but the collectively make less than moulson




- Michael Pachla

Sure...
but it doesn't save us $$$ on the Cap to have Baptiste up & Moulson in AHL
Maybe like 200,000 or something like that


I'd love if we could get Moulson traded
But I seriously doubt he gets buried

Sure...
but it doesn't save us $$$ on the Cap to have Baptiste up & Moulson in AHL
Maybe like 200,000 or something like that


I'd love if we could get Moulson traded
But I seriously doubt he gets buried
- jdfitz77

I was just goofin

I meant Capfriendly. My bad.

I can't believe someone is arguing keeping Moulson here and others are backing it up. What kind of bizarro world is this? Playoff teams do this all the time dude. It's called realizing you're stuck with an over the hill vet and doing what you can to keep him away from your young, growing team. Those rookies especially Baptiste and Bailey were yanked around all year if they played on one line consistently I'd bet they would be of better service to the team.
- bluengold12

I am NOT saying I want Moulson here
I'm saying I doubt Murray buries him

He's a vet
Still produces
The young guys don't produce as much as u think

Would I rather have Baptiste here?
Yes

But I don't think Murray will do that for all the reasons I listed

Heard that before
- cabin

He's not getting traded. He's getting bought or sent to Rochester. Book it now.

As far as hardest to move that goes to BADgosian by a mile. He's paid compared to a top pairing defenceman for three more years he has the worst hockey sense I've ever seen and is incredibly injury prone.
- bluengold12

I disagree. No gm would want a 33 year old scoring winger that doesn't score at 5 mil. There's probably a gm dumb enough to take a chance on Bogosian

I was just goofin
- Michael Pachla

No worries

I'm just playing Devil's advocate anyways

I hope taking Moulson is the "favor" from McPhee to pay back GMTM
That would be great

No worries

I'm just playing Devil's advocate anyways

I hope taking Moulson is the "favor" from McPhee to pay back GMTM
That would be great
- jdfitz77

am thinking they'll buy him out and hoping it's either ennis or bogo

I meant Capfriendly. My bad.

I can't believe someone is arguing keeping Moulson here and others are backing it up. What kind of bizarro world is this? Playoff teams do this all the time dude. It's called realizing you're stuck with an over the hill vet and doing what you can to keep him away from your young, growing team. Those rookies especially Baptiste and Bailey were yanked around all year if they played on one line consistently I'd bet they would be of better service to the team.
- bluengold12

You'd rather he be in Rochester (frank)ing with those young players? We're stuck with him. Buying him out is a bad idea. Far right column. https://www.capfriendly.c...t_calculator/matt-moulson

am thinking they'll buy him out and hoping it's either ennis or bogo
- Michael Pachla

Isn't the Moulson buyout kinda high still though?
Hang on...
I'll check


EDIT

2017-18 $2,833,333
2018-19 $3,833,333
2019-20 $833,333
2020-21 $833,333

So 18-19 is the one that hurts bc that's the start of Jack, Sam & (probably) Kane's new contracts

I am NOT saying I want Moulson here
I'm saying I doubt Murray buries him

He's a vet
Still produces
The young guys don't produce as much as u think

Would I rather have Baptiste here?
Yes

But I don't think Murray will do that for all the reasons I listed
- jdfitz77

I'm telling you teams do this all the time. And good ones at that. Chicago has done this a lot. As has Toronto. He produced in inflated powerplay time and otherwise is invincible, he can't skate or play defensively.

