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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 21 @ 5:26 PM ET
I'm really curious as to how you come up with these speculative remarks.

Bold #1 Both him and JB both stated in the media that family was the issue, so where is there a spin?
Bold#2 Unless you are going to contradict Carol, JB and other reports, he was offered substantial money for 2 years. He will be making less in the KHL according to the blog.
Bold#3 You are throwing out names with no insight, or intimate knowledge of what happened and who were the individuals involved. Don's source in the canucks room is pretty solid (I know who it is), but not once was it reported that the Sedins hated him or any of those guys, for all we know maybe Stecher and Beiga, Sbisa hated him because he sounded like an entitled spoiled child and the Sedins could have been trying to help him...

So I'm curious, how do you come to these conclusions?

- Makita


I already tried to explain it to him
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 21 @ 5:30 PM ET
I already tried to explain it to him
- Codes1087


So what's your thoughts on the romours about Goldobin and Mrs Tryamkin, I see it's gaining traction...
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Apr 21 @ 5:32 PM ET
So what's your thoughts on the romours about Goldobin and Mrs Tryamkin, I see it's gaining traction...
- Makita

Got me convinced
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 21 @ 5:34 PM ET
So what's your thoughts on the romours about Goldobin and Mrs Tryamkin, I see it's gaining traction...
- Makita


Tryamkin left because Scneider slept with Tryamkins new wife in response to Kesler sleeping with Schneider's wife. Tryamkin got mad and farted on Goldobin's pillow, thus Goldobin was out with an "illness" AKA "pink eye"
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 21 @ 5:40 PM ET
Look how many times Sobotka and Radulov have left. Hudler did it. There's more but I know those ones off the top of my head.

Heck, Good Canadian Boy Giordano left Calgary to go over to the KHL to get paid, get ice time and then came back damn near a Norris winner in short order.

- Lindenis#1


Yes KHL is an option that works for some for different reasons. Money and opportunity were the chief motivators. I think it's true for Tree he just had family reasons too. It sounds better as well. It can work out later. The pile on him not being tough enough, entitled or mentally strong to work through it; are just frustration bombs. The guy had a choice end of his contract. Nucks didn't tip it for him.

It sucks for Nuck fans because he brought a lot of things for us in these dark times. As you have said. A more mature, family settled Tree may come back. The Nucks will have to be in better standing and pay more. Plus see a top 4 role to make it happen though.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 21 @ 5:40 PM ET
I see most posts are still on why Tryamkin decided to leave, I'm telling everyone here, it wasn't Willie, Doug, Jim, Hank or Danny's hate of Russians, not enough money, only a two year contract for such a talented superstar defenceman...

I'm not sure why this train of thought is continuing, read the damn reports, Goldy was making it with his wife, it's right there in black and white, if you read between the lines.

- Makita

I thought Sutter was bumping ugly with his wife? Goldy was live streaming it.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 21 @ 5:46 PM ET
I see most posts are still on why Tryamkin decided to leave, I'm telling everyone here, it wasn't Willie, Doug, Jim, Hank or Danny's hate of Russians, not enough money, only a two year contract for such a talented superstar defenceman...

I'm not sure why this train of thought is continuing, read the damn reports, Goldy was making it with his wife, it's right there in black and white, if you read between the lines.

- Makita


Is that the thin red line or the big blue line? You are onto the sex scandal line. Is there a number to listen in
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 21 @ 5:49 PM ET
Same sh!t as far as I'm concerned. If he ever flips the switch & realizes he's capable of imposing his will on any & everyone, he'll spontaneously sprout a Sutteresque sack & start dominating.
- DrChristianTroy

Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 21 @ 5:52 PM ET
I already tried to explain it to him
- Codes1087

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 21 @ 5:52 PM ET
I'm really curious as to how you come up with these speculative remarks.

