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thechezman
New Jersey Devils
Location: 9083103373, NJ
Joined: 04.24.2016

May 3 @ 3:38 PM ET
NJD have never ad a #1 pick - (Colorado did once - ramage )

You USE this oick..

Either wil be great.it looks like fit.

Nico looks more explosive and better speed and creativity. The way todays NHL is going )
Patrick looks looks more well rounded . Kirk Muller type.

We need both size and Speed. But we also b[need some dynamic players.
Hall is vert dynamic
Kovi ( Hoeing ) is very dynamic.

thats it!!!

Palmieri -is a bull of a worker.
Zacha Also
Zajac is good defensively
Wood is the tasmanian Devil.

DO we go with Kirk MUller or Johnie Goudeau ???

Today my pick is NICO.

Hall -Zacha -Kovi
Henrique - Nico -Palmieri
Quenneville - Zajac - Mcleod
Wood -Blandisi -Noesen
-----
Speers - Bennett - Coleman





Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

May 3 @ 3:40 PM ET
ftfy
- YuenglingJagr



Thanks!

I also screw up 'your' and 'you're'. Only when I type and never when I speak.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

May 3 @ 3:51 PM ET
It's actually not a terrible offer. I mean, it's not enough obviously. But it's not the worst offer in exchange for a #1 overall pick I've seen.
- tomburton99


The franchise's has had exactly one first overall pick in it's history going back to Kansas City. In 1979 the Colorado Rockies took Rob Ramage first overall. Regardless of getting fair value I don't want to see this pick traded.

In 1977 we took Barry Beck 2nd overall and I think that's the last guy we traded to the Rangers.... SHOOT THE PUCK BARRY!
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 3 @ 4:33 PM ET
The franchise's has had exactly one first overall pick in it's history going back to Kansas City. In 1979 the Colorado Rockies took Rob Ramage first overall. Regardless of getting fair value I don't want to see this pick traded.

In 1977 we took Barry Beck 2nd overall and I think that's the last guy we traded to the Rangers.... SHOOT THE PUCK BARRY!

- Queenie_5_hole

I never said or thought the Devils should trade it. But in terms of hypothetical internet forum trades offer for as first overall, that was far from the worst. I knew about the 1979 tidbit, mentioned on Todd's previous blog.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

May 3 @ 4:44 PM ET
I will fight you Todd
- Mordecai


Let's tag team

Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

May 3 @ 4:45 PM ET
I'd be curious about the comparison of tapes from last year and not this one. I'm a little worried about him having a year.

I still want Patrick.

- willschulme


Nice profile pic, friend.
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

May 3 @ 4:52 PM ET
Nice profile pic, friend.
- Mononoke

<3
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 3 @ 4:52 PM ET
NJD have never ad a #1 pick - (Colorado did once - ramage )

You USE this oick..

Either wil be great.it looks like fit.

Nico looks more explosive and better speed and creativity. The way todays NHL is going )
Patrick looks looks more well rounded . Kirk Muller type.

We need both size and Speed. But we also need some dynamic players.
Hall is vert dynamic
Kovi ( Hoeing ) is very dynamic.

thats it!!!

Palmieri -is a bull of a worker.
Zacha Also
Zajac is good defensively
Wood is the tasmanian Devil.

DO we go with Kirk MUller or Johnie Goudeau ???

Today my pick is NICO.

Hall -Zacha -Kovi
Henrique - Nico -Palmieri
Quenneville - Zajac - Mcleod
Wood -Blandisi -Noesen
-----
Speers - Bennett - Coleman

- thechezman


I'm a big Johnie Goudeau fan.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 3 @ 4:53 PM ET
Any ideas who could be a good pick up in the 2nd round? Defense or forward?
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

May 3 @ 4:55 PM ET
It's actually not a terrible offer. I mean, it's not enough obviously. But it's not the worst offer in exchange for a #1 overall pick I've seen.
- tomburton99


It's not fair value. The first overall pick has roughly a 55-60% chance of turning into a first liner, and though we know who Patrick and Hischier are, they very well have first line ceiling. Fowler is slotted at first pairing but doesn't really belong there, so you're getting 2 roster players and a 10% chance of landing a first liner.

