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SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 7 @ 5:08 PM ET
Not with this roster.
- LordHumungous

with this roster there were games we should have won, there was also games we could have won but didnt due to deployment issues. That right there is immediately fixable with a smarter coach resulting in more wins.

We need a new system. THat right there will change things for the better.

we need a coach that gets the most out of indivual players and uses them in situations to match their strengths. THat right there will create success.....

and roster can be upgraded in the meantime
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 7 @ 5:16 PM ET
For now nothing wrong with WD grooming the youths.
When we r ready to be a PO team thats another story for another day.
That said WD will be under the microscope as in loses the room etc.
Until there is a permanent type coach we need idk when the timing is best for WD to be gone. I see no panic to choose yet.

- Nighthawk

youre assuming he is doing that. Yet Malhotra is actually officially named as player development coach. how is everyone overlooking that?
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 7 @ 5:17 PM ET
Yup... no rush.
To think the problem is just coaching.... is

Let him go when hrs losses the room or we want to compete... until than i see more successful development then ruined players.

- Pres.cup


Trying to understand what you are saying with the contradictions. You want WD to stay with the Nucks to develop the youth. But you want the youth in the minors where they belong. How does that work
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Apr 7 @ 5:18 PM ET
with this roster there were games we should have won, there was also games we could have won but didnt due to deployment issues. That right there is immediately fixable with a smarter coach resulting in more wins.

We need a new system. THat right there will change things for the better.

we need a coach that gets the most out of indivual players and uses them in situations to match their strengths. THat right there will create success.....

and roster can be upgraded in the meantime

- SMBDragon


Butt this is the roster we have now so why change the coach until the roster is better. Are you cheering on a10ov pick? Because i dont care who the coach is, this isnt a contending roster as its now constructed. The youngsters are developing just fine. So love him or hate him he's not hurting the club to keep around for another 5 years or so.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 7 @ 5:19 PM ET
Yup... no rush.
To think the problem is just coaching.... is

Let him go when hrs losses the room or we want to compete... until than i see more successful development then ruined players.

- Pres.cup

so your idea is to let us become the oilers and leafs following years of losing. Great plan there

to not see the coaches role is this crapfest is very short sighted.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 7 @ 5:21 PM ET
Without getting things in a tizzy here, it is important to develop youth. Where did you get that thought. They most definitely should be developed...in the minors where they belong
- Makita



When is it right for the youth to play over the plugs? To further their development in the NHL?
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Apr 7 @ 5:24 PM ET
Trying to understand what you are saying with the contradictions. You want WD to stay with the Nucks to develop the youth. But you want the youth in the minors where they belong. How does that work
- Nuck4U


Where did i say that?
The youth that prove they belong such as horvat and baer should be up and WD hasnt hurt their play.
Why must you be so argumentative?
Do you belive that all the young players currently on the roster belong in the NHL?

What you quoted had nothing to do with what your talking about.
Take a walk, clear your mind and come back focused.
You dont have to be right all the time...ok.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 7 @ 5:24 PM ET
with this roster there were games we should have won, there was also games we could have won but didnt due to deployment issues. That right there is immediately fixable with a smarter coach resulting in more wins.

We need a new system. THat right there will change things for the better.

we need a coach that gets the most out of indivual players and uses them in situations to match their strengths. THat right there will create success.....

and roster can be upgraded in the meantime

- SMBDragon

There is little to no talent with this current roster. AHLers and fringe NHLers mixed with a few aging veterans. Goaltending was excellent for the most part. Otherwise the team sucks. Plain & simple. Sucks.
Blaming coaching alone is ridiculous.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 7 @ 5:24 PM ET
Butt this is the roster we have now so why change the coach until the roster is better. Are you cheering on a10ov pick? Because i dont care who the coach is, this isnt a contending roster as its now constructed. The youngsters are developing just fine. So love him or hate him he's not hurting the club to keep around for another 5 years or so.
- Pres.cup

wow you havent a clue as to how this works.
It takes time to get players used to a system as a team. It takes time to institute the things you want in the team.... No team becomes a contender by roster only. Even the pens were losing till they changed their coach and now look at them.

boy in one ear and out the other with you huh

so just believe whatever crud you want. No point arguing with me just cause you cant seem to get it
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 7 @ 5:25 PM ET
Where did i say that?
The youth that prove they belong such as horvat and baer should be up and WD hasnt hurt their play.
Why must you be so argumentative?
Do you belive that all the young players currently on the roster belong in the NHL?

