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A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 12 @ 7:56 PM ET
Or McCann's when he learned he was coming here?
- Grumpy13

Or Trevor when he learned he was picking 5th
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Apr 12 @ 7:58 PM ET
Anyway for this off-season:


1) I really hope Benning signs Gudbranson to a one year deal to prove himself, he needs to be healthier/better to earn the kind of contract he wants. I'm open to having him as that overpaid intangibles/leader guy during the rebuild, I think he's more of that than Sutter is.

2) Sign Bo Horvat long-term. He's only going to want more money later if you sign him to a bridge deal.

3) Stay away from signing any veteran UFA's, unless it's for cheap 1 year deal without a NTC, that way you can flip that player for a draft pick potentially. If he sucks, just waive him.

4) Approach Edler about waiving his NTC. Sell him on the fact that this is going to be a long rebuild and he won't be re-signed here. The Sedins only have 1 year left so they won't be here either. I think he'd provide at least a 2-3 team list.

5) If Edler is gone, I'd be open to signing a UFA vet dman to a 1-2 year deal as a stopgap minute eater

6) Expose Sbisa, try to trade him if he doesn't get drafted, if possible. I'd say consider trading Sutter, but I don't think Benning will realistically do that. Again, sign short term stopgaps to fill the holes left by any traded vets. They won't be as good, but the team is going to suck anyway so the goal is just insulate the youth until they earn a spot.

7) Sell the fans on a proper rebuild, stop trying to find shortcuts or disguise it, just accept reality. Yes ticket sales will suck, but look at the arena during the past 2 years when they tried to "compete"...it was dead and can't get much worse. In fact, some hope for the future might actually bring back some fans.

8) Outside of Edler/Sbisa, I'm fine with keeping all of the dman on the roster. I know people are screaming for a dman for forward trade, but staying patient and just drafting/developing some forwards works just as well. Sure, I'd trade Tanev or Hutton if I got good value and it made sense for the team long-term, but otherwise just keep them.

- Nucker101


Agreed, on every point. Though I would add Tanev to this list personally, Edler better waive his NTC, if he doesn't, he obviously has no desire to win the cup (which seems odd to me)
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Apr 12 @ 8:00 PM ET
True and the crazy thing is the blueprint doesn't even rely on Brady... Swap him out for Garoppolo and they wouldn't budge as contenders.
- DrChristianTroy


+Bell Belichick, he's the reason Tom Brady is Tom Brady.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 12 @ 8:03 PM ET
Rick Dhaliwal‏ @DhaliwalSports


Patrick on the #Canucks : "that would be amazing to go there, if I get picked by Van it would be an honour to go there."

- VANTEL


I hate suck holes
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 12 @ 8:04 PM ET
Trade Edler to TB for their first and hold 2.5 so they can afford him ,draft Foote with the 15 th
- VANTEL


Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 12 @ 8:09 PM ET
I hate suck holes
- VanHockeyGuy


CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 12 @ 8:17 PM ET
There is an old connection.


It is a two year job so who cares . The new GM will bring in his coach

- VANTEL

You have changed your tune quickly
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 12 @ 8:18 PM ET
Rick Dhaliwal‏ @DhaliwalSports


Patrick on the #Canucks : "that would be amazing to go there, if I get picked by Van it would be an honour to go there."

- VANTEL

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 12 @ 8:18 PM ET
You have changed your tune quickly
- CanuckDon



Like the tide
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 12 @ 8:21 PM ET
Like the tide
- VanHockeyGuy

I'm enjoying the role reversal between some of the anti and pro Benning crowd. It's a fascinating case study
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 12 @ 8:22 PM ET
You have changed your tune quickly
- CanuckDon



Nope I like the young guys.

I don't like Trevor.

I think Jim's hands are tied and he will be voted out by the fan base. He needs to step up and make really bold moves.

He is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't .

This team will be no better next year so this sitting around and letting contracts expire is for the birds.

we_are_all_canucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Don't hate me because I'm really really ridiculously good looking.
Joined: 09.29.2007

Apr 12 @ 8:23 PM ET
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Next in line?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 12 @ 8:28 PM ET
Nope I like the young guys.

I don't like Trevor.

