Doresett on how to get over uneasiness around his injury: My first shift I'm gonna try to run someone over

Missed that guy this year
- WhiteLie

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Doresett on how to get over uneasiness around his injury: My first shift I'm gonna try to run someone over

Missed that guy this year
- WhiteLie

Take a run at Tree and show him how to play.

I think Spector has it wrong. The Oilier rebuild looked very different the what is happening on the Canucks.

Where the Oilers missed the boat was in total lack of team leadership. The youth were expected to lead and set the tone for the future. But the youth did not have the experience to do that. For the Oilers it took replacing a young leader with a generational talent plus new management focused on a more holistic approach rather than just offense.

With the Canucks, they have retained strong, experienced team leadership. The old leadership core has been moving out slowly. Burrows and Hansen (along with the Sedins) had a strong impact on the team this year in terms of leadership. As a result, the youth, ie Bo, became part of the new leadership. It was his development that allowed the team to move Burrows and Hansen.

It was a rough year, but you could see strong growth in players like Granlund, Sven, Hutton, Stetcher, Markstrom.

The Oilers killed their leadership with the expectation that youth and skill would overcome - it didn't - the youth had no mentors to learn from. The Canucks have retained the mentors and it shows as the youth develop far faster than the Oiler (or Toronto for that matter) experience.

Trev and Jim are on the right path. I expect a stronger more experienced team next year. In a surprising short period of time (ie not the Edm dozen years or the Toronto quarter century), I expect that the media will suddenly wake up one day and ask "What just happened in Vancouver? They look good."
- Lostinarink

Well put & much more in depth than my post.
The comparisons of the Canucks to the Oilers is absurd.
Only a media dummy would go there.
Conclusion: many dummies write articles.

you are bound to run into a problem like this after winning a few cups.
Toews and Kane are productive now, but eventually they will start to decline too.
- Codes1087

Thats just a convenient excuse tbh. It did cost Lombardi his job.
Nobody put a gun to his head having to sign everyone longterm.

I can see Green will listen & not be stubborn.
That in itself is huge.
I am guessing his directive will be to PLAY the kids & develop them.
No more WD coaching like every game has PO implications.
More leash will be given IMO
- Nighthawk

I am sure they are not very similar in coaching styles, but it gets repeated that Green has done a great job in Utica, especially with his depleted lineups. Its that part that I disagree with, because he has had really good goaltending help in what would normally be disastrous seasons

Hope Dorsett and Gudbranson show Tryamkin how to fight, could be a little more entertaining if we have at least 3 guys on this team willing to drop the gloves.

I've read some stupid articles. Wait no sorry, i've read a lot of stupid articles about the Canucks. Mark Spector now trumps Botchford for stupidity.

Point 1: Talbot wasn't a legit starting goaltending when they traded for him. Larsson was not a legit first pairing D. To say that Demko and OJ won't be, is dumb at this point in time.

Point 2: It took the Oilers 4- 1OA picks and a generational player to not suck.

Point 3: Van is only playing these young players because half the team is on IR.

Point 4: JB and Co. have been drafting players in later rounds that are showing they could be capable NHL players. Other then Tobias Reider who doesn't play for the Oilers, nobody outside of the first round is helping that team right now.

Point 5: They signed UFA's. Kris Russell, Milan Lucic, Anderj Sekera. Made trades for Patrick Maroon, Adam Larsson.

Take a run at Tree and show him how to play.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I dont think he plays nearly tough enough for his size. Smooth skating big man, but doesnt have the consistent mean-streak you want

Well put & much more in depth than my post.
The comparisons of the Canucks to the Oilers is absurd.
Only a media dummy would go there.
Conclusion: many dummies write articles.
- Nighthawk

Spector always has some negative poop to write about the Nux... where was that (frank)ing bumhole when the Nux were winning the regular season championship president's trophy???

Hope Dorsett and Gudbranson show Tryamkin how to fight, could be a little more entertaining if we have at least 3 guys on this team willing to drop the gloves.
- Reubenkincade

Tryamkin's willing to drop 1 glove.

Thats just a convenient excuse tbh. It did cost Lombardi his job.
Nobody put a gun to his head having to sign everyone longterm.
- Nighthawk

This is where the Hawks model is better since they have kept a few core pieces and swapped out developed players, off season signings, and the odd TDL acquisition for players who are getting too expensive...

The Patriots have applied the model in the NFL and the Hawks are using it in the NHL...

The Nux front office should have been shipping guys out earlier when they had higher value after identifying the nucleus...

I am sure they are not very similar in coaching styles, but it gets repeated that Green has done a great job in Utica, especially with his depleted lineups. Its that part that I disagree with, because he has had really good goaltending help in what would normally be disastrous seasons
- WhiteLie

Sorta of yes but Demko is a rookie & they r making a PO push with no talent at all.

