I think Boeser has the ceiling to be a true first line winger based on his IQ and shot but he definitely needs to get quicker
- CanuckDon

He had a great game last night. I thought he played a safe and smart one. I was particularly impressed with the kids vision and passing.

I appreciate the comments Ye Old.


My thinking is there is too much time spent on players that are at this point insignificant. I like some of the skills Goldobin brought last night and you cant ignore Boucher having 5 goals.

The problem is even Baertschi is at best a B type player. Hopefully going forward we are discussing A type players that make a difference.
- VANTEL

Why call young developing kids with talent who've hadn't had even a couple years in the NHL as insignificant? How would you know what their ceiling is at right now?

Let's keep developing them and then judge what difference they can make.

I remember "A" type players Linden and Bure led the team to SCF. Then later seeing kids like the Sedins and Kesler, who we all thought were 3rd line players, back then, would later develop to lead the Canucks to another SCF and two president trophies. I didn't know they had that capability when they first arrived. Did you?

He had a great game last night. I thought he played a safe and smart one. I was particularly impressed with the kids vision and passing.
- Bakwas

He gains a step and he will, he will be deadly. His coach at ND said hes like a sponge and looks for ways to be better.

But is he an alpha captain type without feelings?
- A_SteamingLombardi

the beta/ alpha thread was great

He gains a step and he will, he will be deadly. His coach at ND said hes like a sponge and looks for ways to be better.
- Bettmanhatesus

he looks like fun

I think BBB has potential to be a good 2nd line, but i don't think any HC is going to throw that line against top opposition.
- dbot

Is the potential you mean, now? Next season? What?

But is he an alpha captain type without feelings?
- A_SteamingLombardi

Depends on his height.

Why call young developing kids with talent who've hadn't had even a couple years in the NHL as insignificant? How would you know what their ceiling is at right now?

Let's keep developing them and then judge what difference they can make.

I remember "A" type players Linden and Bure led the team to SCF. Then later seeing kids like the Sedins and Kesler, who we all thought were 3rd line players, back then, would later develop to lead the Canucks to another SCF and two president trophies. I didn't know they had that capability when they first arrived. Did you?
- Nuck4U

I can only speak for myself, but I saw the sedins as guys that were going to be good right away. I guess it was just the draft pedigree, but I wasn't at all surprised when they started to be dominant. It was just what I expected out of top picks like that. Still do.
#top5pick

I can only speak for myself, but I saw the sedins as guys that were going to be good right away. I guess it was just the draft pedigree, but I wasn't at all surprised when they started to be dominant. It was just what I expected out of top picks like that. Still do.
#top5pick
- neem55

Wow. JB better hire you now. No one I know or read thought that about them at the time. Good, yes. But great? That type A player impact that was brought up. You saw that early, how?

By the way how did the other top 5 picks do from then? Like the 1OA since we need to expect that from the draft pedigree as you call it.

Also, Kesler wasn't a top 5 pick so how does that theory go?

Wow. JB better hire you now. No one I know or read thought that about them at the time. Good, yes. But great? That type A player impact that was brought up. You saw that early, how?

By the way how did the other top 5 picks do from then? Like the 1OA since we need to expect that from the draft pedigree as you call it.

Also, Kesler wasn't a top 5 pick so how does that theory go?
- Nuck4U

The Sedins were the best players in their draft year and had already played 2 years in the SEL.

As for Kesler he was from the 2003 draft, almost every team in the league drafted so called franchise players.

The Sedins were the best players in their draft year and had already played 2 years in the SEL.
- A_SteamingLombardi

The point wasn't if the Sedins were the best players from a piss poor draft. It was that early on no one could have seen how far they would progress and develop into.

That young players need time before passing judgement on their ceiling and significance. Which is what is happening with these comments about Canuck young players now. This they aren't type A but B players. Exactly what was thought of the Sedins and Kesler back then.

The point wasn't if the Sedins were the best players from a piss poor draft. It was that early on no one could have seen how far they would progress and develop into.

That young players need time before passing judgement on their ceiling and significance. Which is what is happening with these comments about Canuck young players now. This they aren't type A but B players. Exactly what was thought of the Sedins and Kesler back then.
- Nuck4U

Yeah players that have played 2 years in the best mens league in Europe have nothing on our CHL boys

Yeah players that have played 2 years in the best mens league in Europe have nothing on our CHL boys
- A_SteamingLombardi

I have no idea how you derived that comparison?!? It's not even remotely close to the point of topic. Remember the one on forecasting development on young players and passing judgment on them too early.

Somehow, you made this into a slight on the Sedins. When they were used as an example of why not to rate players as insignificant early on.

Is the potential you mean, now? Next season? What?
- Nuck4U

I'm referring to next season.
I don't think that is a realistic 1st line. Potentially good 2nd line.

Until this teams talent develops I expect to see a 2nd Line calibre and 2 3rd lines along with a questionable 4th for another season or 2. Just hope they add some contact to the game and a few goals would also be nice. The losing , most I believe are prepared for, the lack of pushback needs to drastically improve.

Until this teams talent develops I expect to see a 2nd Line calibre and 2 3rd lines along with a questionable 4th for another season or 2. Just hope they add some contact to the game and a few goals would also be nice. The losing , most I believe are prepared for, the lack of pushback needs to drastically improve.
- Reubenkincade

100%. It's ok to lose but at least entertain the fans

Everyone thought the Sedins were going to be great back when they were teenagers. The only thing that kept either from going 1st overall was the fact that they wanted to play together, and the fact that Burke and the Sedins agent talked TB out of selecting Daniel 1st overall.

Whereas we look back at 1999 as a weak draft now, at the time it was considered very deep.

Everyone thought the Sedins were going to be great back when they were teenagers. The only thing that kept either from going 1st overall was the fact that they wanted to play together, and the fact that Burke and the Sedins agent talked TB out of selecting Daniel 1st overall.

Whereas we look back at 1999 as a weak draft now, at the time it was considered very deep.
- golfingsince

This upcoming draft will be worst then 99.

The Sedins have been superstars and led this team two back to back presidents cups and a game 7.

If there are two players who have the individual success that the twins have enjoyed over their lengthy career ill be shocked!

100%. It's ok to lose but at least entertain the fans
- CanuckDon

Hank has more points than the following busts

Jagr

RNH
E kane
Little
Staal
Fillipula

the sane number of points as hossA and lucic amd okposa


Dank had the same amount of points as

Duchene
Stasny
Neil

More points than

Spooner
Nash
Backes
Grabner

The sky isn't falling. The twins arnt the problem

he needs to be more patient when they make mistakes
- CanuckDon

This is a good point. Everybody needs to be more patient after they make mistakes. Folks rush to correct it and often make things worse. Same goes for Management. Every GM makes mistakes just don't compound it by rushing to fix it.

Is it bag over head day for playing the Yotes? Can't imagine what the players are feeling. Can you?

Is it bag over head day for playing the Yotes? Can't imagine what the players are feeling. Can you?
- Nuck4U

yes.

Hank has more points than the following busts

Jagr

RNH
E kane
Little
Staal
Fillipula

the sane number of points as hossA and lucic amd okposa


Dank had the same amount of points as

Duchene
Stasny
Neil

More points than

Spooner
Nash
Backes
Grabner

The sky isn't falling. The twins arnt the problem
- Pres.cup

I respectfully disagree.

I respectfully disagree.
- CanuckDon

Yep...will second that.

How are next seasons lines going to look?