NFL is simplistic....

Do as well & go as far as a QB takes a team.
- Nighthawk

This is hilarious

This is hilarious
- VanHockeyGuy

U liked that simple statement huh 😂😂

NFLers rather hear any great Defensive team can make any QB not lose it? 😂

Agreed with most of your points, but sometimes the castoff projects work out well.
Granlund and Baertschi for example.
- we_are_all_canucks

JB like every other GM has done good and bad things in his tenure. He has done a heck of a lot better then MG.

The part of this that interests me is that Noah Hanifin might be available. Id do our 1st for him if theyd take it
- mauryballstein

No.

Canes want an impact forward.

Not trading Hanifin for picks or prospects. Canes are young and have a ton of cap space, picks, and prospects. They're going shopping for big fish.

Now that we r past being competitive for a PO push its all about value & cap/asset management. Goldy & Dahlen help a lot that way. BB also. Resigning EG BO Sven Granlund will be important.
- Nighthawk

Cap management will be the big one. Overpaying mediocre players is an easy trap to fall into on bad teams. Without a plan it could possibly cause problems going forward and mess with your structure long term

Right now I think Hutton's $2.8m deal was not a good precedent to set. Tryamkin is more than deserving of $2+ if thats the standard set. Likewise I think it gives Gudbranson some leverage as well and definitely for Stecher's next contract

That job would be better than this one.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Yes it would. Far better.
I hope Green gets the Florida job because I think it would be ridiculous the hire another coach with no NHL head coaching experience to replace the previous head coach who arrived with no NHL head coaching experience.

Hanifan has 8 career goals. -33. Over 2 years on a team that has been arguably better in all categories maybe minus goaltending. But you are wanting to give up Horvat, who has pretty much been our one and only positive in the last 2 years for him? I just don't get it.
- Codes1087

A lot of that -33 comes from not having a D partner for two years. He's seen a constant rotation of guys like Matt Tennyson, Ryan Murphy, Klas Dahlbeck, etc. at his side. It hasn't been pretty all the time. No room for error at all.

Once Hainsey was traded, Noah got ice time beside Brett Pesce or Justin Faulk and his play dramatically improved.

Yes it would. Far better.
I hope Green gets the Florida job because I think it would be ridiculous the hire another coach with no NHL head coaching experience to replace the previous head coach who arrived with no NHL head coaching experience.
- Marwood

I don't trust FA, TL or JB to hire the right coach.

Yes it would. Far better.
I hope Green gets the Florida job because I think it would be ridiculous the hire another coach with no NHL head coaching experience to replace the previous head coach who arrived with no NHL head coaching experience.
- Marwood

They have to sell tickets.

Make some kind of statement to market this summer.

Failing the #1 or 2 OA it's going to be a tough sell.

Anyway for this off-season:


1) I really hope Benning signs Gudbranson to a one year deal to prove himself, he needs to be healthier/better to earn the kind of contract he wants. I'm open to having him as that overpaid intangibles/leader guy during the rebuild, I think he's more of that than Sutter is.

2) Sign Bo Horvat long-term. He's only going to want more money later if you sign him to a bridge deal.

3) Stay away from signing any veteran UFA's, unless it's for cheap 1 year deal without a NTC, that way you can flip that player for a draft pick potentially. If he sucks, just waive him.

4) Approach Edler about waiving his NTC. Sell him on the fact that this is going to be a long rebuild and he won't be re-signed here. The Sedins only have 1 year left so they won't be here either. I think he'd provide at least a 2-3 team list.

5) If Edler is gone, I'd be open to signing a UFA vet dman to a 1-2 year deal as a stopgap minute eater

6) Expose Sbisa, try to trade him if he doesn't get drafted, if possible. I'd say consider trading Sutter, but I don't think Benning will realistically do that. Again, sign short term stopgaps to fill the holes left by any traded vets. They won't be as good, but the team is going to suck anyway so the goal is just insulate the youth until they earn a spot.

7) Sell the fans on a proper rebuild, stop trying to find shortcuts or disguise it, just accept reality. Yes ticket sales will suck, but look at the arena during the past 2 years when they tried to "compete"...it was dead and can't get much worse. In fact, some hope for the future might actually bring back some fans.

8) Outside of Edler/Sbisa, I'm fine with keeping all of the dman on the roster. I know people are screaming for a dman for forward trade, but staying patient and just drafting/developing some forwards works just as well. Sure, I'd trade Tanev or Hutton if I got good value and it made sense for the team long-term, but otherwise just keep them.
- Nucker101

Excellent post!
I agree with all 8 points, particularly point 7.