Thats just a convenient excuse tbh. It did cost Lombardi his job.
Nobody put a gun to his head having to sign everyone longterm.
- Nighthawk

they are signed at 10 million a year for multi year contracts. Lets just wait and see how Chicago will be doing when they are near the end of those contracts.

Spector always has some negative poop to write about the Nux... where was that (frank)ing bumhole when the Nux were winning the regular season championship president's trophy???
- kaptaan

Mentoring Botchford for the dark days to come.
Kissin cousins....

The people who saw this coming were bipolars & chicken littles.
- DrChristianTroy

This is where the Hawks model is better since they have kept a few core pieces and swapped out developed players, off season signings, and the odd TDL acquisition for players who are getting too expensive...

The Patriots have applied the model in the NFL and the Hawks are using it in the NHL...

The Nux front office should have been shipping guys out earlier when they had higher value after identifying the nucleus...
- kaptaan

Thats right. Signed their 5 key players longterm.
Kane Toews Hossa Keith Seabrook & trade talent for cap reasons.
Not sign everyone under the sun.
UFA's will go to the Hawks before LAK anyday.

Thats right. Signed their 5 key players longterm.
Kane Toews Hossa Keith Seabrook & trade talent for cap reasons.
Not sign everyone under the sun.
UFA's will go to the Hawks before LAK anyday.
- Nighthawk

Plus Coach Q is great.

they are signed at 10 million a year for multi year contracts. Lets just wait and see how Chicago will be doing when they are near the end of those contracts.
- Codes1087

U forgot lets wait & see what the cap is then many years down the road.

Plus Coach Q is great.
- SRam19

The best 👍👍
Phil jackson of the NHL 😂😂
or Coach Pop of the Spurs

Sorta of yes but Demko is a rookie & they r making a PO push with no talent at all.
- Nighthawk

I agree its hard to pinpoint where success should be credited. But since Bachman was recalled, Demko has gone on a run:

Despite the 1-0 loss today, in his last 17 starts -

Thatcher Demko is 13-4-0 with 1.90 GAA, 0.933 SV% and 2 S/O#Canucks

— Ryan Biech (@ryanbiech) April 9, 2017

Could it be part coaching? Probably. But this kid is also projecting to be a very good goalie, so for me it takes a little wind out of Green's sails

Spector may have touched on a few things Carol but I for one don't think we have ten years of EDM ineptitude staring us in the face. As meddling as the Aquilinis may be, they aren't that stupid to see where we are now and will (hopefully) let TL and JB do their jobs properly instead of handcuffing them like the past three seasons. Under that Guise JB has done quite well with prospects. We have some building blocks in place...just need a few good picks at 2-3 drafts and some balance and we should see a bit of a turnaround.

Playoff picks:

NSH
ANA
EDM
MIN

MTL
PIT
WAS
BOS

I agree its hard to pinpoint where success should be credited. But since Bachman was recalled, Demko has gone on a run:

Despite the 1-0 loss today, in his last 17 starts -

Thatcher Demko is 13-4-0 with 1.90 GAA, 0.933 SV% and 2 S/O#Canucks

— Ryan Biech (@ryanbiech) April 9, 2017

Could it be part coaching? Probably. But this kid is also projecting to be a very good goalie, so for me it takes a little wind out of Green's sails
- WhiteLie

I hearya but by many accounts TG is very smart.
Give him a chance with more talent & lets see.
As we go thru this rebuild let him grow as well into an NHL coach.

I am sure they are not very similar in coaching styles, but it gets repeated that Green has done a great job in Utica, especially with his depleted lineups. Its that part that I disagree with, because he has had really good goaltending help in what would normally be disastrous seasons
- WhiteLie

Come on...sure goaltending was important. But Utica has a brutal roster. He deserves some credit

Spector may have touched on a few things Carol but I for one don't think we have ten years of EDM ineptitude staring us in the face. As meddling as the Aquilinis may be, they aren't that stupid to see where we are now and will (hopefully) let TL and JB do their jobs properly instead of handcuffing them like the past three seasons. Under that Guise JB has done quite well with prospects. We have some building blocks in place...just need a few good picks at 2-3 drafts and some balance and we should see a bit of a turnaround.

Playoff picks:

NSH
ANA
EDM
MIN

MTL
PIT
WAS
BOS
- LordHumungous

What makes you think NSH can take down the hawks?

Mine are:

CHI
MIN
ANA
SJS

NYR
OTT
WAS
PIT(really not sure about this one)

Come on...sure goaltending was important. But Utica has a brutal roster. He deserves some credit
- CanuckDon

Its all a part n parcel of the rebuild going on with the Canucks.
Stocking the cupboard in 3 years & waiting for the kids to turn pro is a delayed process that is slowly happening. In 2-3 years the farm will be deeper. Its all a trickle down effect. U cut down a tree it isn't a house.