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WhiteLie
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Apr 28 @ 5:12 PM ET
They can work on different parts of their games in the CHL.
- manvanfan


I agree they can, I just think it is tougher on some players to get in that mentality to do the little things right when the competition is lacks a polished game due to the range of players being 16-20. NCAA/AHL just raises the bar of competition, as they are up against men where the attention to detail is more critical to success than the physical attributes
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 28 @ 5:14 PM ET
Exactly, Nico is all flash and glory. Patrick does the little things to make the players around him better and the team to win.
- manvanfan

don't pretend you are agreeing w me when posting nonsense
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 28 @ 5:22 PM ET
I suppose the next debate, after when we know where Nucks pick, is not just who that should be. But if the pick is NHL ready? Well more kids are showing they are these days. So it comes to opportunity. Some rosters are stacked and others not so much.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 28 @ 5:23 PM ET
don't pretend you are agreeing w me when posting nonsense
- CanuckDon

SORRY
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Apr 28 @ 5:26 PM ET
I suppose the next debate, after when we know where Nucks pick, is not just who that should be. But if the pick is NHL ready? Well more kids are showing they are these days. So it comes to opportunity. Some rosters are stacked and others not so much.
- Nuck4U

If top 2, probably will be NHL ready come training camp. if in the 3-5 slot unless they REALLY impress, send them back to junior. No point rushing prospects in right now.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 28 @ 5:27 PM ET
I agree they can, I just think it is tougher on some players to get in that mentality to do the little things right when the competition is lacks a polished game due to the range of players being 16-20. NCAA/AHL just raises the bar of competition, as they are up against men where the attention to detail is more critical to success than the physical attributes
- WhiteLie



Yes that's true and why so many more limbo players are seen on rosters instead of leaving them in junior. They test how they will do. Assess team needs and then either keep or send back later in the season.
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Apr 28 @ 5:30 PM ET
If top 2, probably will be NHL ready come training camp. if in the 3-5 slot unless they REALLY impress, send them back to junior. No point rushing prospects in right now.
- NorthNuck

You guys will get top 2!
WhiteLie
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Apr 28 @ 5:31 PM ET
Yes that's true and why so many more limbo players are seen on rosters instead of leaving them in junior. They test how they will do. Assess team needs and then either keep or send back later in the season.
- Nuck4U


I think often enough the kids are skilled enough, but lack physical strength or hockey IQ at NHL speed to make the squad. Sometimes they can pick it up quick or adapt to over compensate where they are deficient, but I think thats also why you see some first round picks play all their junior years and start in the AHL before making the jump.

Ideally if we dont get top 2, I want Mittlestadt or Heineken because the first is spending a year in NCAA which is great, and the other has some pro experience already and can go to AHL if they think highly enough of him to bring him over
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Apr 28 @ 5:31 PM ET
Lets just all forget Nico and Nolan.....the hockey gods have never been on the Canucks side....

For me, off the hop, it has to be Mittelstadt or Cody Glass......but whomever we pick, please, for the love of god, stay away from Rasmussen.....
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 28 @ 5:35 PM ET
Lets just all forget Nico and Nolan.....the hockey gods have never been on the Canucks side....

For me, off the hop, it has to be Mittelstadt or Cody Glass......but whomever we pick, please, for the love of god, stay away from Rasmussen.....

- chompsey

I don't know much but I 100% promise we won't draft Rasmussen
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 28 @ 5:36 PM ET
If top 2, probably will be NHL ready come training camp. if in the 3-5 slot unless they REALLY impress, send them back to junior. No point rushing prospects in right now.
- NorthNuck


Well that's the thing. It's a process of assessment. This whole "rush" thing is unknown. Look at the Leafs, Jets and Flames and AZ. They all played their 2016 draft picks all season. The Nucks and CBJ didn't because had stacked players in those positions. Habs gave a cameo to theirs as another example. So buzz words get lost like when "rush" and need meets opportunity and what is "ready" all gets convoluted.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 28 @ 5:39 PM ET
boninos emergence in pittsberg shows how on his previous 2 teams coaches can bring you down
or since the trade can make you a better player.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 28 @ 5:40 PM ET
I think often enough the kids are skilled enough, but lack physical strength or hockey IQ at NHL speed to make the squad. Sometimes they can pick it up quick or adapt to over compensate where they are deficient, but I think thats also why you see some first round picks play all their junior years and start in the AHL before making the jump.