Bold #1 Both him and JB both stated in the media that family was the issue, so where is there a spin?
Bold#2 Unless you are going to contradict Carol, JB and other reports, he was offered substantial money for 2 years. He will be making less in the KHL according to the blog.
Bold#3 You are throwing out names with no insight, or intimate knowledge of what happened and who were the individuals involved. Don's source in the canucks room is pretty solid (I know who it is), but not once was it reported that the Sedins hated him or any of those guys, for all we know maybe Stecher and Beiga, Sbisa hated him because he sounded like an entitled spoiled child and the Sedins could have been trying to help him...

So I'm curious, how do you come to these conclusions?

- Makita


Right, I have no idea who specifically dislikes Tryamkin. Players don't like his sense of entitlement and think he is soft. I doubt that was the primary reason for him leaving though. Kid was homesick and wants to play more.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 21 @ 5:53 PM ET
So what's your thoughts on the romours about Goldobin and Mrs Tryamkin, I see it's gaining traction...
- Makita

It's fact and not rumor if you know how to read between the lines
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Apr 21 @ 5:54 PM ET
I'm really curious as to how you come up with these speculative remarks.

Bold #1 Both him and JB both stated in the media that family was the issue, so where is there a spin?
Bold#2 Unless you are going to contradict Carol, JB and other reports, he was offered substantial money for 2 years. He will be making less in the KHL according to the blog.
Bold#3 You are throwing out names with no insight, or intimate knowledge of what happened and who were the individuals involved. Don's source in the canucks room is pretty solid (I know who it is), but not once was it reported that the Sedins hated him or any of those guys, for all we know maybe Stecher and Beiga, Sbisa hated him because he sounded like an entitled spoiled child and the Sedins could have been trying to help him...

So I'm curious, how do you come to these conclusions?

- Makita



2 blogs ago he was denying that Tryamkin was even leaving because he questioned the sources. Now he's an expert on all the conspiracy theories.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 21 @ 5:54 PM ET
Tryamkin left because Scneider slept with Tryamkins new wife in response to Kesler sleeping with Schneider's wife. Tryamkin got mad and farted on Goldobin's pillow, thus Goldobin was out with an "illness" AKA "pink eye"
- Codes1087

Kesler slept with one of my ex-girlfriends as well only one that I know of
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 21 @ 5:57 PM ET
2 blogs ago he was denying that Tryamkin was even leaving because he questioned the sources. Now he's an expert on all the conspiracy theories.
- golfingsince

I am at peace now.
I don't read any of his weirdness nor do I read the responses to his weirdness.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Apr 21 @ 5:58 PM ET
Yes KHL is an option that works for some for different reasons. Money and opportunity were the chief motivators. I think it's true for Tree he just had family reasons too. It sounds better as well. It can work out later. The pile on him not being tough enough, entitled or mentally strong to work through it; are just frustration bombs. The guy had a choice end of his contract. Nucks didn't tip it for him.

It sucks for Nuck fans because he brought a lot of things for us in these dark times. As you have said. A more mature, family settled Tree may come back. The Nucks will have to be in better standing and pay more. Plus see a top 4 role to make it happen though.

- Nuck4U


Deep down, only Tryamkin knows his reasons for leaving. We can deduce all we want based on his actions, the timing of his decisions and the situation surrounding him, but ultimately both sides have said the right things here so that the bridge isnt burnt
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 21 @ 6:02 PM ET

- Nuck4U


I did though?
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 21 @ 6:05 PM ET
I'm really curious as to how you come up with these speculative remarks.

Bold #1 Both him and JB both stated in the media that family was the issue, so where is there a spin?
Bold#2 Unless you are going to contradict Carol, JB and other reports, he was offered substantial money for 2 years. He will be making less in the KHL according to the blog.
Bold#3 You are throwing out names with no insight, or intimate knowledge of what happened and who were the individuals involved. Don's source in the canucks room is pretty solid (I know who it is), but not once was it reported that the Sedins hated him or any of those guys, for all we know maybe Stecher and Beiga, Sbisa hated him because he sounded like an entitled spoiled child and the Sedins could have been trying to help him...

So I'm curious, how do you come to these conclusions?

