Who cares if the bad decisions are coming from management or ownership?!? We still end up with an embarassing roster either way...
- stringerbell

They've bribed him with hot dogs.
- A_SteamingLombardi

free pastries and hot dogs for a year

Who cares if the bad decisions are coming from management or ownership?!? We still end up with an embarassing roster either way...
- stringerbell

Apparently ownership has completely backed off player personnel decisions. Isn't that a positive?

Ray Ferraro was a teammate of Green's on the Isles. He said basically Green experienced all aspects of being a player. He was a lazy skilled player. He turned into a hardworking grit player. He knows how to relate and reach players. In coaching he's innovative. He's demanding but in the right way to not lose a guy. You need to earn ice time. He knows how to coach up a player and not stifle them or cast them aside. Like he will give a player chances to learn from mistakes. If he doesn't get it after all the teaching then he'll move on. Will coach a game that pushes the pace and has an offensive element.

If any of Ray's take is true or works out then Green is good for development of this team. I don't know if Nucks had any realistic alternatives. I have reservations with the inexperience. That he may be no different then WD and will overplay hardworkers over talent and give vets too much respect.

But Green was groomed to break into the NHL. Guess no better time then the present. Expectations are low anyway. So he can't do any worse. If he does better and works out. Then Management is applauded. Green grows with the team to the next level. If he sputters and fails to progress the team there is no real damage. After a few more drafts of talent Nucks bring in an established guy to take new core of talent to playoff contention. Win win either way to go with Green now.

Apparently ownership has completely backed off player personnel decisions. Isn't that a positive?
- CanuckDon

Yes but he's left it up to Linden and Benning with senior advising from Stan Smyl.

Who are you and what have you done with our friend Hefty?
- CanuckDon

They had him at rebuild. The rest is all

Ray Ferraro was a teammate of Green's on the Isles. He said basically Green experienced all aspects of being a player. He was a lazy skilled player. He turned into a hardworking grit player. He knows how to relate and reach players. In coaching he's innovative. He's demanding but in the right way to not lose a guy. You need to earn ice time. He knows how to coach up a player and not stifle them or cast them aside. Like he will give a player chances to learn from mistakes. If he doesn't get it then he'll move on. Will coach a game that pushes the pace and has an offensive element.

If any of Ray's take is true or works out then Green is good for development of this team. I don't know if Nucks had any realistic alternatives. I have reservations with the inexperience. That he may be no different then WD and will overplay hardworkers over talent and give vets too much respect.

But Green was groomed to break into the NHL. Guess no better time then the present. Expectations are low anyway. So he can't do any worse. If he does better and works out. Then Management is applauded. Green grows with the team to the next level. If he sputters and fails to progress the team there is no real damage. After a few more drafts of talent Nucks bring in an established guy to take new core of talent to playoff contention. Win win either way to go with Green now.
- Nuck4U

My only concern with Green is that he sounds way too much like Kirk Muller did.

Yes but he's left it up to Linden and Benning with senior advising from Stan Smyl.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Didn't you like managment two months ago?

Ray Ferraro was a teammate of Green's on the Isles. He said basically Green experienced all aspects of being a player. He was a lazy skilled player. He turned into a hardworking grit player. He knows how to relate and reach players. In coaching he's innovative. He's demanding but in the right way to not lose a guy. You need to earn ice time. He knows how to coach up a player and not stifle them or cast them aside. Like he will give a player chances to learn from mistakes. If he doesn't get it then he'll move on. Will coach a game that pushes the pace and has an offensive element.

If any of Ray's take is true or works out then Green is good for development of this team. I don't know if Nucks had any realistic alternatives. I have reservations with the inexperience. That he may be no different then WD and will overplay hardworkers over talent and give vets too much respect.

But Green was groomed to break into the NHL. Guess no better time then the present. Expectations are low anyway. So he can't do any worse. If he does better and works out. Then Management is applauded. Green grows with the team to the next level. If he sputters and fails to progress the team there is no real damage. After a few more drafts of talent Nucks bring in an established guy to take new core of talent to playoff contention. Win win either way to go with Green now.
- Nuck4U

Good post

My only concern with Green is that he sounds way too much like Kirk Muller did.
- BINGO!

He comes off as more intelligent then Muller and a better communicator. So he's got that to separate him from that failure.

He comes off as more intelligent then Muller and a better communicator. So he's got that to separate him from that failure.
- Nuck4U

One can hope. Kirk was a moron.

Hey, they banned my alt for being an alt.

Hey, they banned my alt for being an alt.
- bloatedmosquito

Hefty PMed Makita about it

My only concern with Green is that he sounds way too much like Kirk Muller did.
- BINGO!

No, your main concern should be listening to Ray Ferraro's opinion.

Hefty PMed Makita about it
- CanuckDon

But it's kind of like arresting the gun for killing someone.

