I very much agree with this. I haven't been a fan as long as some of you, however it is exciting not only getting to watch young guys play with the big team and hear about other young guys in the minors.

As for the people saying Myers is better than Morin so he should make the team ahead of him. Another side of it is that Myers hasnt played in the AHL and maybe by giving him that time down there he becomes A LOT better than Morin and not just a little. Like always you never know if his development will be stunted by playing in the NHL so what the heck do I know.
- johm12

The only thing holding Myers back as someone else mentioned. How filled out will he be coming into camp. Besides provorov, he was the best d prospect last camp, coming off of a knee injury. And it's no flash in the pan

The only thing holding Myers back as someone else mentioned. How filled out will he be coming into camp. Besides provorov, he was the best d prospect last camp, coming off of a knee injury. And it's no flash in the pan
- Just5

We don't know for sure what the injuries this year will have done to his progression, though. Also, two camps ago Hagg looked real good and then struggled in the AHL that year. My point is we don't know for sure what we'll see come next camp. If Myers looks like he did last year than yes, I think he should make the team. However, for all we know Morin could come in and look like a world beater next camp. We'll have to wait and see, but I do think we add two more rookie Dmen to the blueline for the start of next season. Just a matter of who wins those jobs.

We don't know for sure what the injuries this year will have done to his progression, though. Also, two camps ago Hagg looked real good and then struggled in the AHL that year. My point is we don't know for sure what we'll see come next camp. If Myers looks like he did last year than yes, I think he should make the team. However, for all we know Morin could come in and look like a world beater next camp. We'll have to wait and see, but I do think we add two more rookie Dmen to the blueline for the start of next season. Just a matter of who wins those jobs.
- EducatedOpinion

I expect Hexy to carry over the same thinking from last camp, " if a rookie comes into camp and earns his spot, and clearly makes our team better, we will make space for them." (Rough summary).

I expect Hexy to carry over the same thinking from last camp, " if a rookie comes into camp and earns his spot, and clearly makes our team better, we will make space for them." (Rough summary).
- arichardson22

This quote from hextall makes me think there could be more coming, not just on the back end.

"Pro sports is all about proving yourself year after year," he said. "Every one of our players has to prove themselves next year. Will it stay together? I don't know. If we'd have won a couple rounds of playoffs, there's obviously a better chance of them staying together. Does that mean it's not going to stay together? I don't know what's going to come our way. Am I happy with the team? No. I'm not. How can you be, right? We missed the playoffs and, again, we were capable. I don't know one way or the other whether there's going to be change."

Myers should ideally get some AHL time for his own benefit.

Morin, Sanheim, Hagg should all be on the team already too. There may only be 2 spots as is with MacDonald. Myers isn't really more advanced than Sanheim was, and he got 1 year and ridiculously it sounds like they may plan for him to spend more time down there. Which is pointless for him and for the NHL team.

Over the last 3 years Flyers PP has been in the top 10 in the NHL, the PK has been in the bottom 5.

PP coach fired, PK coach retained.

More ass backwards thinking from this franchise.

This quote from hextall makes me think there could be more coming, not just on the back end.

"Pro sports is all about proving yourself year after year," he said. "Every one of our players has to prove themselves next year. Will it stay together? I don't know. If we'd have won a couple rounds of playoffs, there's obviously a better chance of them staying together. Does that mean it's not going to stay together? I don't know what's going to come our way. Am I happy with the team? No. I'm not. How can you be, right? We missed the playoffs and, again, we were capable. I don't know one way or the other whether there's going to be change."
- J35Bacher

I was thinking about this earlier today when reading some peoples comments. I think this is a very interesting statement. Why would he hint at breaking up the core. Kind of surprised it hasnt been brought up before now.

Over the last 3 years Flyers PP has been in the top 10 in the NHL, the PK has been in the bottom 5.

PP coach fired, PK coach retained.

More ass backwards thinking from this franchise.
- PLindbergh31

I agree to an extent. PP2 has been an absolute disaster, and you would have to make a legit effort to make PP1 bad with the talent they have on that unit.

Retaining the PK coach does raise a lot of concern for me. People wanna say it was a personnel issue, well it wasn't. They have the personnel, the staff just chooses to use their worst players in these high-leverage situations. Its dumb. Both should have been fired IMO. Only way it makes sense to me is if what BiggE has suggested comes to fruition.

I'd like to see more progressive thinking for the PK. I actually think Ghost would be a great PKer if given the opportunity, but dinosaurs.

Myers should ideally get some AHL time for his own benefit.

Morin, Sanheim, Hagg should all be on the team already too. There may only be 2 spots as is with MacDonald. Myers isn't really more advanced than Sanheim was, and he got 1 year and ridiculously it sounds like they may plan for him to spend more time down there. Which is pointless for him and for the NHL team.
- Mononoke

Gotta burn some ELC time in the AHL if possible.

