ONe year?! Ease off the meds
- neem55

It was a joke ...

I don't think Green has developed anyone other than Sven.
They hired another AHL coach with zero NHL coaching experience.
They did not interview one other candidate.
It was a PR reaction to Tryamkin bailing.
- Marwood

If it was a PR reaction to Tryamkin bailing wouldn't they have hired Crawford? They asked Kruger and he told them to (frank) off. Beyond Kruger, green was the guy they like. I just don't understand the common spin on here that this was about PR. Green has been Lindens guy for 4 years.

I think my (and possibly others) issue with the coaching hire, is not the coach they hired but the process surrounding it:

The firing felt like a reaction to outside forces/media, as reports from Burrows/Hansen post-trade and Horvat all indicated the players all supported and believed in Willie heading into a mean-nothing season.

The replacement search seemed hokey from the beginning by not cleaning out the entire staff. Either fire everyone or just fire Willie and let the replacement decide the fate of the remaining staff...

Reports came out that Green would not coach AHL next year, he'd be NHL or Europe (on top of previous reports that said he would not take an NHL assistant job)

We didnt see any reports of requesting permission to talk to any other experienced coaches that were recently fired

There was also no reports of the Canucks having any interest in any other candidates, including some top assistants (except for the longshot of asking an EPL President to come coach)



I dont hate the hire, it will probably be decent to watch, and I definitely know the Canucks probably do not have the luxury of picking whichever candidate they want given their current situation. It just continues to be a puzzling series of decisions by the management/owner group running the team that is leaving a poor taste in my mouth
- WhiteLie

Spot on.

Green only had Sven for 15 games.
- Codes1087

There you have it, Green sucks!!

I think my (and possibly others) issue with the coaching hire, is not the coach they hired but the process surrounding it:

The firing felt like a reaction to outside forces/media, as reports from Burrows/Hansen post-trade and Horvat all indicated the players all supported and believed in Willie heading into a mean-nothing season.

The replacement search seemed hokey from the beginning by not cleaning out the entire staff. Either fire everyone or just fire Willie and let the replacement decide the fate of the remaining staff...

Reports came out that Green would not coach AHL next year, he'd be NHL or Europe (on top of previous reports that said he would not take an NHL assistant job)

We didnt see any reports of requesting permission to talk to any other experienced coaches that were recently fired

There was also no reports of the Canucks having any interest in any other candidates, including some top assistants (except for the longshot of asking an EPL President to come coach)



I dont hate the hire, it will probably be decent to watch, and I definitely know the Canucks probably do not have the luxury of picking whichever candidate they want given their current situation. It just continues to be a puzzling series of decisions by the management/owner group running the team that is leaving a poor taste in my mouth
- WhiteLie

I'll address this post when I'm in the office

There you have it, Green sucks!!
- Marwood

Gallant would have had Subban and Grenier tearing it up on the Canucks by now

If it was a PR reaction to Tryamkin bailing wouldn't they have hired Crawford? They asked Kruger and he told them to (frank) off. Beyond Kruger, green was the guy they like. I just don't understand the common spin on here that this was about PR. Green has been Lindens guy for 4 years.
- CanuckDon

That makes it worse!!

Gallant would have had Subban and Grenier tearing it up on the Canucks by now
- CanuckDon

I doubt it.

Perspective is a funny thing. On one hand canuck fans start to panic because cap space means they are not able to sign their current players. Some canuck fans take it very personality, almost like a snub.

Other fan bases find cap space a real positive.
- bloatedmosquito

Cap space is valuable anytime ...you can sign players that can be traded for assets, you can sign players that help with a rebuild...Vancouver is in a good situation as they will have a lot of money coming off the books and even if they are terrible for a while it's still a nice place to live so players will take that into consideration

If it was a PR reaction to Tryamkin bailing wouldn't they have hired Crawford? They asked Kruger and he told them to (frank) off. Beyond Kruger, green was the guy they like. I just don't understand the common spin on here that this was about PR. Green has been Lindens guy for 4 years.
- CanuckDon

I dont think it was a PR thing, but I do think that they were worried about losing Green, which is fine. In a short time he has been interviewing for other NHL jobs which obviously is a sign of his abilities. I dont even care that he has zero NHL experience, I would have just liked for them to consider all their options and make a strong, educated decision.