I disagree. No gm would want a 33 year old scoring winger that doesn't score at 5 mil. There's probably a gm dumb enough to take a chance on Bogosian
- chilliard77

The point is Moulson can be justified for being bought out or sent to Rochester. Neither I think can be traded. BADgosian won't get bought out or sent down because Murray knows he has nothing to replace him with and will justify keeping him because he's still only 27

The point is Moulson can be justified for being bought out or sent to Rochester. Neither I think can be traded. BADgosian won't get bought out or sent down because Murray knows he has nothing to replace him with and will justify keeping him because he's still only 27
- bluengold12

I'm just saying I don't think Moulson hurts this team on the fourth line and PP. If it came down to fourth line v. AHL I'd rather have him here

I'm telling you teams do this all the time. And good ones at that. Chicago has done this a lot. As has Toronto. He produced in inflated powerplay time and otherwise is invincible, he can't skate or play defensively.
- bluengold12

We aren't "good" though
Can't compare us with Chicago

Maybe you're right though
We're just gonna have to agree to disagree here

You'd rather he be in Rochester (frank)ing with those young players? We're stuck with him. Buying him out is a bad idea. Far right column. https://www.capfriendly.c...t_calculator/matt-moulson
- Wetbandit1

Buying him out is only really like a 3 mill hit in two years and a two hit this year. Worth it. And I'd rather him in Rocheter competing against worse competition then poisoning our all star cornerstone talent. Yes, yes I would.

We aren't "good" though
Can't compare us with Chicago

Maybe you're right though
We're just gonna have to agree to disagree here
- jdfitz77

It's time to start acting like a good team though and doing things like showing your balls and sending a "nice guy" vet like Moulson to Rochester sends that message. We'll see but I know what I'd do.

Buying him out is only really like a 2 mill hit in two years and a mill hit this year. Worth it. And I'd rather him in Rocheter competing against worse competition then poisoning our all star cornerstone talent. Yes, yes I would.
- bluengold12

I'd rather just wait a year to buy him out. Next year we *shouldn't* be hurting for cap

Buying him out is only really like a 2 mill hit in two years and a mill hit this year. Worth it. And I'd rather him in Rocheter competing against worse competition then poisoning our all star cornerstone talent. Yes, yes I would.
- bluengold12

Did I miss something about Moulson "poisoning" the room?
As far as I remember,
Jack had nothing but good things to say about Moulson...

I'd rather just wait a year to buy him out. Next year we *shouldn't* be hurting for cap
- chilliard77

This is a playoffs or massive overhaul year for the Sabres. Can't afford to have him on the team anymore. Need to win now.

It's time to start acting like a good team though and doing things like showing your balls and sending a "nice guy" vet like Moulson to Rochester sends that message. We'll see but I know what I'd do.
- bluengold12

I can't say I wouldn't consider it myself
Just don't think MURRAY will do it

Did I miss something about Moulson "poisoning" the room?
As far as I remember,
Jack had nothing but good things to say about Moulson...
- jdfitz77

Nothing to do with his personality. It's his poisonous play

Isn't the Moulson buyout kinda high still though?
Hang on...
I'll check


EDIT

2017-18 $2,833,333
2018-19 $3,833,333
2019-20 $833,333
2020-21 $833,333

So 18-19 is the one that hurts bc that's the start of Jack, Sam & (probably) Kane's new contracts
- jdfitz77

you're right...could be tight

I'd rather just wait a year to buy him out. Next year we *shouldn't* be hurting for cap
- chilliard77

I ran the numbers for that too
3.7mil caphit if bought out next year

Hopefully we can just get Vegas to take him
Otherwise we might be stuck

This is a playoffs or massive overhaul year for the Sabres. Can't afford to have him on the team anymore. Need to win now.
- bluengold12

I'm afraid next season may end in another disappointment with those expectations

Nothing to do with his personality. It's his poisonous play
- bluengold12

You're exaggerating here dude
10min a night on the 4th line, and some PP2 time (where he's still pretty good), won't "poison" anyone

I'm afraid next season may end in another disappointment with those expectations
- chilliard77

Antipin + 1 more top4 defenseman & we legit compete for a playoff spot
Probably make it

Just think if Kulikov & Bogo were decent this year

And also add a decent forward from a team with Cap &/or expansion issues...

And I think we are definitely in the playoffs