Who is gonna get the Amac hazing next?

Over the last 3 years Flyers PP has been in the top 10 in the NHL, the PK has been in the bottom 5.

PP coach fired, PK coach retained.

More ass backwards thinking from this franchise.
- PLindbergh31

I can't say I am a fan of it but one thing I thought about was the PP at times would go very dry while having the top players on it.

The PP struggles but you don't usually have your best players on it all the time.

I think the PK will get better with some adjusting of talents on it. I think the PP could use a new set of eyes that maybe can adjust things when the PP starts to go dry. At times I thought they were very stagnate.

Who is gonna get the Amac hazing next?
- JFlyers00

Hakstol is licking his lips at the thought of reuniting Provy and Mac.......for 3 more years.

But if he's up with the big club, Sanheim could use that safety blanket for sure.

I agree to an extent. PP2 has been an absolute disaster, and you would have to make a legit effort to make PP1 bad with the talent they have on that unit.

Retaining the PK coach does raise a lot of concern for me. People wanna say it was a personnel issue, well it wasn't. They have the personnel, the staff just chooses to use their worst players in these high-leverage situations. Its dumb. Both should have been fired IMO. Only way it makes sense to me is if what BiggE has suggested comes to fruition.

I'd like to see more progressive thinking for the PK. I actually think Ghost would be a great PKer if given the opportunity, but dinosaurs.
- JFlyers00

I agree to an extent. PP2 has been an absolute disaster, and you would have to make a legit effort to make PP1 bad with the talent they have on that unit.

Retaining the PK coach does raise a lot of concern for me. People wanna say it was a personnel issue, well it wasn't. They have the personnel, the staff just chooses to use their worst players in these high-leverage situations. Its dumb. Both should have been fired IMO. Only way it makes sense to me is if what BiggE has suggested comes to fruition.

I'd like to see more progressive thinking for the PK. I actually think Ghost would be a great PKer if given the opportunity, but dinosaurs.
- JFlyers00

I mentioned this other day, we don't know, for sure, that Lappy will be coaching the PK next year. I think there is a very good chance that they bring in a new assistant that will oversee all the special teams and Lappy will just work with the forwards in general.

I think we need to sit back and see how everything shakes out before we rush to judgement.

Edit: meant this as a response to PLind not you, sorry

I agree to an extent. PP2 has been an absolute disaster, and you would have to make a legit effort to make PP1 bad with the talent they have on that unit.

Retaining the PK coach does raise a lot of concern for me. People wanna say it was a personnel issue, well it wasn't. They have the personnel, the staff just chooses to use their worst players in these high-leverage situations. Its dumb. Both should have been fired IMO. Only way it makes sense to me is if what BiggE has suggested comes to fruition.

I'd like to see more progressive thinking for the PK. I actually think Ghost would be a great PKer if given the opportunity, but dinosaurs.
- JFlyers00

I wanted both gone. I've said since the summer that PP1 is just plain stale, even if the talent (as in league best PP talent) is too rich for it to starve off and die. It's too static and predictable. We'll see if that changes. And PP2 being the bastard child has to end. It looks like Mullen has barely spent any time on it over the years. Yes, it's not going to score with frequency, but they scored at 5v5 numbers this year and have been really bad and near the bottom of the league for years. Even adding all that talent to it this year it took Mullen almost the entire season to put players in their proper roles, and it somehow got worse. For some reason they always choose to run it like PP1 instead of letting it play to its strengths. Mullen had just been too comfortable riding the coattails of the elite PP1 talent for too long.

And I simply don't buy that the PK is just due to personnel. I don't. I think it's a cop out that absolves coaches for their personal mistakes until they get elite talent that smoothes them over, to an extent. Coaches can be evaluated independent of the talent. Firstly, they choose the lesser personnel, so the idea that onus isn't on the coaches for selecting the worst players to use is beyond me. And their personnel isn't that bad. Hell, I believe their goalies had a higher PK save % than last year when they were actually good. Lappy was a good guy with no coaching experience, and in his tenure here, it has shown. The loyalty there kills me. Just shuffle him elsewhere. Coaching has been a real blind spot for Hextall at both levels. Now we are going into next season with the same exact bench coaches.

Mood?

It sounded like Hextall was definitely going to sign another veteran goalie, possibly even Mason, but only after the ED.
- Feanor

Ek is bound to have Viagra pop-up ads on this site any day now.

I agree to an extent. PP2 has been an absolute disaster, and you would have to make a legit effort to make PP1 bad with the talent they have on that unit.

