal or a Scott Laughton but yeah Vegas has to go tru all teams and figure out who will be their 20 signed players

Instead of resigning the goalie with the worst stats this season to a 2-year extension, the Flyers should have chosen a random season ticket holder, signed them to a 1-year, 1-way contract at the NHL minimum, and exposed them in the ED.
- jmatchett383

although I haven't seen any public info regarding any games played requirements for the goalies...I'd imagine there is at least something

Would be pretty cool to expose Eric Semborski

While I think Amac has played average this year (not looking to go down the Amac sucks road), I think that LV might select him in the draft. After looking at a lot of the players that will be exposed to them, they will not have a ton of big contracts to pick from, and 5m for Amac would not only give them a contract to meet their 60% of cap floor, but also give them a serviceable player on the blue line for the first couple for years...I could see a case for Read as well, but I think that the Amac contract would also be helpful...I don't know how many other large contracts are out there, or guys that will retire where they could find some contracts, but they can't get there with 30 1M contracts...maybe it takes a later round pick to push them in that direction, but I think with the kids coming up, that could be a win-win for LV and the Flyers...

Yeah true and looking at the list of potential exposed players (Raffl, Read, Laughton, Weal, Weise, Cousins, Leier, Bellemare, Vandevelde, MacDonald, Del Zotto, Schultz) I would personally go with an usigned Weal or a Scott Laughton but yeah Vegas has to go tru all teams and figure out who will be their 20 signed players
- nvrsoft

One thing I am not positive on...

If they negotiate a deal with an unsigned player within the 48 hr window and sign him to a deal...does he count as a signed player?

I don't hate VDV or Belle. They are giving full effort nearly every game.

GM and coach are the one's choosing to play them. Issue lies above. Far too much of a weird fascination with limited 200 foot players that do essentially nothing.

Raffl is an average player based on comparisons against other NHL wingers
PEB is a below average player based on comparisons against other NHL centers

- BiggE

Raffl catches a lot of poop, but he's been one of the better 5v5 players on the Flyers over the years. He doesn't put up gaudy numbers due to little to no PP time. He's been the Flyers best possession forward at 5v5 the past 4 years, 1st line levels for the NHL. And he also scores at a rate of middle-6 NHL forward at 5v5. I'd say hes above average and underrated due to his usage. You can certainly make a case that he is an asset to this team.

PEB on the other hand sucks, no matter the role or how you look at it

Letting Weal unsigned does not protect him from being picked by Vegas.
- nvrsoft

He could be protected without being signed, but if he wasn't protected it seems unlikely to me that Vegas would take Weal as a UFA and when they could take another forward who is under contract or is an RFA.

I don't hate VDV or Belle. They are giving full effort nearly every game.

GM and coach are the one's choosing to play them. Issue lies above. Far too much of a weird fascination with limited 200 foot players that do essentially nothing.
- flyer_nutter

Vandevelde and Bellemare are bridge guys. That's all they are. Next season they move on from Vandevelde and replace with one of the younger role players who are ready to take his role and pk minutes.

Bellemare is a solid vet to have while your inserting youth into the lineup. Especially if there is a possibility you move a veteran core guy.

While I think Amac has played average this year (not looking to go down the Amac sucks road), I think that LV might select him in the draft. After looking at a lot of the players that will be exposed to them, they will not have a ton of big contracts to pick from, and 5m for Amac would not only give them a contract to meet their 60% of cap floor, but also give them a serviceable player on the blue line for the first couple for years...I could see a case for Read as well, but I think that the Amac contract would also be helpful...I don't know how many other large contracts are out there, or guys that will retire where they could find some contracts, but they can't get there with 30 1M contracts...maybe it takes a later round pick to push them in that direction, but I think with the kids coming up, that could be a win-win for LV and the Flyers...
- JW98FlyerFan

I think that would be great if LV picked AMac, but it seems more like wishful thinking than anything else.

Vandevelde and Bellemare are bridge guys. That's all they are. Next season they move on from Vandevelde and replace with one of the younger role players who are ready to take his role and pk minutes.

Bellemare is a solid vet to have while your inserting youth into the lineup. Especially if there is a possibility you move a veteran core guy.
- J35Bacher

The day Chris Vandevelde signs with another organization will be a day long remembered in Flyers history.

The video tribute when he returns to the WFC will be epic!

I think that would be great if LV picked AMac, but it seems more like wishful thinking than anything else.
- johndewar

It might be.

But they need to build a team. They'll need some guys who can play heavy minutes. Play PK. Have to have a mix of vets and youth. I could see MacDonald, Read and Weise all fitting that.

