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RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Apr 28 @ 6:28 PM ET
Well hes not an offensive guy so the stats im looking at are mainly plus minus and the amount of minutes he can play also hes a healthy player. You dont sign him to help on offense. Hes a stay at home type
- MCGUIZZY


Was all for the idea of Alzner at the beginning of the year but everyone including some in the Caps thread loath him. Not sure what to think anymore tbh.
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Apr 28 @ 6:31 PM ET
Was all for the idea of Alzner at the beginning of the year but everyone including some in the Caps thread loath him. Not sure what to think anymore tbh.
- RhinoFan



Yea im kind of in the same boat. Im just trying to figure why exactly people dont like him. I feel like everything gets amplified in the playoffs so maybe its a little of that. Obviously it depends on what his price tag will be but I wouldnt be surprised if hes still a target out of need
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 28 @ 6:40 PM ET
Yea im kind of in the same boat. Im just trying to figure why exactly people dont like him. I feel like everything gets amplified in the playoffs so maybe its a little of that. Obviously it depends on what his price tag will be but I wouldnt be surprised if hes still a target out of need
- MCGUIZZY

He's just the type of D man that's being phased out of today's top 4's.

Good defensive D men that don't put up points are still good at getting the puck out of the zone rather than just keeping it out of the net.

Vlasic, Tanev, Lindholm are the new age "shut down" D men.

Guys like Alzner are better suited for spot duty on 3rd pairings

RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Apr 28 @ 7:02 PM ET
Yea im kind of in the same boat. Im just trying to figure why exactly people dont like him. I feel like everything gets amplified in the playoffs so maybe its a little of that. Obviously it depends on what his price tag will be but I wouldnt be surprised if hes still a target out of need
- MCGUIZZY


Exactly, price should be the determining factor, but we do need at least one competent addition and there isn't necessarily a lot to choose from on the UFA market.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Apr 28 @ 7:04 PM ET
He's just the type of D man that's being phased out of today's top 4's.

Good defensive D men that don't put up points are still good at getting the puck out of the zone rather than just keeping it out of the net.

Vlasic, Tanev, Lindholm are the new age "shut down" D men.

Guys like Alzner are better suited for spot duty on 3rd pairings

- sbroads24


That's fair. I'd heard he was slow, but on that Caps team I'm sure a fast player can even look slow. If passing is the other struggle then, ironically, I'd pass as well. Still wonder why I heard he was so good a couple years ago and now there's been such a turn around.
fastek
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CA
Joined: 02.19.2016

Apr 28 @ 7:06 PM ET
Me too
Part of the reason I want is to hire a VP of hockey or whatever is Bc the new GM is gonna have his hands full with just making roster moves

It's probably not a 1 man job anymore
And with the timeframe he's walking into,
It'll be tough for us to expect as many moves as we all think we need

- jdfitz77


Don't worry .. Kim Pegula is on it.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Apr 28 @ 7:18 PM ET
Exactly, price should be the determining factor, but we do need at least one competent addition and there isn't necessarily a lot to choose from on the UFA market.
- RhinoFan


High end guys, no, but there are guys like Falk and Fedun in every class which we'll end up signing a couple more of just for depth.
chilliard77
Location: AZ
Joined: 08.23.2011

Apr 28 @ 7:29 PM ET
[TRADE] #Canes Acquire Scott Darling from Chicago → Details: http://n.carhur.com/2qopFEf #Redvolution

3rd round pick for UFA rights. Ouch
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Apr 28 @ 7:30 PM ET
High end guys, no, but there are guys like Falk and Fedun in every class which we'll end up signing a couple more of just for depth.
- Wetbandit1


And that will be good for the organization as we need depth, but I think we are more than a Fedun/Falk away even if Antipin signs and Guhle excels. We need at least one, but probably two day one starters by next season...this will be interesting to say the least.

Who is your favorite UFA d-man? I once thought Alzner, but everyone's reactions have given me pause. I'd take a shot at Stone and/or try to convince Oduya or Daley to sign a one year contract.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
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Apr 28 @ 7:31 PM ET
And that will be good for the organization as we need depth, but I think we are more than a Fedun/Falk away even if Antipin signs and Guhle excels. We need at least one, but probably two day one starters by next season...this will be interesting to say the least.

Who is your favorite UFA d-man? I once thought Alzner, but everyone's reactions have given me pause. I'd take a shot at Stone and/or try to convince Oduya or Daley to sign a one year contract.

- RhinoFan


I don't think favorite is the word I'd use, but I'd take a moderate run at Shattenkirk. The only way we'll get the guy/s we need is via trade.

I'm not 100% sold on him, and I think all this stuff coming out now about him is like the stuff we heard about Okposo that never materialized, like he's not a power forward and he can't stay on his skates.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Apr 28 @ 7:33 PM ET
I don't think favorite is the word I'd use, but I'd take a moderate run at Shattenkirk. The only way we'll get the guy/s we need is via trade.
- Wetbandit1


So there's still a Shattenkirk believer out there, that's good. He's a good player.


And as per usual (bolded) you're probably right.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
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Apr 28 @ 7:34 PM ET
So there's still a Shattenkirk believer out there, that's good. He's a good player.


And as per usual (bolded) you're probably right.

- RhinoFan


Yeah, see my edit.
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Apr 28 @ 7:36 PM ET
Did we just trade up?
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
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Apr 28 @ 7:38 PM ET
Did we just trade up?
- sskkoo1


I was just going to ask if they made their pick yet.
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Apr 28 @ 7:39 PM ET
I was just going to ask if they made their pick yet.
- Wetbandit1



Is this Jones guy a good pick?
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Apr 28 @ 7:41 PM ET
Did we just trade up?
- sskkoo1

Yes . Too 37th
Wetbandit1
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Apr 28 @ 7:41 PM ET
Is this Jones guy a good pick?
- sskkoo1


I heard them talking about him on the radio today. Sounded pretty decent. He looks happy to be picked by the Bills anyway. Unless those were tears of "oh my God, what just happened?"
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 28 @ 7:42 PM ET

RhinoFan
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Today @ 2:47 PM ET     

Obi Meliwonfu today perhaps?
- MCGUIZZY

Think they might make a play for Zay Jones as improbable as that may seem. Just a hunch, heard they really liked him.
Wetbandit1
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Apr 28 @ 7:42 PM ET
Yes . Too 37th
- cabin


What did we give up? The 3rd we got from KC?
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 28 @ 7:42 PM ET
I heard them talking about him on the radio today. Sounded pretty decent. He looks happy to be picked by the Bills anyway. Unless those were tears of "oh my God, what just happened?"
- Wetbandit1

Might know he will play for the pats in a few years
Wetbandit1
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Apr 28 @ 7:43 PM ET
RhinoFan
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Today @ 2:47 PM ET     

Obi Meliwonfu today perhaps?
- MCGUIZZY

Think they might make a play for Zay Jones as improbable as that may seem. Just a hunch, heard they really liked him.

- RhinoFan


Are you patting yourself on the back?
Wetbandit1
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Apr 28 @ 7:43 PM ET
Might know he will play for the pats in a few years
- cabin




That could be it. He's all about the long game.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Apr 28 @ 7:43 PM ET
Are you patting yourself on the back?
- Wetbandit1


I'm only right about once a year...so yes.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 28 @ 7:44 PM ET
What did we give up? The 3rd we got from KC?
- Wetbandit1

Don't know . GR text just said we traded up to 37th and picked Zay Jones . Sorry I don't have more details.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Apr 28 @ 7:44 PM ET


That could be it. He's all about the long game.

- Wetbandit1

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