- Makita


I just saw this.

#1) I changed that language before I saw your post. My take is more clear on family playing a role. Which I have always stated.

#2) Subtantial is a spin word. On two years both Manvanfan and I broke that down yesterday what comps were. You think they offered him a core value contract? TL claim he was core. As for Russian deal we don't have clarification of one or the other here. Speculation is that either money was close or more. If it was close then all the other factors like family, role etc didn't tip the scales for Nucks. Thus back to deduction that more significant money and term here could have.

#3) I don't know who it was and what was stated. Maybe you can enlighten us. Though my point was if true then it's on leadership and vets for atmosphere. That's their job. Right? Not that they created it. But if that is true allowing for it is: a)not a good sign of inclusion or b) not good leadership or control of the lockeroom.


Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 21 @ 6:12 PM ET
I did though?
- Codes1087



You got into this accept he's gone tirade. You said it's only family. I said sure that plays a big role. But there is more to this then that. I also included Olympics. Plus if that was the issue then the offer made wasn't enough to tip the scales in favor of staying. It's okay. I accept the family stuff. I didn't discount it. It's just not the full picture. He's gone for now. My specualtion remains only, what will it take to bring him back, the next time he has a contract choice.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 21 @ 6:14 PM ET
Deep down, only Tryamkin knows his reasons for leaving. We can deduce all we want based on his actions, the timing of his decisions and the situation surrounding him, but ultimately both sides have said the right things here so that the bridge isnt burnt
- WhiteLie



Yes. Agree. Why I think they kept out the other stuff. The factors that will get him back. Plus his family reasons subsiding.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 21 @ 6:17 PM ET
2 blogs ago he was denying that Tryamkin was even leaving because he questioned the sources. Now he's an expert on all the conspiracy theories.
- golfingsince


keep making up things and twisting the truth in your troll attempts.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 21 @ 6:19 PM ET
You got into this accept he's gone tirade. You said it's only family. I said sure that plays a big role. But there is more to this then that. I also included Olympics. Plus if that was the issue then the offer made wasn't enough to tip the scales in favor of staying. It's okay. I accept the family stuff. I didn't discount it. It's just not the full picture. He's gone for now. My specualtion remains only, what will it take to bring him back, the next time he has a contract choice.
- Nuck4U


I told you not to "read between invisible lines". You have nothing more than information presented to you from both the Russian team and Jim Benning, both of which are OFFICIAL STATEMENTS. Everything else doesn't matter, as it isn't confirmed. I merely just said that you can't be jumping to "he left cause of money, he left cause of Willy, he left cause of Lidster" as none of that has ever been presented as fact. Apart from what has been released as official statements, nothing else matters, he is gone, and it shouldn't be speculated about any more..
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 21 @ 6:23 PM ET
This http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...hls-14-non-playoff-teams/

And Dahlen signing, are both more interesting than Tree ever resigning/leaving speculative bullpoop. You guys are just the dog barking at the wind at this point.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 21 @ 6:24 PM ET
I told you not to "read between invisible lines". You have nothing more than information presented to you from both the Russian team and Jim Benning, both of which are OFFICIAL STATEMENTS. Everything else doesn't matter, as it isn't confirmed. I merely just said that you can't be jumping to "he left cause of money, he left cause of Willy, he left cause of Lidster" as none of that has ever been presented as fact. Apart from what has been released as official statements, nothing else matters, he is gone, and it shouldn't be speculated about any more..
- Codes1087

you'll be banging your head on your desk more than him if you keep this up
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 21 @ 6:25 PM ET
This http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...hls-14-non-playoff-teams/

And Dahlen signing, are both more interesting than Tree ever resigning/leaving speculative bullpoop. You guys are just the dog barking at the wind at this point.

- neem55

I look forward to them rushing into the line up.
Love that they are adding 'you don't have to play in Utica' clauses.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 21 @ 6:26 PM ET
you'll be banging your head on your desk more than him if you keep this up
- neem55

Just don't read his gibberish, it's very liberating!
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