Optics just seem like this is another fluid/reactionary decision like "oh well we have sucked for a few years so now when we say 'we want to be competitive', we just mean we dont want to be blown out in games, not playoffs"

I'll address this post when I'm in the office

- CanuckDon

Its 8:30?!

Dont bother responding to anything regarding firing Willie though. I get it, and its over with. I only brought it up as step 1 to a bunch of odd decisions along what should've been a very straight-forward process

Its 8:30?!

Dont bother responding to anything regarding firing Willie though. I get it, and its over with. I only brought it up as step 1 to a bunch of odd decisions along what should've been a very straight-forward process
- WhiteLie

I'm hung over

There you have it, Green sucks!!
- Marwood

Funny thing I looked at today. Green in Portland had quite a few good players. Lots drafted, but almost all our only fringe NHlers now. Only player under him to be good would be Seth Jones who he only had for 1 season. Then Sven baertschi.

He really hasn't developed anyone in his entire coaching career.

Funny thing I looked at today. Green in Portland had quite a few good players. Lots drafted, but almost all our only fringe NHlers now. Only player under him to be good would be Seth Jones who he only had for 1 season. Then Sven baertschi.

He really hasn't developed anyone in his entire coaching career.
- manvanfan

So you're saying he got a bunch of his players to overachieve in WHL, get drafted, and then be exposed in the NHL as not quite good enough?

If you trade Tanev for a first round pick you use that to get Foote.

That repoert is BS. He has been scouted by everyone and they agree he is going to be a good NHL Dman
- VANTEL

Exactly what we need to be looking at...in some ways it's more important than our top 5 pick in this draft. It can be done. Hell, move both Tanev AND Edler to get to the draft position to get Foote.

Funny thing I looked at today. Green in Portland had quite a few good players. Lots drafted, but almost all our only fringe NHlers now. Only player under him to be good would be Seth Jones who he only had for 1 season. Then Sven baertschi.

He really hasn't developed anyone in his entire coaching career.
- manvanfan

Sssshhh, don't tell Don or Brooks, Green is the Messiah.

So you're saying he got a bunch of his players to overachieve in WHL, get drafted, and then be exposed in the NHL as not quite good enough?
- YeOldTimer

More or less yeah. He's like WD, a good CHL coach. A coach that depends on good vets that know how to play.

Exactly what we need to be looking at...in some ways it's more important than our top 5 pick in this draft. It can be done. Hell, move both Tanev AND Edler to get to the draft position to get Foote.
- LordHumungous

Keep Tanev and Edler for this season to ensure the tank. Trade them at the deadline. Pick 10 in this draft will be as good as pick 25 in the next draft.

Funny thing I looked at today. Green in Portland had quite a few good players. Lots drafted, but almost all our only fringe NHlers now. Only player under him to be good would be Seth Jones who he only had for 1 season. Then Sven baertschi.

He really hasn't developed anyone in his entire coaching career.
- manvanfan

Sometimes the rosters don't necessarily work in the coaches favor no matter what level you coach.

Green has been praised for his work with Zalweski,Labate,Virtanen,Archibald,Grenier, Subban,Pedan Demko to name a few.

Sure many will never be long term NHL'ers but still not the point. Players are showing some pretty great improvements under Green in a 2-4 year period..and that's a good sign. Focusing on just 'fringe NHL'ers' that came up under Green is a tad unfair at this point.

One thing that will benefit Green is his vast amount of NHL experience as a player and I believe this can translate to the room and even the country club members. We haven't had a coach with that much playing experience for a long time I think. Willing to give it a shot and for right now a better and wiser option that a high dollar so called 'playoff' coach.

I think my (and possibly others) issue with the coaching hire, is not the coach they hired but the process surrounding it:

The firing felt like a reaction to outside forces/media, as reports from Burrows/Hansen post-trade and Horvat all indicated the players all supported and believed in Willie heading into a mean-nothing season.

The replacement search seemed hokey from the beginning by not cleaning out the entire staff. Either fire everyone or just fire Willie and let the replacement decide the fate of the remaining staff...