Retaining the PK coach does raise a lot of concern for me. People wanna say it was a personnel issue, well it wasn't. They have the personnel, the staff just chooses to use their worst players in these high-leverage situations. Its dumb. Both should have been fired IMO. Only way it makes sense to me is if what BiggE has suggested comes to fruition.

I'd like to see more progressive thinking for the PK. I actually think Ghost would be a great PKer if given the opportunity, but dinosaurs.
- JFlyers00

Good point about the second PP unit. I believe I read they scored one goal over the last 57 games or something along those lines.

That said, Mullen deserves the benefit of the doubt. The PK has been flat out awful.

The only thing holding Myers back as someone else mentioned. How filled out will he be coming into camp. Besides provorov, he was the best d prospect last camp, coming off of a knee injury. And it's no flash in the pan
- Just5

You got that from the one game he played that was actually televised?

Mullen let go, but the others kept on.

The fraternity/country club lives on I see. A club coached by Lappy/Hak that loves boys like VDV/Belle. Joy. Neanderthal thinking.

Go yell at Ghost some more, that boy plays with too much skill.

One day, I will get to see the purge. Of all the old 'glory day' fools that this club employs. Leafs style. One can dream.
- flyer_nutter

I think we're post Neanderthal. There are no McCarthy, Brashear, Fedoruk, Cote, Shelly types on the team. Can we call it the early Homo Sapien era?

Mood?
- hockeylover

Over the last 3 years Flyers PP has been in the top 10 in the NHL, the PK has been in the bottom 5.

PP coach fired, PK coach retained.

More ass backwards thinking from this franchise.
- PLindbergh31

hooray, we are back on this again when it hasn't been brought up so now we can whine about it for the day. for the record Mullen has been here 11 years. maybe the thought was to bring in a fresh person with fresh ideas. Maybe, just maybe Lappy gets another year because management feels maybe the personnel is more responsible than the coaching being the Flyers PK was ranked high when they had better personnel several years ago. Hardly see it as backwards thinking. but carry on....the Flyers suck, Holmgren sucks, Hakstol sucks, CVV sucks, Hextall sucks, Neuvirth sucks.

I wanted both gone. I've said since the summer that PP1 is just plain stale, even if the talent (as in league best PP talent) is too rich for it to starve off and die. It's too static and predictable. We'll see if that changes. And PP2 being the bastard child has to end. It looks like Mullen has barely spent any time on it over the years. Yes, it's not going to score with frequency, but they scored at 5v5 numbers this year and have been really bad and near the bottom of the league for years. Even adding all that talent to it this year it took Mullen almost the entire season to put players in their proper roles, and it somehow got worse. For some reason they always choose to run it like PP1 instead of letting it play to its strengths. Mullen had just been too comfortable riding the coattails of the elite PP1 talent for too long.

And I simply don't buy that the PK is just due to personnel. I don't. I think it's a cop out that absolves coaches for their personal mistakes until they get elite talent that smoothes them over, to an extent. Coaches can be evaluated independent of the talent. Firstly, they choose the lesser personnel, so the idea that onus isn't on the coaches for selecting the worst players to use is beyond me. And their personnel isn't that bad. Hell, I believe their goalies had a higher PK save % than last year when they were actually good. Lappy was a good guy with no coaching experience, and in his tenure here, it has shown. The loyalty there kills me. Just shuffle him elsewhere. Coaching has been a real blind spot for Hextall at both levels. Now we are going into next season with the same exact bench coaches.
- Mononoke

At minimum, I wanted Mullen and Lappy gone . I've honestly seen more than enough from Hak, but I can live with them giving him another year. If Lappy retains PK responsibilities, any thought of Hak not finishing his contract here would seem to be a dream.

Lappy gets another year because management feels maybe the personnel is more responsible than the coaching
- nastyflyergirl

If true, this team is going nowhere. They have the personnel, the coaches just refuse to use them.

hooray, we are back on this again when it hasn't been brought up so now we can whine about it for the day. for the record Mullen has been here 11 years. maybe the thought was to bring in a fresh person with fresh ideas. Maybe, just maybe Lappy gets another year because management feels maybe the personnel is more responsible than the coaching being the Flyers PK was ranked high when they had better personnel several years ago. Hardly see it as backwards thinking. but carry on....the Flyers suck, Holmgren sucks, Hakstol sucks, CVV sucks, Hextall sucks, Neuvirth sucks.
- nastyflyergirl

lol!

I really don't know how some folks get through a day. I'm hoping it's just an internet persona character and they're not really like that in real life.

Brynas IF - 3 vs. Frolunda - 1 in game 7 right now 9 mins left in the 3rd period... Winner plays HV71 in the finals.

Lindblom with 2 goals and 1 assist, and Felix starting in net for Brynas has stopped 31 of 32 shots. Lindblom looks and is the best player on the ice without a doubt, any time he's on the ice his name is mentioned always around the play and a danger