So wait...are we comparing players to their relative NHL peers (i.e. 4th liners to 4th liners) or to everyone else in the world? Clearly, AHL-level players are "good" at hockey compared to 99.999999% of the world's population. So by that rationale, Chris Vandevelde is a great hockey player.
- jmatchett383

Any reasonable person would know that when discussing Raffl or Bellemare and calling them good players, it is not in the context of comparing them to the top players in the NHL.

Vandevelde and Bellemare are bridge guys. That's all they are. Next season they move on from Vandevelde and replace with one of the younger role players who are ready to take his role and pk minutes.

Bellemare is a solid vet to have while your inserting youth into the lineup. Especially if there is a possibility you move a veteran core guy.
- J35Bacher

Why do we need a bridge for 4th liners? They don't matter!

Weal was clearly better than VDV in camp, and he has certainly showed it since being called up.

There is certainly more than enough evidence for one to criticize Hextall's talent evaluation at the NHL level. I've said it before, but its my main concern going forward. He will eventually need to find missing pieces for the team via trade or free agency, and if all the defensive prospects pan out, they will need to move at least one of them. You don't want the team to move Sanheim or Myers and have them become franchise defenders/perennial Norris candidates for another team while the guy we chose to keep regresses to a bottom pairing dman.

Vandevelde and Bellemare are bridge guys. That's all they are. Next season they move on from Vandevelde and replace with one of the younger role players who are ready to take his role and pk minutes.

Bellemare is a solid vet to have while your inserting youth into the lineup. Especially if there is a possibility you move a veteran core guy.
- J35Bacher

I agree with this. My biggest problem with PEB is his deployment. To me, he should not be seeing the ice as much as he does, and unless there are massive injury woes, should not be used in OT.

Vandevelde, don't let the door hit you in the ass...really, you are so (frank)ing slow, the door may hit you in the ass.

The day Chris Vandevelde signs with another organization will be a day long remembered in Flyers history.

The video tribute when he returns to the WFC will be epic!
- johndewar

I have no doubt he is gone.

The Phantoms have some depth guys that could be ready. Cole Bardreau, Laughton, Leier, Fazleev, Aube-Kubel. Corban Knight has played well in Lehigh. Maybe he's played himself into a role. And if they do get Vecchionne he could be a solid role player.


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Can't say I agree ...Both Raffl and PEB would not be a loss at all and that too is from watching these two play. Both have some good traits maybe, but to suggest either in any sense would be a loss or a step backwards is simply your opinion, which I would venture to guess is not shared by many...Maybe Mr. and Mrs. Raffl back home.
- landros 2

The opinion is obviously shared by the Flyers, who re-signed both players to new contracts. Of course it is my opinion, no differently than what you posted above is simply your opinion.

Any reasonable person would know that when discussing Raffl or Bellemare and calling them good players, it is not in the context of comparing them to the top players in the NHL.
- MJL

So again I ask, do you think the Flyers have any bad players on the team? If so, who are they? In your opinion.

Naaaahhhhhh
- YuenglingJagr

VDV has the coaching staff's trust...but even that has to be on thin ice. His contributions to a failing PK don't bode well for his future here....but who knows...he's here till he's not. Simply another tweener between the NHL and AHL, that is fortunate to be playing for a weak Philadelphia Flyers forward core.
- landros 2

I think that he hasn't been re-signed to a new contract is the writing on the wall. It is an area where the Flyers should look to upgrade.

I have no doubt he is gone.

The Phantoms have some depth guys that could be ready. Cole Bardreau, Laughton, Leier, Fazleev, Aube-Kubel. Corban Knight has played well in Lehigh. Maybe he's played himself into a role. And if they do get Vecchionne he could be a solid role player.


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- J35Bacher

I really liked Leier when he was up. He looked ready to me to play that role.

I agree with this. My biggest problem with PEB is his deployment. To me, he should not be seeing the ice as much as he does, and unless there are massive injury woes, should not be used in OT.

Vandevelde, don't let the door hit you in the ass...really, you are so (frank)ing slow, the door may hit you in the ass.
- jmatchett383

hopefully it isnt one of those revolving doors...that could be tough to navigate

hopefully it isnt one of those revolving doors
- YuenglingJagr

Nah, swinging saloon doors from Dry Island.

Why do we need a bridge for 4th liners? They don't matter!

Weal was clearly better than VDV in camp
- JFlyers00

I don't remember anyone but Carchidi being upset about Weal going on waivers in October. He clearly needed major playing time in the AHL to get his mojo back.