A lot of that -33 comes from not having a D partner for two years. He's seen a constant rotation of guys like Matt Tennyson, Ryan Murphy, Klas Dahlbeck, etc. at his side. It hasn't been pretty all the time. No room for error at all.

Once Hainsey was traded, Noah got ice time beside Brett Pesce or Justin Faulk and his play dramatically improved.
- BINGO!

Honestly, I am not trying to say Hanifin is a bad player, cause I know he isn't. I, personally, just would not trade Horvat, or a potential #1-5 pick for Hanifin.

RIP J. Geils

Hope you find that centerfold
- A_SteamingLombardi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6T1C2kCMdc

I don't trust FA, TL or JB to hire the right coach.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I'm not overcome with confidence.

The rebuild only started 6 weeks before he got fired.
- A_SteamingLombardi

The retool continues

They have to sell tickets.

Make some kind of statement to market this summer.

Failing the #1 or 2 OA it's going to be a tough sell.
- VanHockeyGuy

not ripping you vhg as you are just pointing it out, but this is the problem and why vancouver fans won't accept a rebuild ... it won't sell tix and you can't market it .... what you stated above is the 1040 mantra .... people wonder why TL and JB won't mention the word rebuild and that is it, as soon as it is said, vancouver will say fine, tell me when you are done and maybe i'll come back and buy some tix .... people/media who say van would have no problem with a rebuild are those who don't pay for games and those who get in for free ...

Honestly, I am not trying to say Hanifin is a bad player, cause I know he isn't. I, personally, just would not trade Horvat, or a potential #1-5 pick for Hanifin.
- Codes1087

Horvat is the guy we should build the team around.

What are the odds that we pick 5th again?

I bet we pick 5th. Bettman on it!

The retool continues
- VANTEL

Hey there gramps

on twitter, kuzma says benning says Tallon asked for permission to talk to Willie not Green

also Gallant to Vegas

JB like every other GM has done good and bad things in his tenure. He has done a heck of a lot better then MG.
- manvanfan

That makes him the second worst GM

Honestly, I am not trying to say Hanifin is a bad player, cause I know he isn't. I, personally, just would not trade Horvat, or a potential #1-5 pick for Hanifin.
- Codes1087

I would.

But hey, that's fine. I wouldn't trade him for a pick anyway. Bo is a maybe.

Honestly this has Matt Duchene written all over it.

Honestly, I am not trying to say Hanifin is a bad player, cause I know he isn't. I, personally, just would not trade Horvat, or a potential #1-5 pick for Hanifin.
- Codes1087

i agree with this ...stay the course ...wait until you see what some of your prospects wil be until you make a trade like that

Anyway for this off-season:


1) I really hope Benning signs Gudbranson to a one year deal to prove himself, he needs to be healthier/better to earn the kind of contract he wants. I'm open to having him as that overpaid intangibles/leader guy during the rebuild, I think he's more of that than Sutter is.

2) Sign Bo Horvat long-term. He's only going to want more money later if you sign him to a bridge deal.

3) Stay away from signing any veteran UFA's, unless it's for cheap 1 year deal without a NTC, that way you can flip that player for a draft pick potentially. If he sucks, just waive him.

4) Approach Edler about waiving his NTC. Sell him on the fact that this is going to be a long rebuild and he won't be re-signed here. The Sedins only have 1 year left so they won't be here either. I think he'd provide at least a 2-3 team list.

5) If Edler is gone, I'd be open to signing a UFA vet dman to a 1-2 year deal as a stopgap minute eater

6) Expose Sbisa, try to trade him if he doesn't get drafted, if possible. I'd say consider trading Sutter, but I don't think Benning will realistically do that. Again, sign short term stopgaps to fill the holes left by any traded vets. They won't be as good, but the team is going to suck anyway so the goal is just insulate the youth until they earn a spot.

7) Sell the fans on a proper rebuild, stop trying to find shortcuts or disguise it, just accept reality. Yes ticket sales will suck, but look at the arena during the past 2 years when they tried to "compete"...it was dead and can't get much worse. In fact, some hope for the future might actually bring back some fans.

8) Outside of Edler/Sbisa, I'm fine with keeping all of the dman on the roster. I know people are screaming for a dman for forward trade, but staying patient and just drafting/developing some forwards works just as well. Sure, I'd trade Tanev or Hutton if I got good value and it made sense for the team long-term, but otherwise just keep them.
- Nucker101

Do you really think Canucks are in a rebuild frame of mind ? Theey are talking of bringing back Miller. They are going to let Edler walk for free in two years. They are still looking at extending the Sedins .

We have different opinions of what a rebuild is.

Always laugh when I see TSN broadcast the lumberjack competition.

You know hockey must be on the other channels.