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Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

May 2 @ 1:35 AM ET
If JB got Demko in 2nd
Tree in 3rd (i know he's gonzo)
BB in mid 20s of 1st
Gaudette in 5th

I have faith in him finding late gems. having extra scratch tix (picks) increases his odds of hitting. load up. can't wait till 2018.

for all the JB bashers, he could end up being a pretty valuable gm to this organization.

- storm88



Agree he has found NHL worthy talent. Big difference from MG era. He traded one D prospect away from WD pressure. Same mistake on Vey. But hey that request won't be made anymore.

Looking forward to seeing his blue chippers break in with BB, OJ and Demko. JV well we'll see. Still time. Don't forget there is Lockwood and some of these free agent propects too that might work out. Eyes on MacEwen for example.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

May 2 @ 1:51 AM ET
Tryamkin....




3 years

- Nucker101


Yes sad. But we don't know if KHL contract has NHL out clause. Plus contract salary, not bonus structure, can be bought out. Has happened before with big money contracts from NHL.

So if he doesn't want to come to Nucks again. Nucks can get fair trade value in deal where they allow his agent to get Tree to agree to terms as part of trade.

In that case, I say Russian cultural access NYC opens up Devils, Isles and Rangers. Teams that would like him and could offer big money to lure him back to NHL.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

May 2 @ 2:32 AM ET
you did see he was 5'8 right? We already already have a 5'8 Dman that cant crack the nhl
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 2 @ 3:01 AM ET

Shoulda drafted the kid the Avs just signed



DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

May 2 @ 3:16 AM ET
Shoulda drafted the kid the Avs just signed




- Nucker101


I love 1 on 1 hip checks

(... but that first clip, he should've gone shoulder to shoulder)
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

May 2 @ 3:21 AM ET
If JB got Demko in 2nd
Tree in 3rd (i know he's gonzo)
BB in mid 20s of 1st
Gaudette in 5th

I have faith in him finding late gems. having extra scratch tix (picks) increases his odds of hitting. load up. can't wait till 2018.

for all the JB bashers, he could end up being a pretty valuable gm to this organization.

- storm88

I have to agree here
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 2 @ 9:20 AM ET
That's bs bud. Pure bs. Boeser, Demko and Juolevi are blue chippers
- CanuckDon

I happen to disagree with you, I like their progression but I hardly think it's an absolute certainty they're going to be top-end players. To me a bluechip prospect is a kid who can't miss. Still some question marks with all three of them in my mind but that hardly means I think they're poop.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 2 @ 9:27 AM ET
it sucks they basically changed the rules right when the canucks were hitting the bottom. Even TO last year 20% was really lucky. I think having last place at 25% atleast is a good start. What made it worse (just this year) was Vegas. %s had to be adjusted get them at 10% as well.

But just think of the canucks 3 years from now (hopefully). hopefully pushing for a PO spot, yet still available to get a top 3. we wouldn't complain then.

did i make sense? I'm a little wiped. ready for the wrapper.

- storm88

I happen to like the current setup, it forces organizations to employ managers and scouts who can actually build through several different means. Such as being good throughout the entire draft, not just with a high first pick. To win a few trades. To sell veterans for a good youthful return.

Now more than ever you need to have multiple sources to find youth and have a continual push from below, something the Canucks haven't had in many years because of poor management.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 2 @ 9:58 AM ET
Tryamkin stays in Russia, BFD.

Players that check off the calendar date so they can fly home don't belong on a young team trying to develop a new identity. Drive him to the airport.

That also applies to un-drafted players that screw NHL teams by staying in school and becoming UFA's.

If JB has any intentions of drafting Mittlestadt, i'm sure he will do his homework. If there's the slightest doubt, move on.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

May 2 @ 10:07 AM ET
I happen to like the current setup, it forces organizations to employ managers and scouts who can actually build through several different means. Such as being good throughout the entire draft, not just with a high first pick. To win a few trades. To sell veterans for a good youthful return.

Now more than ever you need to have multiple sources to find youth and have a continual push from below, something the Canucks haven't had in many years because of poor management.

- LeftCoaster


The system is weighted against those who need it the most, the way the draft lottery is now, teams that don't need the help are getting stronger and the teams that need it the most are being locked out of the top picks. That isn't the way it should be, have the 1OA be via lottery, but once you win the 1OA pick, you are locked out of it for 10 years (which is roughly the amount of time you would keep a franchise player). That in my mind would be fairer and still force teams to have better management.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 2 @ 10:17 AM ET
The system is weighted against those who need it the most, the way the draft lottery is now, teams that don't need the help are getting stronger and the teams that need it the most are being locked out of the top picks. That isn't the way it should be, have the 1OA be via lottery, but once you win the 1OA pick, you are locked out of it for 10 years (which is roughly the amount of time you would keep a franchise player). That in my mind would be fairer and still force teams to have better management.
- DariusKnight


Well it looks like we're going to be stocking up on top 5 picks then!
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

May 2 @ 10:19 AM ET
Tryamkin stays in Russia, BFD.

Players that check off the calendar date so they can fly home don't belong on a young team trying to develop a new identity. Drive him to the airport.

That also applies to un-drafted players that screw NHL teams by staying in school and becoming UFA's.

If JB has any intentions of drafting Mittlestadt, i'm sure he will do his homework. If there's the slightest doubt, move on.

