In 2015 when the canucks marketed this



I didn't read the fine print at the bottom that said *2017. Those marketing boys are visionaries.
- bloatedmosquito

They didn't say it would be good change

In 2015 when the canucks marketed this



I didn't read the fine print at the bottom that said *2017. Those marketing boys are visionaries.
- bloatedmosquito

why is everyone soo eager to trade Tanev? He is one of most solid D-men and is only 27. I just don't get it
- GloveHandStrong

Value.

You sure have gotten negative in the last two months our managment and ownership could be a lot worse. So many teams are worse off
- CanuckDon

the sky fell and hit him, it actually happened.

The similarities between the Avs/Canucks recently say a lot, especially if the Canucks win 1st overall in this draft like the Avs did with MacKinnon.

1) Both teams have nice young pieces
2) Both teams overpaid overrated vets to "support" them and spent to the cap.
3) Hell, both teams went after Iginla, he just chose Colorado
4) They both hired first time president's who were beloved players
5) Both teams hired 1st time NHL GM's and coaches(Roy, Benning, WD, Bednar)
6) Both management groups thought they would have competitive teams and were fooled by a playoff birth
7) Both use injuries as an excuse
8) Both have run out of excuses
- Nucker101

These are the points that drive me nuts the most. I can understand feeding the paying public some horsepoop about "competing" and "all in" but both owners must have known deep down that their team's trend was downward. It's a historical cycle that keeps repeating itself.

And what do they do at a crucial time in franchise history?

Hire a rookie crew to guide you through a major restructure/rebuild. It amazes me these big business machines are run so poorly.

Anyway for this off-season:


1) I really hope Benning signs Gudbranson to a one year deal to prove himself, he needs to be healthier/better to earn the kind of contract he wants. I'm open to having him as that overpaid intangibles/leader guy during the rebuild, I think he's more of that than Sutter is.

2) Sign Bo Horvat long-term. He's only going to want more money later if you sign him to a bridge deal.

3) Stay away from signing any veteran UFA's, unless it's for cheap 1 year deal without a NTC, that way you can flip that player for a draft pick potentially. If he sucks, just waive him.

4) Approach Edler about waiving his NTC. Sell him on the fact that this is going to be a long rebuild and he won't be re-signed here. The Sedins only have 1 year left so they won't be here either. I think he'd provide at least a 2-3 team list.

5) If Edler is gone, I'd be open to signing a UFA vet dman to a 1-2 year deal as a stopgap minute eater

6) Expose Sbisa, try to trade him if he doesn't get drafted, if possible. I'd say consider trading Sutter, but I don't think Benning will realistically do that. Again, sign short term stopgaps to fill the holes left by any traded vets. They won't be as good, but the team is going to suck anyway so the goal is just insulate the youth until they earn a spot.

7) Sell the fans on a proper rebuild, stop trying to find shortcuts or disguise it, just accept reality. Yes ticket sales will suck, but look at the arena during the past 2 years when they tried to "compete"...it was dead and can't get much worse. In fact, some hope for the future might actually bring back some fans.

8) Outside of Edler/Sbisa, I'm fine with keeping all of the dman on the roster. I know people are screaming for a dman for forward trade, but staying patient and just drafting/developing some forwards works just as well. Sure, I'd trade Tanev or Hutton if I got good value and it made sense for the team long-term, but otherwise just keep them.

Still not banned
- CanuckDon

The sad part is, we are so (frank)ing irrelevant nobody's paying attention.

The sad part is, we are so (frank)ing irrelevant nobody's paying attention.
- bloatedmosquito

How do you think the Oilers blog became what it is today?

Anyway for this off-season:


1) I really hope Benning signs Gudbranson to a one year deal to prove himself, he needs to be healthier/better to earn the kind of contract he wants. I'm open to having him as that overpaid intangibles/leader guy during the rebuild, I think he's more of that than Sutter is.

2) Sign Bo Horvat long-term. He's only going to want more money later if you sign him to a bridge deal.

3) Stay away from signing any veteran UFA's, unless it's for cheap 1 year deal without a NTC, that way you can flip that player for a draft pick potentially. If he sucks, just waive him.

4) Approach Edler about waiving his NTC. Sell him on the fact that this is going to be a long rebuild and he won't be re-signed here. The Sedins only have 1 year left so they won't be here either. I think he'd provide at least a 2-3 team list.

5) If Edler is gone, I'd be open to signing a UFA vet dman to a 1-2 year deal as a stopgap minute eater

6) Expose Sbisa, try to trade him if he doesn't get drafted, if possible. I'd say consider trading Sutter, but I don't think Benning will realistically do that. Again, sign short term stopgaps to fill the holes left by any traded vets. They won't be as good, but the team is going to suck anyway so the goal is just insulate the youth until they earn a spot.

7) Sell the fans on a proper rebuild, stop trying to find shortcuts or disguise it, just accept reality. Yes ticket sales will suck, but look at the arena during the past 2 years when they tried to "compete"...it was dead and can't get much worse. In fact, some hope for the future might actually bring back some fans.
- Nucker101

What is such a thing? 10 years of sucking?

