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Losman
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 08.30.2006

Apr 20 @ 8:43 PM ET
Nobody is going to trade for Lehner before the expansion draft, so you're hoping that Vegas would take Lehner, They also have to tender Ullmark firstbefore they could expose him to the expansiondraft.
- macman9


Lehner doesnt have a contract next year. Just don't sign him. Move on.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Apr 20 @ 8:44 PM ET
That 1st round pick for Lehner didn't help but, Kulikov and Franson should have been gone at the deadline. He got offered a late pick for Kulikov.
- SABRES 89


I understand him not giving Kulikov away. You don't want to set a precedent that when desperate you'll just give a guy away, or massively overpay. Basically make a rash decision when your back is against the wall. You have to show that you have a price and if the other guy doesn't want to meet it then he can (frank) off.

A 6th round pick is next to useless. But showing that you're not going to cave just because you need to get rid of someone is better in the long run. The long run in this case being a month and a half.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Apr 20 @ 8:45 PM ET
Lehner doesnt have a contract next year. Just don't sign him. Move on.
- Losman


Mistake.
macman9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 02.04.2013

Apr 20 @ 8:45 PM ET
I also fear that Pegula will want to act quick (As he kind of needs to) And not wait for some of the more up in coming Assistant GM's on current playoff teams. Lombardi in Pegula's mind could be perfect choice. Two cups won, Has vast experience, no nonsense (A recent Pegula trend), and vast connections.

I think it will be the wrong move but the right one could prove to be tricky in terms of timing and risk.

- bluengold12


This isn't the NFL, I don't think being in the playoffs affects whether or not an Assistant GM can take a GM job with another team.
chilliard77
Location: AZ
Joined: 08.23.2011

Apr 20 @ 8:46 PM ET
Mistake.
- Wetbandit1

Yeah. Why exactly are we letting Lehner go for nothing? lol
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 20 @ 8:46 PM ET
Nobody is going to trade for Lehner before the expansion draft, so you're hoping that Vegas would take Lehner, They also have to tender Ullmark firstbefore they could expose him to the expansiondraft.
- macman9


As much as I don't like the trade for Lehner, I don't think exposing him is a good idea, especially now. The first they traded is now a sunk cost, and he is the best you have to work with. Now, granted, if he demands a six year contract, then that's a different story.
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Apr 20 @ 8:48 PM ET
Why does everyone hate lehner? The first round pick is old news. He saves enough pucks to be a starter.

Wanting him gone for the bad trade is silly. Give him 3-4 mil for 2-3 years.
macman9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 02.04.2013

Apr 20 @ 8:48 PM ET
Lehner doesnt have a contract next year. Just don't sign him. Move on.
- Losman


So you wan to move on from the one guy who stood up and challenged his teammates to play harder, and Oh by the way, had a decent season in goal.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Apr 20 @ 8:48 PM ET
This isn't the NFL, I don't think being in the playoffs affects whether or not an Assistant GM can take a GM job with another team.
- macman9


Almost positive it does.
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

Apr 20 @ 8:49 PM ET
Almost positive it does.
- Wetbandit1


I don't think you can get someone from a team still in the playoffs
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Apr 20 @ 8:49 PM ET
Why does everyone hate lehner? The first round pick is old news. He saves enough pucks to be a starter.

Wanting him gone for the bad trade is silly. Give him 3-4 mil for 2-3 years.

- robz228


I'm guessing 2 for $7M. A not insignificant bump and a couple years to prove he deserves big money.
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

Apr 20 @ 8:50 PM ET
Why does everyone hate lehner? The first round pick is old news. He saves enough pucks to be a starter.

Wanting him gone for the bad trade is silly. Give him 3-4 mil for 2-3 years.

- robz228


Do you guys know who Ottawa drafted with that 1st rd pick?
Losman
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 08.30.2006

Apr 20 @ 8:51 PM ET
Read on a different board that TPegs has a Director of Hockey Ops ready to be introduced tomorrow.

Makes sense. I would think TPegs would rather talk about the future than the past.
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Apr 20 @ 8:51 PM ET
Do you guys know who Ottawa drafted with that 1st rd pick?
- Matthews_Auston


I'm pretty sure it was Colin White? Miserable trade looking back, but it should not affect Lehner at all, just the GM that just got fired
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Apr 20 @ 8:51 PM ET
I don't think you can get someone from a team still in the playoffs
- Matthews_Auston


I think it's just more noticeable in the NFL because so many coaches/coordinators change jobs, and ones on good teams get head coaching jobs. It's relatively uncommon in hockey.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Apr 20 @ 8:51 PM ET
Read on a different board that TPegs has a Director of Hockey Ops ready to be introduced tomorrow.

Makes sense. I would think TPegs would rather talk about the future than the past.

- Losman



think broads just hinted at lindy ruff
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

Apr 20 @ 8:54 PM ET
I'm pretty sure it was Colin White? Miserable trade looking back, but it should not affect Lehner at all, just the GM that just got fired
- robz228


Colin White?? Ugh
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Apr 20 @ 8:54 PM ET
Why does everyone hate lehner? The first round pick is old news. He saves enough pucks to be a starter.

Wanting him gone for the bad trade is silly. Give him 3-4 mil for 2-3 years.

- robz228

maybe the shootouts left an indelible mark
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Apr 20 @ 8:55 PM ET
think broads just hinted at lindy ruff
- Sabresfan-365


As I said which was ignored on here. Ruff wants to retire. Maybe that changed once he was offered a position that allowed him to stay in Buffalo much more often but I doubt it.

My bet goes on Kevyn Adams
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

Apr 20 @ 8:56 PM ET
As I said which was ignored on here. Ruff wants to retire. Maybe that changed once he was offered a position that allowed him to stay in Buffalo much more often but I doubt it.

My bet goes on Kevyn Adams

- bluengold12


I honestly think Pegula hires a former Sabre.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Apr 20 @ 8:58 PM ET
I honestly think Pegula hires a former Sabre.
- Matthews_Auston


Adams is from Buffalo. Close enough.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 20 @ 8:58 PM ET
think broads just hinted at lindy ruff
- Sabresfan-365

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Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Apr 20 @ 9:02 PM ET
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- sbroads24



FWIW, my buddy who has spoken to Murray several times told me today that Murray knew this was a real possibility. Maybe Pegula will act quickly
- sbroads24




post above said "watch lindy ruff be hired tomorrow" i thought thats what you were getting at.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Apr 20 @ 9:06 PM ET
post above said "watch lindy ruff be hired tomorrow" i thought thats what you were getting at.
- Sabresfan-365


I think we may have finally petered out here...


43 pages of whatever that was in about 11 hours. Pretty solid work.
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Apr 20 @ 9:06 PM ET
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Kevin Sylvester @kevsylvester
can't see Terry Pegula holding a press conference tomorrow to just take questions. Wouldn't surprise me if he named a hockey president
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