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storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Apr 25 @ 11:04 AM ET
You want a 1st for a 4th and take back an extra 2 million? Plus you're then giving them someone Van has to play against.
- manvanfan


if LA wants to rid itself of a bad contract. Why would we give back a 2nd? mov cup less than 1 rd and take on multiple years of gabby? no thanks.

Only something id look at if it was 2018. As someone else mentioned. but even then. no thanks. too much term left.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 25 @ 11:04 AM ET
I can't disagree with your opinion, I just haven't seen a team do it yet. I saw Ari move up 4 spots for 1 year on Dat's.
Ari got a 11th OA pick for a 2nd and 3rd in different years.

Hossa and Gaborik are still serviceable players.

During googling just realized that Connor Carrick and Zach Hyman were both traded for. I thought they were drafted by Toronto.

Toronto only has 7 drafted players on their team this year. 5 of them were top 10 picks.

- manvanfan


Hossa is a serviceable player on a NMC clause.
Gaborik was once a serviceable player, who is often hurt or H-scratched. Datsyuk only had 1 year left on his contract when he was traded as well didn't he?
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Apr 25 @ 11:04 AM ET
So anybody willing to entertain the idea of taking on 1 bad contract for the season? I have a couple idea's for you! Man i'm a nice guy.

Okay so just to recap. Dave Bolland and Lawson Crouse for a 3rd and 2nd in the next season. Crouse was the 11th overall pick. Dave Bolland has 3 years left on his contract.

Pavel traded to Ari for 16th pick for the 20th. 1 year left on contract.

So onto my options.
Option 1
Marion Gaborik. 4 years left at 4.85. LA 1st and Gaborik for Van's 2nd. A move up of almost 20 spots for Van.
Back to back 20 point injuried riddled seasons for Gaborik.

Option 2
Marian Hossa. 4 Years left at 5.275. Hossa and Chi 1st and 5th for Van's 2nd
Hossa around the 40 point mark the past 2 seasons.

- manvanfan



Hossa will retire with the Hawks, please go back to Be a GM Mode and stop destroying our salary.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 25 @ 11:05 AM ET


Not that it really matters, this team will be awful next season.

- Marwood

No way man...with Foote and Juolevi and Boeser dressing every night we are set. Plus a bounce back year from Eriksson...MAGMA Chappoo on the 4th line...Edler Tanev in the 1-2 slot...
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Apr 25 @ 11:05 AM ET


Not that it really matters, this team will be awful next season.

- Marwood


Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 25 @ 11:06 AM ET
Everyone wants the Canucks to develop young players yet understand we are still going to be bad for the next 2-3 years (when I say bad I mean bottom 5-10 bad) and yet people are still mad that Green is going to be HC as if it actually matters lol
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Apr 25 @ 11:07 AM ET
No way man...with Foote and Juolevi and Boeser and Darlene dressing every night we are set. Plus a bounce back year from Eriksson...MAGMA Chappoo on the 4th line...Edler Tanev in the 1-2 slot...
- LordHumungous


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storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Apr 25 @ 11:11 AM ET
random note:

Botch was just talking burr on 1040. So i youtubed his 1st nhl goal. Bieksa was wearing #25
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 25 @ 11:12 AM ET
Hossa is a serviceable player on a NMC clause.
Gaborik was once a serviceable player, who is often hurt or H-scratched. Datsyuk only had 1 year left on his contract when he was traded as well didn't he?

- Codes1087

Yeah so 4 spots 1 year.
Arizona taking (11OA Crouse) for the 2nd would mean moving up 27 spots but they had to add a 3rd in this season. Bolland being a completely unusable player. Bolland had 3 years left at 5.5.

Gaborik at 4.875 has 4 more years. So not adding in a 3rd, moving up 20 some spots.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 25 @ 11:13 AM ET
Green's the new coach as per Bob Mackenzie
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BREAKING: Vancouver Canucks close to finalizing deal with Travis Green to be their new head coach (via @TSNBobMcKenzie) #TSNHockey

- onesmallleap


BFD
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Apr 25 @ 11:13 AM ET
Everyone wants the Canucks to develop young players yet understand we are still going to be bad for the next 2-3 years (when I say bad I mean bottom 5-10 bad) and yet people are still mad that Green is going to be HC as if it actually matters lol
- Codes1087


I don't care who the coach is as much as I don't want to see it become a carousel.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 25 @ 11:15 AM ET
Hossa will retire with the Hawks, please go back to Be a GM Mode and stop destroying our salary.
- Crazybagoham