Ideally if we dont get top 2, I want Mittlestadt or Heineken because the first is spending a year in NCAA which is great, and the other has some pro experience already and can go to AHL if they think highly enough of him to bring him over

- WhiteLie


Yes that's all key. Works for me on other picks. One more day and we know how to narrow the debate.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 28 @ 5:43 PM ET
boninos emergence in pittsberg shows how on his previous 2 teams coaches can bring you down
or since the trade can make you a better player.

- SMBDragon


holy Christ man we get it, you don't like Willy.
Bonino can't flipping skate. He has always been a beneficiary of his linemates. In PIT he gets to play with Malkin, Kessel, Hornqvist. He played with Higgins in Vancouver for the majority of his time here. You have been beating that Willy drum for soo long now, and even after he is gone, it's all we hear from you. He's gone, move on.

As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Apr 28 @ 5:43 PM ET
Good things await the Canucks tomorrow.

DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Apr 28 @ 5:45 PM ET
holy Christ man we get it, you don't like Willy.
Bonino can't flipping skate. He has always been a beneficiary of his linemates. In PIT he gets to play with Malkin, Kessel, Hornqvist. He played with Higgins in Vancouver for the majority of his time here. You have been beating that Willy drum for soo long now, and even after he is gone, it's all we hear from you. He's gone, move on.

- Codes1087


HEY. PHRASING.
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Apr 28 @ 5:45 PM ET
Good things await the Canucks tomorrow.
- As_I_See_It

I think so too. 1st or 2nd
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 28 @ 5:47 PM ET
HEY. PHRASING.
- DrChristianTroy


Can't fix, site is poopy
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 28 @ 5:47 PM ET
holy Christ man we get it, you don't like Willy.
Bonino can't flipping skate. He has always been a beneficiary of his linemates. In PIT he gets to play with Malkin, Kessel, Hornqvist. He played with Higgins in Vancouver for the majority of his time here. You have been beating that Willy drum for soo long now, and even after he is gone, it's all we hear from you. He's gone, move on.

- Codes1087

no no, I talk about other stuff.
It was more about bonino of an example how ANY coach can bring you down on make you better. It was a shot at B Boudrou as well. Pat on the back for sullivan and the pens vets
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 28 @ 5:48 PM ET
HEY. PHRASING.
- DrChristianTroy

WhiteLie
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Apr 28 @ 5:48 PM ET
HEY. PHRASING.
- DrChristianTroy



DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
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Apr 28 @ 5:50 PM ET


- WhiteLie


Thanks, I really need to start giffing.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Apr 28 @ 5:53 PM ET


Well that's the thing. It's a process of assessment. This whole "rush" thing is unknown. Look at the Leafs, Jets and Flames and AZ. They all played their 2016 draft picks all season. The Nucks and CBJ didn't because had stacked players in those positions. Habs gave a cameo to theirs as another example. So buzz words get lost like when "rush" and need meets opportunity and what is "ready" all gets convoluted.

- Nuck4U

The safe play would be to send them back to junior, and avoid the possible risk of bringing them in too soon. Jets and Flames had better established vet cores than the Canucks to help the young guys along, we just traded 2 of the guys on the team who would best fit the role of teaching. In the leafs case they had some very talented players each at different points of their development, but there was enough sheer talent in the group that they could lean on each other and grow together over the year.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 28 @ 5:57 PM ET
I was just reading an article on Patrick, Hischier, Mittelstadt, Liljegren and Vilardi on a website. I thought it was NHL.com but now I can't find it anymore. Everything I already knew about the players except for one thing that I have not read in an article before.

They mentioned that Mittelstadt is viewed as a playmaker. I have yet to see any highlights to suggest that he is a playmaker. Seen most compare him to Tyler Seguin. I wouldn't call him a playmaker either.
WhiteLie
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Apr 28 @ 6:03 PM ET
Thanks, I really need to start giffing.
- DrChristianTroy



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