the source is from the dressing room you goof
- CanuckDon

Ok, and that so-called inner-circle source is willing to give you (what, over dinner or over-heard in a bar) sensitive inner-team gossip?

Pot-Kettle.

Your word is worth less then Botch's, at-least he's got press-credentials lol.

Then don't you think Linden should have refrained from calling him a future core player if this was the case? Or didn't he know he was poison in the room? Something doesn't add up with this picture.
- VanHockeyGuy

well it's all true...choose to believe it or don't

At least Phillip Larsen is gone.

Now we just need to get rid of Edler somehow.

and Gudbranson.

I always enjoy the 'sky is falling' mentality in these forums. Tryamkin wanted to play next year and not wait for an opportunity. Should he have got a chance? Maybe, but at what cost? You think it would be better to send Stetcher or Hutton down and risk waivers? It was the safest decision if it needed to be made now.

The part I don't like is that it seems JB/TL made a decision that Tanev/Edler are not being traded no matter what which is even more disappointing...

He is only 22 though, we have to remember this. We had lots of good years left. He signs 1 or 2 years in the KHL, the Canucks bring in some really good pieces, who knows what he does. Either way, this is the risk you take when you draft Russians.
- Codes1087

I agree he is still young, but do you think he will come back? For him to come back does that mean has to be guaranteed a certain amount of icetime? Certain playing partners?

Where would he develop more, KHL or NHL?

He made a tough bold move going back to the KHL, and I don't think it was for the better.

Ok, and that so-called inner-circle source is willing to give you (what, over dinner or over-heard in a bar) sensitive inner-team gossip?

Pot-Kettle.

Your word is worth less then Botch's, at-least he's got press-credentials lol.
- Whiskey-Tango

sure whiskey...sure

I posted this 2 weeks ago. Do you not recall?
- CanuckDon

yeah, and you didn't have a shred of evidence then either. I'm just saying, if you're going to say words like"facts" and "sources" but not qualify them, then it's an opinion not an argument based on facts.

Dude, it sucks but it's all real. This has nothing to do with Benning. The only one that should be blamed is tryamkin. If you want someone else to blame I suppose Willie. I dislike Willie but I don't think it's his fault.
- CanuckDon

the source is from the dressing room you goof
- CanuckDon

Maybe you should open your eyes up and realize its time to change the guys in the room who are of the opinion this guy and that guy doesn't fit in. Pretty sick and tired of the vets dictating who fits in and who doesn't while they finish at the bottom of the league. Inmates running the asylum.

The whole room and organization needs a house cleaning if we're being honest.

well it's all true...choose to believe it or don't
- CanuckDon

If that's true then Linden is a fool for including Tryamkin as a core player in his port mortem correct? He must have known right?

At least Phillip Larsen is gone.

Now we just need to get rid of Edler somehow.

and Gudbranson.
- classic321

Re-Rebuild the defense

Dude, it sucks but it's all real. This has nothing to do with Benning. The only one that should be blamed is tryamkin. If you want someone else to blame I suppose Willie. I dislike Willie but I don't think it's his fault.
- CanuckDon

But it's a broken record, keeps repeating its self.

How many players on this team through the years have had real problems with management? I'm talking "drive him to the airport" kind of problems. There are many. Too many in my opinion.

Excuses are like bumholes...

At this point they really need to go full rebuild even more so today than yesterday.. They have to acquire bad contracts and players on 1 year deals that can be moved..

Management has to come up with a way to replace all these kids/picks that have left for nothing..

yeah, and you didn't have a shred of evidence then either. I'm just saying, if you're going to say words like"facts" and "sources" but not qualify them, then it's an opinion not an argument based on facts.
- neem55

sure that's fair. I just don't want to throw anyone under the bus.

At least Phillip Larsen is gone.

Now we just need to get rid of Edler somehow.

and Gudbranson.
- classic321

Edler yes, Gubranson no. You don't trade players when their value is low, that's just bad management--> ASSET MANAGEMENT

Maybe you should open your eyes up and realize its time to change the guys in the room who are of the opinion this guy and that guy doesn't fit in. Pretty sick and tired of the vets dictating who fits in and who doesn't while they finish at the bottom of the league. Inmates running the asylum.

The whole room and organization needs a house cleaning if we're being honest.
- LeftCoaster

That's all what needs to be said.