What is such a thing? 10 years of sucking?
- manvanfan

Nope. It can be done much much quicker if done correctly. You want 10 years of sucking? Do what the Canucks have been doing over the past 3-4 years.

Anyway for this off-season:


1) I really hope Benning signs Gudbranson to a one year deal to prove himself, he needs to be healthier/better to earn the kind of contract he wants. I'm open to having him as that overpaid intangibles/leader guy during the rebuild, I think he's more of that than Sutter is.

2) Sign Bo Horvat long-term. He's only going to want more money later if you sign him to a bridge deal.

3) Stay away from signing any veteran UFA's, unless it's for cheap 1 year deal without a NTC, that way you can flip that player for a draft pick potentially. If he sucks, just waive him.

4) Approach Edler about waiving his NTC. Sell him on the fact that this is going to be a long rebuild and he won't be re-signed here. The Sedins only have 1 year left so they won't be here either. I think he'd provide at least a 2-3 team list.

5) If Edler is gone, I'd be open to signing a UFA vet dman to a 1-2 year deal as a stopgap minute eater

6) Expose Sbisa, try to trade him if he doesn't get drafted, if possible. I'd say consider trading Sutter, but I don't think Benning will realistically do that. Again, sign short term stopgaps to fill the holes left by any traded vets. They won't be as good, but the team is going to suck anyway so the goal is just insulate the youth until they earn a spot.

7) Sell the fans on a proper rebuild, stop trying to find shortcuts or disguise it, just accept reality. Yes ticket sales will suck, but look at the arena during the past 2 years when they tried to "compete"...it was dead and can't get much worse. In fact, some hope for the future might actually bring back some fans.

8) Outside of Edler/Sbisa, I'm fine with keeping all of the dman on the roster. I know people are screaming for a dman for forward trade, but staying patient and just drafting/developing some forwards works just as well. Sure, I'd trade Tanev or Hutton if I got good value and it made sense for the team long-term, but otherwise just keep them.
- Nucker101

How do you think the Oilers blog became what it is today?
- Nucker101

Talk about pushing boundaries. That place become a nuthouse for awhile. It got locked down quite a few times.

Nope. It can be done much much quicker if done correctly.
- Nucker101

Why do people keep using TO and Edmonton as examples? They are extraordinary examples of an extreme. True outliers. Kind of like the canuck drafting record.

Nope. It can be done much much quicker if done correctly. You want 10 years of sucking? Do what the Canucks have been doing over the past 3-4 years.
- Nucker101

Exactly!

Nope. It can be done much much quicker if done correctly. You want 10 years of sucking? Do what the Canucks have been doing over the past 3-4 years.
- Nucker101

Other then Chicago no team has accomplished a rebuild yet. I don't want 10 years of sucking. I don't have a problem with what JB and TL have been doing.

Why do people keep using TO and Edmonton as examples? They are extraordinary examples of an extreme. True outliers. Kind of like the canuck drafting record.
- bloatedmosquito

who else has done one other then Chicago?

Other then Chicago no team has accomplished a rebuild yet. I don't want 10 years of sucking. I don't have a problem with what JB and TL have been doing.
- manvanfan

To put it bluntly, you deserve mediocrity.

Other then Chicago no team has accomplished a rebuild yet. I don't want 10 years of sucking. I don't have a problem with what JB and TL have been doing.
- manvanfan

Can't just accept perpetual mediocrity because the blueprint for perpetual success isn't common knowledge...

To put it bluntly, you deserve mediocrity.
- Nucker101

I'll just let you post for me today

who else has done one other then Chicago?
- manvanfan

Toronto right now.

Chicago as you said.

Tampa drafted top ten plenty, 5 times in a span of 6 years.

Those teams have competent management(Tampa once they hired Yzerman, before that they were (frank)ed like the Canucks)

To put it bluntly, you deserve mediocrity.
- Nucker101

I am clearly missing what you would like the Canucks to do other then tell you that they are in a rebuild.

Can't just accept perpetual mediocrity because the blueprint for perpetual success isn't common knowledge...
- DrChristianTroy

That's because there is no blueprint otherwise every single team would be doing it year after year and succeeding.

Toronto right now.

Chicago as you said.

Tampa drafted top ten plenty, 5 times in a span of 6 years.

Those teams have competent management(Tampa once they hired Yzerman, before that they were (frank)ed like the Canucks)
- Nucker101

So all of these teams drafted high for a number of seasons and are now being rewarded? Isn't that exactly what Van is starting?

I am clearly missing what you would like the Canucks to do other then tell you that they are in a rebuild.
- manvanfan

Yes you are. They haven't done anything to indicate to me that they are properly rebuilding up until this TDL. So about 2 and a half seasons into Jimbo's tenure.

That's because there is no blueprint otherwise every single team would be doing it year after year and succeeding.
- manvanfan

That's not true at all... I realize the posters on this site don't like cross-sport references, but the Patriots have been showing the rest of the NFL how it's done for a LONG time, and ppl still can't comprehend it.