I think Jim's hands are tied and he will be voted out by the fan base. He needs to step up and make really bold moves.

He is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't .

This team will be no better next year so this sitting around and letting contracts expire is for the birds.

- VANTEL

I like Trevor, always have. His heart is in the right place but he is probably in a bit over his head. Perhaps Aquilini should open his purse strings and hire a veteran advisor to work with Linden. That role was supposed to be Patt Quinn's
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 12 @ 8:32 PM ET
I'm enjoying the role reversal between some of the anti and pro Benning crowd. It's a fascinating case study
- CanuckDon


He surprised the heck out of me at the TDL He's got an eye for talent.

If they bring in another GM I hope they keep him in the organization in a similar role he had in Boston.
Bullfrog77
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 02.18.2015

Apr 12 @ 8:34 PM ET
He surprised the heck out of me at the TDL He's got an eye for talent.

If they bring in another GM I hope they keep him in the organization in a similar role he had in Boston.

- VanHockeyGuy

I'd be willing to bet that JB would be much happier as head of scouting....he doesn't enjoy all the fanfare of being the GM. If he could just fly around and scout players and make decent coin...I bet he would jump all over it now.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 12 @ 8:35 PM ET
I like Trevor, always have. His heart is in the right place but he is probably in a bit over his head. Perhaps Aquilini should open his purse strings and hire a veteran advisor to work with Linden. That role was supposed to be Patt Quinn's
- CanuckDon



My problem is they are still half committed to a rebuild. They still have a roster that if the Sedins have a bounce back year we will be around the playoffs and that sucks for draft picks. They are not moving Edler for a draft pick or top 6 player . This is the last chance we have to move him or we are locked in for two more years and he says no thanks to a trade.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 12 @ 8:36 PM ET
He surprised the heck out of me at the TDL He's got an eye for talent.

If they bring in another GM I hope they keep him in the organization in a similar role he had in Boston.

- VanHockeyGuy

That would be wonderful. Not sure if he would sign up for a demotion though. Either way, I don't give a (frank) what other people think. As long as he restocks the prospect pool and gets rid of the old guard he can drool on camera during his interview for all I care. He is a nice guy that works his ass off. A nice change from that pos Gillis
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 12 @ 8:38 PM ET
My problem is they are still half committed to a rebuild. They still have a roster that if the Sedins have a bounce back year we will be around the playoffs and that sucks for draft picks. They are not moving Edler for a draft pick or top 6 player . This is the last chance we have to move him or we are locked in for two more years and he says no thanks to a trade.
- VANTEL

What do you mean it's our last chance to move Edler?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 12 @ 8:40 PM ET
What do you mean it's our last chance to move Edler?
- CanuckDon



Benning can go up to Edler soon as the season is over and ask him where do you want to go TB ANA NY or Vegas ?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 12 @ 8:43 PM ET
Benning can go up to Edler soon as the season is over and ask him where do you want to go TB ANA NY or Vegas ?
- VANTEL


answer.....

"Frustrating year for myself and the team, but this is where I want to be. It's exciting here with all these young guys coming up." - Edler
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Apr 12 @ 8:45 PM ET
answer.....

"Frustrating year for myself and the team, but this is where I want to be. It's exciting here with all these young guys coming up." - Edler

- VanHockeyGuy

Country club contiues.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 12 @ 8:48 PM ET
answer.....

"Frustrating year for myself and the team, but this is where I want to be. It's exciting here with all these young guys coming up." - Edler

- VanHockeyGuy



Thank you Dan Hamhuis . How much did we get back for him?

If You are not moving older players then don't call it a rebuild
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 12 @ 8:48 PM ET
Country club contiues.
- thundachunk


He's got it good, JB can't play hardball with him at risk of upsetting the twins.

Status quo. Deal with it.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 12 @ 8:50 PM ET
Thank you Dan Hamhuis . How much did we get back for him?

If You are not moving older players then don't call it a rebuild

- VANTEL


They are "teachers"
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Apr 12 @ 8:50 PM ET
answer.....

"Frustrating year for myself and the team, but this is where I want to be. It's exciting here with all these young guys coming up." - Edler

- VanHockeyGuy

Unfortunately for Edler JB can force him to go to Vegas.
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