- VanHockeyGuy


Very true, will probably be a talking point at the combine when he gets interviewed.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 2 @ 10:23 AM ET
Very true, will probably be a talking point at the combine when he gets interviewed.
- phyllee


The ironic thing is he can give assurances and change his mind any time he likes.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 2 @ 10:34 AM ET
The system is weighted against those who need it the most, the way the draft lottery is now, teams that don't need the help are getting stronger and the teams that need it the most are being locked out of the top picks. That isn't the way it should be, have the 1OA be via lottery, but once you win the 1OA pick, you are locked out of it for 10 years (which is roughly the amount of time you would keep a franchise player). That in my mind would be fairer and still force teams to have better management.
- DariusKnight

I guess it really depends on your interpretation of what "teams who need it most" is. New Jersey certainly imo needed it most as they're a terrible franchise, they got the first overall pick, how is that not fair in you mind?

Colorado needs it most, because they've mismanaged their franchise, so they got the 4th overall pick, how in your mind are they not getting a benefit from this system? They get to pick before almost every other team.

Vancouver needs it most, again because of mismanagement, and they got the 5th overall pick, so they pick before 26 other teams. How are they not benefiting from the system?

Dallas had four more wins than Vancouver who finished second last, why should they be treated much different? They were in fact treated different because they only had 8% odds of winning a top three position, which they fluked out and did.

Essentially what you're saying is the franchises that've been mismanaged should be given an out card.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 2 @ 10:37 AM ET
I guess it really depends on your interpretation of what "teams who need it most" is. New Jersey certainly imo needed it most as they're a terrible franchise, they got the first overall pick, how is that not fair in you mind?

Colorado needs it most, because they've mismanaged their franchise, so they got the 4th overall pick, how in your mind are they not getting a benefit from this system? They get to pick before almost every other team.

Vancouver needs it most, again because of mismanagement, and they got the 5th overall pick, so they pick before 26 other teams. How are they not benefiting from the system?

Dallas had four more wins than Vancouver who finished second last, why should they be treated much different? They were in fact treated different because they only had 8% odds of winning a top three position, which they fluked out and did.

Essentially what your saying is the franchises that've been mismanaged should be given an out card.

- LeftCoaster


I was upset for about 2 seconds.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 2 @ 10:52 AM ET
I was upset for about 2 seconds.
- VanHockeyGuy

They still got a great spot to pick one of the best kids in the world, to me it's seems pretty fair. His suggestion of getting one 1st overall pick and then being shutout for ten years is silly, not every year is blessed with a McDavid, Matthews, Tavares, Stamkos, some are Ryan Nuggent Hopkins, Yakupov, Patrick Stephan, etc. kind of years.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 2 @ 10:58 AM ET
I guess it really depends on your interpretation of what "teams who need it most" is. New Jersey certainly imo needed it most as they're a terrible franchise, they got the first overall pick, how is that not fair in you mind?

Colorado needs it most, because they've mismanaged their franchise, so they got the 4th overall pick, how in your mind are they not getting a benefit from this system? They get to pick before almost every other team.

Vancouver needs it most, again because of mismanagement, and they got the 5th overall pick, so they pick before 26 other teams. How are they not benefiting from the system?

Dallas had four more wins than Vancouver who finished second last, why should they be treated much different? They were in fact treated different because they only had 8% odds of winning a top three position, which they fluked out and did.

Essentially what your saying is the franchises that've been mismanaged should be given an out card.

- LeftCoaster


Good morning Lefty. You may want to proofread YOUR last sentence in this comment. YOU'RE doing this to test us though, I assume.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 2 @ 10:59 AM ET
Good morning Lefty. You may want to proofread YOUR last sentence in this comment. YOU'RE doing this to test us though, assume.
- Reubenkincade

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storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

May 2 @ 10:59 AM ET
I was upset for about 2 seconds.
- VanHockeyGuy


i left the house right after. went to brewers row. had a great night. we all expected it. odds are we were going to be 4/5 anyway. plus i won my bet on picking them 5th.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

May 2 @ 11:01 AM ET
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- LeftCoaster

LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 2 @ 11:04 AM ET

- storm88

I was upset for about 2 seconds
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

May 2 @ 11:04 AM ET
They still have a great spot to pick one of the best kids in the world, to me it seems pretty fair. His suggestion of getting one 1st overall pick and than being shutout for ten years is silly, not every year is blessed with a McDavid, Matthews, Tavares, Stamkos, some are Ryan Nuggent Hopkins, Yakupov, Stephan, etc. kind of years.
- LeftCoaster


I've got too give it to you. The grammer and spelling above this sentence is now impeccable. Quit testing us and proofread more, please.

storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

May 2 @ 11:05 AM ET
I've got too give it to you. The grammer and spelling above this sentence is now impeccable. Quit testing us and proofread more, please.


- Pres.cup


I'd like to see more semi colon's. Less run-on sentences.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 2 @ 11:05 AM ET
Nick Saban's new salary for coaching Alabama, what a crock of poop!! The players can't even accept a free lunch but they can afford to pay the coach an average of 8.7 million dollars a year.

2017: $11.15M
2018: $7.15M
2019: $7.55M
2020: $7.55M
2021: $10.35M
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 2 @ 11:07 AM ET
I've got too give it to you. The grammer and spelling above this sentence is now impeccable. Quit testing us and proofread more, please.


- Pres.cup

I see what you did there.
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