Ray Ferraro was a teammate of Green's on the Isles. He said basically Green experienced all aspects of being a player. He was a lazy skilled player. He turned into a hardworking grit player. He knows how to relate and reach players. In coaching he's innovative. He's demanding but in the right way to not lose a guy. You need to earn ice time. He knows how to coach up a player and not stifle them or cast them aside. Like he will give a player chances to learn from mistakes. If he doesn't get after all the teaching then he'll move on. Will coach a game that pushes the pace and has an offensive element.

If any of Ray's take is true or works out then Green is good for development of this team. I don't know if Nucks had any realistic alternatives. I have reservations with the inexperience. That he may be no different then WD and will overplay hardworkers over talent and give vets too much respect.

But Green was groomed to break into the NHL. Guess no better time then the present. Expectations are low anyway. So he can't do any worse. If he does better and works out. Then Management is applauded. Green grows with the team to the next level. If he sputters and fails to progress the team there is no real damage. After a few more drafts of talent Nucks bring in an established guy to take new core of talent to playoff contention. Win win either way to go with Green now.
- Nuck4U

Are you (frank)ing kidding? He could ruin the players. I have no intention of being like the (frank)ing Oilers. McDavid helped turn around the team and a bunch of trades. Too bad all the other coaches sucked too. That's why they went out and got a proven coach. After 10 years.

Hefty PMed Makita about it
- CanuckDon

(frank) SOMEONE PM HIM ABOUT ME. I need a talking too. i'm inconsolable.

Didn't you like managment two months ago?
- CanuckDon

A sunglass salesman and a studderer

Are you (frank)ing kidding? He could ruin the players. I have no intention of being like the (frank)ing Oilers. McDavid helped turn around the team and a bunch of trades. Too bad all the other coaches sucked too. That's why they went out and got a proven coach. After 10 years.
- manvanfan

Well they did have Kreuger, but ditched him for flavour of the month Dallas Eakins

One can hope. Kirk was a moron.
- BINGO!

Nucks have gone through their share of coaches of late: the smart and detached; the a$$hole and defensive shell; the stubbornly stupid but likeable; and now maybe, they will get the well balanced and intelligent. Time will tell. They will need it if they are going to develop this team.

There will be lots of new, mostly young, players added now, and next few years. So the challenge is there. Coach them to identify what the talent can do best and form them into a team that can contend.

Ray Ferraro was a teammate of Green's on the Isles. He said basically Green experienced all aspects of being a player. He was a lazy skilled player. He turned into a hardworking grit player. He knows how to relate and reach players. In coaching he's innovative. He's demanding but in the right way to not lose a guy. You need to earn ice time. He knows how to coach up a player and not stifle them or cast them aside. Like he will give a player chances to learn from mistakes. If he doesn't get after all the teaching then he'll move on. Will coach a game that pushes the pace and has an offensive element.

If any of Ray's take is true or works out then Green is good for development of this team. I don't know if Nucks had any realistic alternatives. I have reservations with the inexperience. That he may be no different then WD and will overplay hardworkers over talent and give vets too much respect.

But Green was groomed to break into the NHL. Guess no better time then the present. Expectations are low anyway. So he can't do any worse. If he does better and works out. Then Management is applauded. Green grows with the team to the next level. If he sputters and fails to progress the team there is no real damage. After a few more drafts of talent Nucks bring in an established guy to take new core of talent to playoff contention. Win win either way to go with Green now.
- Nuck4U

Interesting, but I put no credence into a person's behavior as a former player turned coach, GM, etc.

When I watched Ron Hextall play, I didn't think "now there's someone who would make a serviceable GM one day."

Are you (frank)ing kidding? He could ruin the players. I have no intention of being like the (frank)ing Oilers. McDavid helped turn around the team and a bunch of trades. Too bad all the other coaches sucked too. That's why they went out and got a proven coach. After 10 years.
- manvanfan

10 years hell we're only at day 58.

Interesting, but I put no credence into a person's behavior as a former player turned coach, GM, etc.

When I watched Ron Hextall play, I didn't think "now there's someone who would make a serviceable GM one day."
- bloatedmosquito

Interesting, but I put no credence into a person's behavior as a former player turned coach, GM, etc.

When I watched Ron Hextall play, I didn't think "now there's someone who would make a serviceable GM one day."
- bloatedmosquito

Got to like a 100 PIM goalie

Well, I was psyched about the Willie D Hiring when It happened. I liked that he was good with young guys and was a fresh new voice in the room.

That didnt work out too well. Although I do think he was set up for failure by management.

Atleast Greene is going into he tenure as coach with zero playoff expectations. which should result in a lot less pressure from management and the market as a whole in general.

By the sounds of it. He's a "Demanding" players coach. Kinda the best of both worlds.

Im looking forward to seeing what he can bring to this club. His familiarity with the players dont hurt either.