Reports came out that Green would not coach AHL next year, he'd be NHL or Europe (on top of previous reports that said he would not take an NHL assistant job)

We didnt see any reports of requesting permission to talk to any other experienced coaches that were recently fired

There was also no reports of the Canucks having any interest in any other candidates, including some top assistants (except for the longshot of asking an EPL President to come coach)



I dont hate the hire, it will probably be decent to watch, and I definitely know the Canucks probably do not have the luxury of picking whichever candidate they want given their current situation. It just continues to be a puzzling series of decisions by the management/owner group running the team that is leaving a poor taste in my mouth
- WhiteLie

Jarvis wasn't hired at the same time as Willie. If you didn't know that Green wasn't going to be the coach than you haven't been paying attention. They kept a veteran coach (Benning's guy) around to work with Green. Also, Florida wanted to speak with Green so they were about to lose him. Why risk losing your guy so you can appease the fans by doing an exhaustive search? It's stupid and generally not how these things play out in real life.

Yesterday I found a very interesting job opportunity internally at my company. I thought about formally applying but that process takes a considerable amount of time. Instead, I emailed the hiring officer a related question to try and figure out if I am the individual they are looking for. To the surprise of no one, they already know who will be hired. Posting the position publicly is merely a required formality. It would be a waste of my time and theirs to interview myself or other candidates. Benning knows who is available and who isn't. He doesn't need to sit down with Dineen and ask him what he would do to the PP. waste of time.

Funny thing I looked at today. Green in Portland had quite a few good players. Lots drafted, but almost all our only fringe NHlers now. Only player under him to be good would be Seth Jones who he only had for 1 season. Then Sven baertschi.

He really hasn't developed anyone in his entire coaching career.
- manvanfan

that is bs. He developed lots of players in Portland. They had successful junior careers and were high draft picks. Is he still responsible for them after they have been drafted?

Sometimes the rosters don't necessarily work in the coaches favor no matter what level you coach.

Green has been praised for his work with Zalweski,Labate,Virtanen,Archibald,Grenier, Subban,Pedan Demko to name a few.

Sure many will never be long term NHL'ers but still not the point. Players are showing some pretty great improvements under Green in a 2-4 year period..and that's a good sign. Focusing on just 'fringe NHL'ers' that came up under Green is a tad unfair at this point.

One thing that will benefit Green is his vast amount of NHL experience as a player and I believe this can translate to the room and even the country club members. We haven't had a coach with that much playing experience for a long time I think. Willing to give it a shot and for right now a better and wiser option that a high dollar so called 'playoff' coach.
- LordHumungous

Expectations for anything and everything to do with this team should be pretty low for the foreseeable future.

A couple of points to consider though:

1) Coaches who were past players that made their living as grinders often tend to be more offense and skill oriented when afforded that luxury.

2) Most coaches who are trying to build a resume to ensure a long career will make sure they can be seen as capable of running different types of teams. Not just defensive, or high-tempo offense. The ability to adapt your systems to the players on your roster to achieve the highest possible success is critical.


There's still a small chance the hockey may not be as boring to watch as many are predicting.

Keep Tanev and Edler for this season to ensure the tank. Trade them at the deadline. Pick 10 in this draft will be as good as pick 25 in the next draft.
- manvanfan

Solid take, you're a decent poster.

Pick 5 is like pick 15 I a decent draft year, I know everyone is slobbering on Footes jock and taking up some off the higher picks but outside of the top 2 there isn't really any great depth. Half decent top 5 but the drop off is steep.

Trading tanev for a pick between 12 and 20 would be like teasing him for a high second next year, why bother.

Sssshhh, don't tell Don or Brooks, Green is the Messiah.
- Marwood

He absolutely is not. He is a smart coach that apparently works well with young players. We will suck the next couple of years so why does it matter? The only thing that matters is our prospects develop properly. You wanted a veteran coach and the hilarious thing is Benning would have been roasted if he did that. "what an idiot he hired a veteran to work with the sedins why can't he focus on the youth."

That is exactly how hiring a veteran would have played out

So you're saying he got a bunch of his players to overachieve in WHL, get drafted, and then be exposed in the NHL as not quite good enough?
- YeOldTimer