What do you purpose we do when 14 million comes off for the Sedin's? Sign John Tavares because he's going to come to a losing team?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 25 @ 11:16 AM ET
I don't care who the coach is as much as I don't want to see it become a carousel.
- golfingsince


I think Green is honestly a short term coach anyway. Until we start to put together a respectable roster and the Sedins/Edler are gone, this team won't change much. If he brings a bit more excitement to this team, and deploys the kids more and the Sedins less, its a win by my books, even if we lose lol.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 25 @ 11:17 AM ET
What do you purpose we do when 14 million comes off for the Sedin's? Sign John Tavares because he's going to come to a losing team?
- manvanfan


to be fair, he has more incentive to sign in VAN than he does on long island lol. The Arena is absolute garbage, their owner/GM is an idiot. I get the respect he has for the organization, but could you blame if he chose to sign elsewhere?
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Apr 25 @ 11:20 AM ET
I think Green is honestly a short term coach anyway. Until we start to put together a respectable roster and the Sedins/Edler are gone, this team won't change much. If he brings a bit more excitement to this team, and deploys the kids more and the Sedins less, its a win by my books, even if we lose lol.
- Codes1087


yep. best case, he grows with this team. if not, well we don't wanna win for a few more years anyway. I'm happy with this.

allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Apr 25 @ 11:26 AM ET
So anybody willing to entertain the idea of taking on 1 bad contract for the season? I have a couple idea's for you! Man i'm a nice guy.

Okay so just to recap. Dave Bolland and Lawson Crouse for a 3rd and 2nd in the next season. Crouse was the 11th overall pick. Dave Bolland has 3 years left on his contract.

Pavel traded to Ari for 16th pick for the 20th. 1 year left on contract.

So onto my options.
Option 1
Marion Gaborik. 4 years left at 4.85. LA 1st and Gaborik for Van's 2nd. A move up of almost 20 spots for Van.
Back to back 20 point injuried riddled seasons for Gaborik.

Option 2
Marian Hossa. 4 Years left at 5.275. Hossa and Chi 1st and 5th for Van's 2nd
Hossa around the 40 point mark the past 2 seasons.

- manvanfan


Nice out the box thinking! I'd take Gaborik with LA's higher draft position and if they don't want to give up a 2nd it would have to be a good prospect in their system.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Apr 25 @ 11:26 AM ET
I don't care who the coach is as much as I don't want to see it become a carousel.
- golfingsince


Not based on Green's ability, but I have a hunch we will see another coach before the team sees the playoffs
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Apr 25 @ 11:27 AM ET
Green's the new coach as per Bob Mackenzie
More
BREAKING: Vancouver Canucks close to finalizing deal with Travis Green to be their new head coach (via @TSNBobMcKenzie) #TSNHockey

- onesmallleap

Called it
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 25 @ 11:28 AM ET
Not based on Green's ability, but I have a hunch we will see another coach before the team sees the playoffs
- WhiteLie


I think you are exactly right. I don't think he is being brought in to take this team into the playoffs, yet that will be the exact words that will spew from Benning and Linden.
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Apr 25 @ 11:28 AM ET
I don't care who the coach is as much as I don't want to see it become a carousel.
- golfingsince

WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Apr 25 @ 11:28 AM ET
to be fair, he has more incentive to sign in VAN than he does on long island lol. The Arena is absolute garbage, their owner/GM is an idiot. I get the respect he has for the organization, but could you blame if he chose to sign elsewhere?
- Codes1087


They were submitting arena plans around Belmont as of a couple weeks ago. They will get a new arena soon enough, I think he stays there
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 25 @ 11:30 AM ET
to be fair, he has more incentive to sign in VAN than he does on long island lol. The Arena is absolute garbage, their owner/GM is an idiot. I get the respect he has for the organization, but could you blame if he chose to sign elsewhere?
- Codes1087

Elsewhere yes.... Van. I doubt it.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 25 @ 11:31 AM ET
correction this team will be exciting to watch learn and grow
- onesmallleap

Another step backwards sure is exciting.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Apr 25 @ 11:31 AM ET
I think you are exactly right. I don't think he is being brought in to take this team into the playoffs, yet that will be the exact words that will spew from Benning and Linden.
- Codes1087


Probably a 3 year deal where they can him after 2 more losing seasons
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 25 @ 11:35 AM ET
Probably a 3 year deal where they can him after 2 more losing seasons
- WhiteLie

That way the new GM & president can bring in their own head coach.
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