At this point they really need to go full rebuild even more so today than yesterday.. They have to acquire bad contracts and players on 1 year deals that can be moved..

Management has to come up with a way to replace all these kids/picks that have left for nothing..
- mauryballstein

Team Tank welcomes you

#top5pick2018

Maybe you should open your eyes up and realize its time to change the guys in the room who are of the opinion this guy and that guy doesn't fit in. Pretty sick and tired of the vets dictating who fits in and who doesn't while they finish at the bottom of the league. Inmates running the asylum.

The whole room and organization needs a house cleaning if we're being honest.
- LeftCoaster

Do you think if the Sedin's don't like somebody there might be something wrong with the dude? I do...but to each their own.

It's pretty disappointing Makita. I've been losing faith with this management group this past season, particularly because of the mixed messages from Benning, Linden and Desjardin. Then with their refusal to acknowledge a rebuild and then this.
Not a good start to the off season, in my eyes.
- Marwood

I understand the disappointment, I guess I'm an individual that prefers to make informed decisions.

I must admit that I'm a bit confused by the mixed messages that have come out, he stated he was happy to play here and the NHL was his focus. Now he states he was unhappy with WD and not being a top 6 player...sorry but I'm getting a few red flags here.

So when all I read here is reactionary speculation I was a bit shocked.

Everyone seems to be throwing a twist to everything...it's the Sedins fault for not mentoring, they hate Russians, it"s Bennings fault, and now the rebuild is another 2 years behind, it's the fault of tanking and what happens when you don't play the kids 30 minutes a night....and on and on

If that's true then Linden is a fool for including Tryamkin as a core player in his port mortem correct? He must have known right?
- VanHockeyGuy

obviously the situation escalated since then. but yes, that is odd.

thx for being one of the only reasonable and unbiased posters

- CanuckDon

I just dont get how you can blame management on this one.

They have done everything you can to make him happy, burn a year of his ELC, add the KHL clause, and probably told the coach to play him more. But outside of that, the rest is on the player.

Guys here shredded Drouin for being a spoiled entitled brat when he went home for not getting the icetime he thought he deserved, didnt want to go to the AHL, etc. And yet because this fanbase is so fragile with this rebuild that 1 defenseman (who admittedly had some flashes of great potential) goes home for a while we all want to point fingers at management instead of the player. Total hypocrisy.

If JB doesnt qualify him to retain his NHL rights, go ahead and burn him at the stake, but everyone needs to relax. If Tree is as great as we think he is, he'll be a great boost when we come out of the downward spiral

I agree he is still young, but do you think he will come back? For him to come back does that mean has to be guaranteed a certain amount of icetime? Certain playing partners?

Where would he develop more, KHL or NHL?

He made a tough bold move going back to the KHL, and I don't think it was for the better.
- Kaynine

the KHL is clearly not the best league in the world, but it still produces talent. Look at Panarin.
As far as him coming back, I have no idea, Sobotka did it this year.

Maybe you should open your eyes up and realize its time to change the guys in the room who are of the opinion this guy and that guy doesn't fit in. Pretty sick and tired of the vets dictating who fits in and who doesn't while they finish at the bottom of the league. Inmates running the asylum.

The whole room and organization needs a house cleaning if we're being honest.
- LeftCoaster

Truth is like poetry...

And most people (frank)ing hate poetry.

I agree he is still young, but do you think he will come back? For him to come back does that mean has to be guaranteed a certain amount of icetime? Certain playing partners?

Where would he develop more, KHL or NHL?

He made a tough bold move going back to the KHL, and I don't think it was for the better.
- Kaynine

Tramkin is probably taking the 'wait and see' approach. See what coach they hire and where the team is at by the end of next season. If it looks promising he'll probably be back if not he'll piss off. I would ask the posters here though is this the kind of Attitude we want from our players moving forward? To pull out and take off at the first sign of adversity Like Kovalchuk Datsyuk Kesler and a few others did?

Or maybe what we need is players who can deal with the psychological and physical diversity that the NHL requires. If Tramkin is pissing off because he is pouting about the coach or mngt then piss off and git gone.

Do you think if the Sedin's don't like somebody there might be something wrong with the dude? I do...but to each their own.
- CanuckDon

I really don't give a poop if he's a good hockey player! Look I played in the WHL and IHL, I know dressing rooms, (frank) the Sedins and their "this our room" attitude.