What you quoted had nothing to do with what your talking about.
Take a walk, clear your mind and come back focused.
You dont have to be right all the time...ok.

- Pres.cup

Haha you got sucked in.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 7 @ 5:26 PM ET
When is it right for the youth to play over the plugs? To further their development in the NHL?
- Nuck4U


when they deserve it.
See Virtanen, Dal Colle, Mantha (up until this season), McCan
See Pastrnak, Ehlers, Nylander, Marner
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 7 @ 5:26 PM ET
When is it right for the youth to play over the plugs? To further their development in the NHL?
- Nuck4U

When they are ready.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 7 @ 5:27 PM ET
There is little to no talent with this current roster. AHLers and fringe NHLers mixed with a few aging veterans. Goaltending was excellent for the most part. Otherwise the team sucks. Plain & simple. Sucks.
Blaming coaching alone is ridiculous.

- Marwood

the entire team sucks huh.... thenyou look at the coach if that happens. Wds own words. Look it up
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 7 @ 5:28 PM ET
wow you havent a clue as to how this works.
It takes time to get players used to a system as a team. It takes time to institute the things you want in the team.... No team becomes a contender by roster only. Even the pens were losing till they changed their coach and now look at them.

boy in one ear and out the other with you huh

so just believe whatever crud you want. No point arguing with me just cause you cant seem to get it

- SMBDragon

The young players have developed well with Willie as their coach, you just can't see it but others can.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 7 @ 5:29 PM ET
There is little to no talent with this current roster. AHLers and fringe NHLers mixed with a few aging veterans. Goaltending was excellent for the most part. Otherwise the team sucks. Plain & simple. Sucks.
Blaming coaching alone is ridiculous.

- Marwood

There's a reason that virtually every hockey journalist predicted the Canucks finishing where they are going to finish. Non of those predictions had anything to do with coaching.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 7 @ 5:30 PM ET
The league has never been so skilled and fast, I disagree. I think it boils down to giving time to kids who truly deserve it, and not give every talented kid a pass at playing in the show because they had success in junior, or the NCAA. I think its all about giving kids opportunities if they deserve them, and that's it.
- Codes1087


What's the measure for deserving?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 7 @ 5:30 PM ET
the entire team sucks huh.... thenyou look at the coach if that happens. Wds own words. Look it up
- SMBDragon

No, you look at the roster and who is responsible for building it, past and present.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 7 @ 5:30 PM ET
the entire team sucks huh.... thenyou look at the coach if that happens. Wds own words. Look it up
- SMBDragon

Our highest scoring player is 83rd in league scoring, so yeah our team sucks.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Apr 7 @ 5:30 PM ET
so your idea is to let us become the oilers and leafs following years of losing. Great plan there

to not see the coaches role is this crapfest is very short sighted.

- SMBDragon


If we trade edler and tanev then we become the oil or the leafs.

The players still play hard. The kids are alright.

To blame the season on the coach is ridiculous.

Have you ever coached?

Do you think av would have us in the show?

Who do you suggest right now?

Nobody better, wait until he loses the room then can him.
Wait until the kids have developed and its time to compete, then hire a playoff coach.
(frank) these are your own words im feeding back to you.

Has he ruined horvat or Baer or Gran?
Hell no.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 7 @ 5:31 PM ET
There's a reason that virtually every hockey journalist predicted the Canucks finishing where they are going to finish. Non of those predictions had anything to do without coaching.
- neem55

Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Apr 7 @ 5:31 PM ET
the entire team sucks huh.... thenyou look at the coach if that happens. Wds own words. Look it up
- SMBDragon

People seem to forget the injuries which makes it a lot tougher to coach.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 7 @ 5:31 PM ET
What's the measure for deserving?
- Nuck4U

When they can take on the roll they are given without hurting the team.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Apr 7 @ 5:32 PM ET
Haha you got sucked in.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Nuck You ASL..... NUCK YOU HARD AND FAST


You're right of course
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 7 @ 5:32 PM ET
What's the measure for deserving?
- Nuck4U


Please see examples I mentioned above.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 7 @ 5:33 PM ET
youre assuming he is doing that. Yet Malhotra is actually officially named as player development coach. how is everyone overlooking that?
- SMBDragon


Yes i assume much. I'm on record wanting Tallon here in a capacity he excels at.
Idc the price but FA should do it if its possible. Tallon luvs his golf & sunny weather & an Canuck our 1st ever pick & a proven builder of teams. We check off all boxes except the weather 😂😂 Back up the Brinks truck if he would join us.
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