To make the value fair, if Anaheim got a hold of a top ten pick (around 7) and then traded just Fowler and that pick for the first overall... that's a fair starting point.

That top ten pick, especially this year, has a reasonable chance of being a high ceiling player but later rather than sooner, and that's what you give the 3-4 d-man for.
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

May 3 @ 4:56 PM ET
Any ideas who could be a good pick up in the 2nd round? Defense or forward?
- dmarsden2988

Oh man defense for sure. I hear Jokiharju or however you spell it is pretty good
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

May 3 @ 4:59 PM ET
I'm a big Johnie Goudeau fan.
- jmatchett383

Names are a social construct
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 3 @ 5:05 PM ET
It's not fair value. The first overall pick has roughly a 55-60% chance of turning into a first liner, and though we know who Patrick and Hischier are, they very well have first line ceiling. Fowler is slotted at first pairing but doesn't really belong there, so you're getting 2 roster players and a 10% chance of landing a first liner.

To make the value fair, if Anaheim got a hold of a top ten pick (around 7) and then traded just Fowler and that pick for the first overall... that's a fair starting point.

That top ten pick, especially this year, has a reasonable chance of being a high ceiling player but later rather than sooner, and that's what you give the 3-4 d-man for.

- archromat

"I mean, it's not enough obviously"
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 3 @ 5:06 PM ET
Oh man defense for sure. I hear Jokiharju or however you spell it is pretty good
- willschulme



I wanted the Rangers to get him, but yet again they will have reach or miss cause they have like 2 picks this year...yet again.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

May 3 @ 5:06 PM ET
Names are a social construct
- willschulme

willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

May 3 @ 5:09 PM ET

- Mordecai

That's a layered meme you got there
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 3 @ 5:10 PM ET
That's a layered meme you got there
- willschulme

is it a gif or meme?
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

May 3 @ 5:11 PM ET
That's a layered meme you got there
- willschulme

I definitely didn't steal it
SteveJ123
New Jersey Devils
Location: Tedenby over Carlson every single time - David Conte, NJ
Joined: 08.22.2014

May 3 @ 5:11 PM ET
"I mean it's not enough, obviously"
- tomburton99


I love this Amazing how people will read a post and completely forget some of the most important content of the comment.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 3 @ 5:15 PM ET
I love this Amazing how people will read a post and completely forget some of the most important content of the comment.
- SteveJ123

Look around the internet, hell even on past blog on this site and see some hypothetical offers for 1st overall picks. The post in question isn't terrible. The Devils can't afford to pass on Patrick or Hishcier unless they get a haul back. Silvferberg and Fowler are still young enough to be build blocks for a team. The swapping of first rounders is where the deal would die on the floor
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

May 3 @ 5:16 PM ET
is it a gif or meme?
- tomburton99

Memes have evolved, you know. Memes can be gifs. Memes can be videos. Memes can even be music.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 3 @ 5:19 PM ET
Memes have evolved, you know. Memes can be gifs. Memes can be videos. Memes can even be music.
- willschulme

I did not know that, interesting.
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

May 3 @ 5:22 PM ET
It's not fair value. The first overall pick has roughly a 55-60% chance of turning into a first liner, and though we know who Patrick and Hischier are, they very well have first line ceiling. Fowler is slotted at first pairing but doesn't really belong there, so you're getting 2 roster players and a 10% chance of landing a first liner.

To make the value fair, if Anaheim got a hold of a top ten pick (around 7) and then traded just Fowler and that pick for the first overall... that's a fair starting point.

That top ten pick, especially this year, has a reasonable chance of being a high ceiling player but later rather than sooner, and that's what you give the 3-4 d-man for.

- archromat


He lead the Ducks in minutes and the team finished at the top of their div.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 3 @ 5:31 PM ET
He lead the Ducks in minutes and the team finished at the top of their div.
- fry

Yeah but that a little misleading. Ducks blue line is very good with Manson, Theodore, Folwer, Lindholm and Vatanen. Bieksa and Holzer are meh.
ChonDerry
Location: Bedlamton, AB
Joined: 04.06.2016

May 3 @ 6:13 PM ET
Go off the board and take Hugh Jessiman
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