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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: Boom! Both Tim Murray and Dan Bylsma fired. Opportunity knocks
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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 21 @ 10:26 AM ET
All the talk about character, how much is directed towards Kane and is it possible that this directly led to Murray's dismissal?
- adambuffalo


I'd say maybe 1%. Kane was fine this year.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Apr 21 @ 10:26 AM ET
Pegula is an awful public speaker, but who cares?


What he said was fine

- sbroads24


I think the problem with his public speaking isn't that he is bumbling. The bumbling is a reflection of not having a plan and then hiding when things went bad.
FruitPeddler
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Girgensons Falls Down Every Single Play
Joined: 07.07.2016

Apr 21 @ 10:26 AM ET
All the talk about character, how much is directed towards Kane and is it possible that this directly led to Murray's dismissal?
- adambuffalo


I believe it was a statement on 'lack of character'. Too much mediocrity and professionalism. Need more guys that HATE LOSING.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Apr 21 @ 10:27 AM ET
Yeah it was brutal. But honestly, short of having a VP or Pres in place today, what did you expect from Terry? He is not a hockey guy, he doesn't have a set plan right now. But I'd rather that then have him come out the day after firing coach and GM and tell us his shiny new idea. Don't rush this. Do it right.
- FruitPeddler


Everyone said he must have had a plan in place I was really excited about today now I'm just like what ?who's going to help him lol
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Apr 21 @ 10:27 AM ET
Rivet and Peters are employees of the Sabres, not WGR.

That said, Rivet is doing a great job breaking it down.

- Slump Buster



Rivet for GM. I almost always agree with him when it comes to trades, signing players and the entire time leading up to the deadline.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Apr 21 @ 10:27 AM ET
All the talk about character, how much is directed towards Kane and is it possible that this directly led to Murray's dismissal?
- adambuffalo


I don't think the character references are references to stuff that was publicized. I think what is obvious that there were gigantic problems in the room.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 21 @ 10:27 AM ET
Everyone said he must have had a plan in place I was really excited about today now I'm just like what ?who's going to help him lol
- GERBE!!!75PTS


Stop overreacting.

I guarantee you there is a plan in place.
FruitPeddler
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Girgensons Falls Down Every Single Play
Joined: 07.07.2016

Apr 21 @ 10:28 AM ET
Everyone said he must have had a plan in place I was really excited about today now I'm just like what ?who's going to help him lol
- GERBE!!!75PTS


We're all pretty emotional after these firings. The next few weeks are going to be exciting too, so long as this is done the right way this time.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 21 @ 10:28 AM ET
I think the problem with his public speaking isn't that he is bumbling. The bumbling is a reflection of not having a plan and then hiding when things went bad.
- Slump Buster


What?

He has always been bad at public speaking, back to the day he bought the team.

Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Apr 21 @ 10:29 AM ET
Stop overreacting.

I guarantee you there is a plan in place.

- ImThatGuy


The next plan will be the first one
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Apr 21 @ 10:29 AM ET
What?

He has always been bad at public speaking, back to the day he bought the team.

- ImThatGuy


Yes, but my point is that today sounded so bad because it is clear that he doesn't know what he is doing. That's the part that is making everyone cringe.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Apr 21 @ 10:30 AM ET
Stop overreacting.

I guarantee you there is a plan in place.

- ImThatGuy


If there was a plan in place there would have been someone with him ...

It is what it is
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 21 @ 10:31 AM ET
Yes, but my point is that today sounded so bad because it is clear that he doesn't know what he is doing. That's the part that is making everyone cringe.
- Slump Buster


That wasn't clear to me. What was clear is he wants more of a structure in the organization, you know, a plan.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Apr 21 @ 10:31 AM ET
If there was a plan in place there would have been someone with him ...

It is what it is

- GERBE!!!75PTS



Unless the plan involves someone still in the playoffs.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Apr 21 @ 10:31 AM ET
Pegs says he regrets that he was NOT involved in hiring Murray or Bylsma.

That means LaFontaine hired Murray, and after he bolted, Murray hired Dan.

If Dan is a Murray guy, not a Pegs guy, and the coordination was as bad as it was, then Murray needed to go.

Pegs also says he doesn't regret operating witout LaFontaine after he left. Im going to remain optimistic and say that means he is losing the FanBoy quality, and will look to the Hockey Ops guy with experience, but not an alumni.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Apr 21 @ 10:31 AM ET
At least they'll be rumors everyday that should be fun lol
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 21 @ 10:31 AM ET
If there was a plan in place there would have been someone with him ...

It is what it is

- GERBE!!!75PTS


What? or they just fired the guy yesterday and they are still putting the initial plan into effect.
again stop overreacting to every little thing.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
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Apr 21 @ 10:32 AM ET
Unless the plan involves someone still in the playoffs.
- adambuffalo


Chicago is out .. who are you thinking?
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Apr 21 @ 10:33 AM ET
That wasn't clear to me. What was clear is he wants more of a structure in the organization, you know, a plan.
- ImThatGuy


Sure, that's what he said. He said it years ago with the Bills too. Saying it and having a plan to do it are two very different things. If he had a plan all of the organizational fiascos with both teams wouldn't have happened.
Whatnot78
Buffalo Sabres
Location: last place heros, VA
Joined: 02.21.2007

Apr 21 @ 10:33 AM ET
If there was a plan in place there would have been someone with him ...

It is what it is

- GERBE!!!75PTS


If he had someone with him, I'd say it was a knee-jerk reaction to hire someone quickly.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Apr 21 @ 10:33 AM ET
What? or they just fired the guy yesterday and they are still putting the initial plan into effect.
again stop overreacting to every little thing.

- ImThatGuy


Dude I'm not overreacting seriously.. just talking in the conversation

ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 21 @ 10:34 AM ET
Chicago is out .. who are you thinking?
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Um...
Pittsburgh
Nashville
Minnesota
St Louis
NYR
Montreal
San Jose


Any of those teams.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Apr 21 @ 10:34 AM ET
If he had someone with him, I'd say it was a knee-jerk reaction to hire someone quickly.
- Whatnot78


I can't remember didn't he have Pat LaFontaine and everyone two days after they fired ruff I can't remember..
Whatnot78
Buffalo Sabres
Location: last place heros, VA
Joined: 02.21.2007

Apr 21 @ 10:35 AM ET
Chicago is out .. who are you thinking?
- GERBE!!!75PTS


Chicago lost yesterday...I'd give it more than 10 hours before we cross anyone off that list.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Apr 21 @ 10:35 AM ET
Um...
Pittsburgh
Nashville
Minnesota
St Louis
NYR
Montreal
San Jose


Any of those teams.

- ImThatGuy


Are you done being snotty? It's not like I was being sarcastic in my question just making conversation.. Jesus
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